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  • #38372
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    shipargos
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     I have seen plenty of Royce Highlights, i havent seen him in person, but his overall understanding of the game seems beyond charts, he rebounds, drives and has pretty handles with pretty amazing passing ability.

    He is strong as an ox (truly commands respect in this area), he is not elite explosive but has some deceptive athleticism, also, something that is not shown in the chart are his pretty refined post skills,  being his jumpshot and FTs his only glaring weaknesses- (and some flying terror as i have heard)

     

    Comparison: i am not seeing too much Boris Diaw in him, so i think he would project as something like small al jeferson meets poor mans LBJ

    Rookie line 8ppg 5.5 rpg 3.5 assists in 22 minutes.

     

    Worst case 

    6.5ppg 4 rpg 2.5 assists. (25%) (worst Diaw)

    Probable case

    12.5 ppg  8 rpg 5.5 assists. ( 70% happening) (better Boris Diaw)

    Maximum potential (5% happening) 

    18.5ppg 9 rpg 6.5 assists (poor mans LBJ) average to slightly above average defender.

    Want to hear about your comparinsons?

    (Sorry for my bad english i am fan from El Salvador)

     

     

     

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  • #660179
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    Wahoo757
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    I’m not the biggest Royce White fan, I’ve let that be known on several occasions. I don’t know if NBA teams are going to trust him enough to be their primary distributor when he had a pretty low 1.3 AST/TO ratio in college. In your ‘probable’ sccenario, he and LeBron would be the only non-point guards to average 8 boards and 5.5 assists. I can see him sticking in the NBA though if he gets over his anxiety issues (which he reportedly has) and maybe having a statline of 9-6-3, nothing spectular as your stat lines or comparison as ‘poor man’s LBJ’ would suggest.

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  • #660184
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    juves4783
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    i think he compares very well with former cyclone marcus fizer.  fizer was a 6-