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  • #23002
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    Bill Simmons was ripping James Harden on his podcast today.  Harden has had some mysterious tweets lately that make it seem he’s unhappy in OKC… stuff like "I need a change" and "I felt disrespected today."  While he’s still young, I think this is more than a sophomore slump.

    Simmons suggested trading Harden and Mo Pete for Iguodala.

    I don’t know if this makes sense for either team.  Thunder would get an good offensive player who would help with ball movement and maybe alleviate their stagnant offense.  It’s a big contract though.  But with talent like Durant, OKC is going to have to spend a little bit to surround him with talent. Everyone always says how great of a second option Iggy should be.  I don’t see how this works for the Sixers though.  They get about a 7 mil expiring in Mo Pete and Harden who could still turn into a nice player…. ?

    I don’t ever see OKC really pulling the trigger on a huge trade though.

    I think Simmons also said something like OKC needs Kevin Love too.  Their best trade chip is Jeff Green though and that’s not a need for Minnesota… maybe that’s why it would work!

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  • #431123
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    Funny cuz my friends and I were kicking the Iggy for Harden trade idea around the other day.  Only problem is that it doesn’t fill the Sixers hole at center so is it worth it? 

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  • #431126
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    Funny cuz my friends and I were kicking the Iggy for Harden trade idea around the other day.  Only problem is that it doesn’t fill the Sixers hole at center so is it worth it? 

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  • #431147
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    Not sure if it’ll be worth it. Like apb540 said, we need some depth at center so if that trade included Ibaka or maybe Aldrich and an expiring contract and Harden, I’d consider it but that’s gunna be a lot to give up for the Thunder who need bigs out in the west.

    And Harden would probably tweet he’s needs another change if that trade worked with Lou Williams, Evan Turner, Thad Young, and Noce taking a majority of the minutes

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  • #431150
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    Not sure if it’ll be worth it. Like apb540 said, we need some depth at center so if that trade included Ibaka or maybe Aldrich and an expiring contract and Harden, I’d consider it but that’s gunna be a lot to give up for the Thunder who need bigs out in the west.

    And Harden would probably tweet he’s needs another change if that trade worked with Lou Williams, Evan Turner, Thad Young, and Noce taking a majority of the minutes

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  • #431153
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    Like a Decent Center to play in the post and block some shots…A guy Rumored to be getting traded for Iggy is Chris Kaman, although the Sixers don’t think he’s the Defender they need in Paint…

    A three way Trade that might work is This…

    Iguadola to The Clippers

    Kaman to The Mavericks

    Ty Chandler and 2011 first rounder from Dallas to The Sixers…

    The Clippers may get Hawes as well if they throw in Foye,Butler or Aminu…

    The Clippers need some defense and play making ability with Baron M.I.A and Bledsoe being so raw as a Pg…Iggy can be the Point Forward while they correct this issue at PG…He and Blake would nasty on the fastbreak, and having sharp shooter(we  hope) Eric Gordon to space out the defense The Clippers could be 1 draft away from being a real threat to make the playoffs…Having Jordon and Hawes at the Center wouldn’t be that bad,there’s Kanter in 2011 and Drummond in 2012…

    The Sixers need interior defense and athleticism at the Center spot…That’s the only thing they miss from Sam Dalembert…If Chandler gives you 10/10 with a few blocks for the next 5 years(resigning him for a nice price) then it’s worth it to free up the spot for Turner and Thad…Iggy hurts them with his all around game…He can play Sg/Sf all 48 minutes, where’s the time for Turner and Thad ? ? ? We need a defender more than another versatile Wing.Holiday,Turner,Thad and Brand would benefit from having a Shot blocker behind them in the starting lineup.

    The Mavs and Dirk in particular have wanted Kaman in a Mavs jersey for years…With a deal like this they’d pair two friends and German National Team members(NOT TO MENTION ALL STAR PF AND C) It would be well worth it to Cuban to make a move like this while only losing a rental defender and 1st rounder…Dirk and Kaman would be a potent frontline with Haywood on the bench as that stopper inside…It’s a win/win/win for all teams involved…

    Who says no…Bill Simmons should leave the Trades to the Master

     

     

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  • #431156
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    Like a Decent Center to play in the post and block some shots…A guy Rumored to be getting traded for Iggy is Chris Kaman, although the Sixers don’t think he’s the Defender they need in Paint…

    A three way Trade that might work is This…

    Iguadola to The Clippers

    Kaman to The Mavericks

    Ty Chandler and 2011 first rounder from Dallas to The Sixers…

    The Clippers may get Hawes as well if they throw in Foye,Butler or Aminu…

    The Clippers need some defense and play making ability with Baron M.I.A and Bledsoe being so raw as a Pg…Iggy can be the Point Forward while they correct this issue at PG…He and Blake would nasty on the fastbreak, and having sharp shooter(we  hope) Eric Gordon to space out the defense The Clippers could be 1 draft away from being a real threat to make the playoffs…Having Jordon and Hawes at the Center wouldn’t be that bad,there’s Kanter in 2011 and Drummond in 2012…

    The Sixers need interior defense and athleticism at the Center spot…That’s the only thing they miss from Sam Dalembert…If Chandler gives you 10/10 with a few blocks for the next 5 years(resigning him for a nice price) then it’s worth it to free up the spot for Turner and Thad…Iggy hurts them with his all around game…He can play Sg/Sf all 48 minutes, where’s the time for Turner and Thad ? ? ? We need a defender more than another versatile Wing.Holiday,Turner,Thad and Brand would benefit from having a Shot blocker behind them in the starting lineup.

    The Mavs and Dirk in particular have wanted Kaman in a Mavs jersey for years…With a deal like this they’d pair two friends and German National Team members(NOT TO MENTION ALL STAR PF AND C) It would be well worth it to Cuban to make a move like this while only losing a rental defender and 1st rounder…Dirk and Kaman would be a potent frontline with Haywood on the bench as that stopper inside…It’s a win/win/win for all teams involved…

    Who says no…Bill Simmons should leave the Trades to the Master

     

     

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  • #431161
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    I forgot to add that…If Lou Williams and Iguadola can’t get you a dominate interior defender nothing will…

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  • #431164
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    I forgot to add that…If Lou Williams and Iguadola can’t get you a dominate interior defender nothing will…

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  • #431184
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    I personally would much rather have harden than Chandler and a 2011 pick. esp when it will be a pick from like 26-30. Atleast harden has some potential. Chandler is about as fragil as a wine glass. I like Simmons idea. and the expiring contract is the point of the trade to free up cap room

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  • #431189
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    I personally would much rather have harden than Chandler and a 2011 pick. esp when it will be a pick from like 26-30. Atleast harden has some potential. Chandler is about as fragil as a wine glass. I like Simmons idea. and the expiring contract is the point of the trade to free up cap room

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  • #431255
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    iggy for kaman makes sesne for both teams imo kaman provides the inside threat the sixers are lacking and iggy fills the wing spot the clips are desperate for iggy and griffin as the forwards is very darn good

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  • #431258
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    iggy for kaman makes sesne for both teams imo kaman provides the inside threat the sixers are lacking and iggy fills the wing spot the clips are desperate for iggy and griffin as the forwards is very darn good

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  • #431267
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    That Iguodala idea is as bad as Melo to the Knicks ideas where Landry Fields is involved.

    Seriously, if James Harden started the season any worse, he’d be J.J. Redick.

    People need to catch on with the fact that OKC’s ownership is operating on the cheap, and that there has been plenty of opportunities for them to make a move if they were willing to deal and take on money like in the case of Al Jefferson. They seem content to sit back and be competitive, but aren’t willing to take the step necessary to actually compete for a title.

     

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  • #431270
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    That Iguodala idea is as bad as Melo to the Knicks ideas where Landry Fields is involved.

    Seriously, if James Harden started the season any worse, he’d be J.J. Redick.

    People need to catch on with the fact that OKC’s ownership is operating on the cheap, and that there has been plenty of opportunities for them to make a move if they were willing to deal and take on money like in the case of Al Jefferson. They seem content to sit back and be competitive, but aren’t willing to take the step necessary to actually compete for a title.

     

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  • #431285
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    I hadn’t been paying attention to how Redick has been doing until you made that comment….DAMN.  For someone who’s main role is a perimeter shooter that’s pretty rough.

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  • #431288
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    I hadn’t been paying attention to how Redick has been doing until you made that comment….DAMN.  For someone who’s main role is a perimeter shooter that’s pretty rough.

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  • #431320
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    Add in the fact that when the Magic decided to match the Bulls’ offer on Redick, they willingly decided to spend  more money in salary and tax this year on J.J. than Miami will D-Wade. Sasha Vu 2.0.

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  • #431325
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    Add in the fact that when the Magic decided to match the Bulls’ offer on Redick, they willingly decided to spend  more money in salary and tax this year on J.J. than Miami will D-Wade. Sasha Vu 2.0.

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  • #431324
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    And my weekly tip of the hat to San Antonio…

    When the Spurs need to add shooting, they find Gary Neal while watching Tiago Splitter and sign him for the minimum. Otis Smith ought to tithe three-quarters of his salary to Dwight Howard because he pissed down his leg when Chicago does something stupid like think J.J. Redick is a $20 million player.

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  • #431329
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    And my weekly tip of the hat to San Antonio…

    When the Spurs need to add shooting, they find Gary Neal while watching Tiago Splitter and sign him for the minimum. Otis Smith ought to tithe three-quarters of his salary to Dwight Howard because he pissed down his leg when Chicago does something stupid like think J.J. Redick is a $20 million player.

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  • #431367
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    Yea, I admit Simmons jumped a little too quick on this one.

     

    I wanted OKC to move up and get DeMarcus Cousins or trade for Al Jefferson. I said this whole offseason " What did OKC do to improve this team?"

     

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  • #431370
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    Yea, I admit Simmons jumped a little too quick on this one.

     

    I wanted OKC to move up and get DeMarcus Cousins or trade for Al Jefferson. I said this whole offseason " What did OKC do to improve this team?"

     

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  • #431373
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    Like Get Jefferson in a trade, Beasley for a 2nd round and at least offering a Decent Contract to Chris Bosh or even Brendan Haywood…They have 0 inside game and that’ ‘s a key need for anyteam looking to be successful in the Playoffs…

    I repeat Simmons is an idiot…Why would the Sixers trade their best Trade Chip for Harden(who’s been realy bad this year and plays the same position as Turner) and Mo Pete???

    They can easily get a great defender for Iggy and Williams…so why would we make a trade when it doesn’t give us anything back in terms of Basketball…Also Steffanski has made it clear they are not trading players to clear cap space while helping another team out …They want value for value…Not to take our best player and trade chip so we can maybe sign a guy next year( hello New York)

    Anything can happen in Free Agency and why lose out on a great talent unless it makes you better…every team in the NBA would want Iguadola on their team…including the Sixers…It’s just they know he’ll be the only guy they can trade that gets them what they really need…

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  • #431376
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    Like Get Jefferson in a trade, Beasley for a 2nd round and at least offering a Decent Contract to Chris Bosh or even Brendan Haywood…They have 0 inside game and that’ ‘s a key need for anyteam looking to be successful in the Playoffs…

    I repeat Simmons is an idiot…Why would the Sixers trade their best Trade Chip for Harden(who’s been realy bad this year and plays the same position as Turner) and Mo Pete???

    They can easily get a great defender for Iggy and Williams…so why would we make a trade when it doesn’t give us anything back in terms of Basketball…Also Steffanski has made it clear they are not trading players to clear cap space while helping another team out …They want value for value…Not to take our best player and trade chip so we can maybe sign a guy next year( hello New York)

    Anything can happen in Free Agency and why lose out on a great talent unless it makes you better…every team in the NBA would want Iguadola on their team…including the Sixers…It’s just they know he’ll be the only guy they can trade that gets them what they really need…

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  • #431377
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    Any shot you can take at NY regardless your below us. LOL

     

    Like I said: Iguadala is not that great. There’s rumors he’s a potential trade partner for Loul Deng in a 1 for 1 deal. Let’s not act like he’s a monster piece.

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  • #431380
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    Any shot you can take at NY regardless your below us. LOL

     

    Like I said: Iguadala is not that great. There’s rumors he’s a potential trade partner for Loul Deng in a 1 for 1 deal. Let’s not act like he’s a monster piece.

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  • #431387
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    Has been overrated for awhile now. He doesn;t bring that much back via a trade. Screcrow seems to put him in the same class as Carmelo, which is not the case.

    I have been watching Igodala since high school, and have always been a fan, but he is not the monster championship piece you seem to describe.

    As a Bulls fan, i’d rather have Deng.

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  • #431390
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    Has been overrated for awhile now. He doesn;t bring that much back via a trade. Screcrow seems to put him in the same class as Carmelo, which is not the case.

    I have been watching Igodala since high school, and have always been a fan, but he is not the monster championship piece you seem to describe.

    As a Bulls fan, i’d rather have Deng.

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  • #431391
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    The whole point of trading Iguodala would be more than likely to not only try to gain some depth, but it more than likely would be a way for Evan Turner to step in at SG. Why would you than trade for an SG? Harden has potential as a scorer, true enough, but as much as Andre Iguodala may be overpaid, he is still a solid SG due to his defensive capabilities and the fact that he is maybe one of the better athletes at that position. He also has size for the position as well, he may not be a franchise player, but the guy is not a slouch by any means, and he should still have trade value. I think the Thunder would totally dominate that trade, as much potential as Harden may have, he more than likely will not equal Iguodala, especially not in the situation he would face in Philly. Iguodala is maybe not the defender that Thabo Sefolosha is, but he is a much better scoring option, and would more than likely fit in extremely well on OKC, but that has to be almost a dream scenario. How would the salaries work out? They definitely would have to get rid of one of their "Big 3", and it more than likely would be Jeff Green. While that might not be the worst thing in the world, they are so thin up front.

    I honestly think athletes need to stop using twitter as a way to bitch about their situation. It just blows things totally out of proportion. I guess they just want their name in the news, but I highly doubt that James Harden bitching about this will help his cause. I do not see him being traded, at least not now, and I just hopes he works harder than ever rather than just continues pouting over twitter. When you use twitter to complain, it just makes it seem like you are more focused on that rather than on the many other things you should be focused on. Also, as Bill Simmons showed us, it leads to really stupid trade ideas.

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  • #431394
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    The whole point of trading Iguodala would be more than likely to not only try to gain some depth, but it more than likely would be a way for Evan Turner to step in at SG. Why would you than trade for an SG? Harden has potential as a scorer, true enough, but as much as Andre Iguodala may be overpaid, he is still a solid SG due to his defensive capabilities and the fact that he is maybe one of the better athletes at that position. He also has size for the position as well, he may not be a franchise player, but the guy is not a slouch by any means, and he should still have trade value. I think the Thunder would totally dominate that trade, as much potential as Harden may have, he more than likely will not equal Iguodala, especially not in the situation he would face in Philly. Iguodala is maybe not the defender that Thabo Sefolosha is, but he is a much better scoring option, and would more than likely fit in extremely well on OKC, but that has to be almost a dream scenario. How would the salaries work out? They definitely would have to get rid of one of their "Big 3", and it more than likely would be Jeff Green. While that might not be the worst thing in the world, they are so thin up front.

    I honestly think athletes need to stop using twitter as a way to bitch about their situation. It just blows things totally out of proportion. I guess they just want their name in the news, but I highly doubt that James Harden bitching about this will help his cause. I do not see him being traded, at least not now, and I just hopes he works harder than ever rather than just continues pouting over twitter. When you use twitter to complain, it just makes it seem like you are more focused on that rather than on the many other things you should be focused on. Also, as Bill Simmons showed us, it leads to really stupid trade ideas.

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  • #431405
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    and the Thunder would love to get a player like Iggy, as would every team in the NBA…versatile, top tier athlete and defender for a whinny little biocth…who wouldn’t make that deal…

    People that under value Iguadola need to read up a little bit…The Suns wanted to trade Amare for Iggy and the Nuggets are praying Melo’s camp signs off on a trade that would send Melo to Philly for Iggy and Thad…

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  • #431408
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    and the Thunder would love to get a player like Iggy, as would every team in the NBA…versatile, top tier athlete and defender for a whinny little biocth…who wouldn’t make that deal…

    People that under value Iguadola need to read up a little bit…The Suns wanted to trade Amare for Iggy and the Nuggets are praying Melo’s camp signs off on a trade that would send Melo to Philly for Iggy and Thad…

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  • #431425
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    The Key in both of those deals: Iggy wasn’t the main player in that deal.

     

    He has value, just not superstar/high level value

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  • #431428
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    The Key in both of those deals: Iggy wasn’t the main player in that deal.

     

    He has value, just not superstar/high level value

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  • #431429
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    But It doesn’t change the Fact the Suns and Nuggets would have loved to add Iggy instead of some Egomaniac’s like Melo and Amare…

    And If Iggy can get you Amare or Melo, he can get you a Top notch Center like Kaman (although he ain’t the defender we need)

     

    So by all means your wrong and Iggy can be a great trade chip that can land you Elite Talent …

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  • #431432
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    But It doesn’t change the Fact the Suns and Nuggets would have loved to add Iggy instead of some Egomaniac’s like Melo and Amare…

    And If Iggy can get you Amare or Melo, he can get you a Top notch Center like Kaman (although he ain’t the defender we need)

     

    So by all means your wrong and Iggy can be a great trade chip that can land you Elite Talent …

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  • #431431
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    ???

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  • #431500
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    mikeyvthedon
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     Dude, everything you said I agreed with in my previous post. I too think Bill Simmons knows, Jack $hitsworthy. That trade would totally suck for the 76ers. Iguodala would be a huge get for the Thunder, he would fit in perfectly. So, totally on your side, think the 76ers can do a lot better.

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  • #431521
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    mikeyvthedon
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     Dude, everything you said I agreed with in my previous post. I too think Bill Simmons knows, Jack $hitsworthy. That trade would totally suck for the 76ers. Iguodala would be a huge get for the Thunder, he would fit in perfectly. So, totally on your side, think the 76ers can do a lot better.

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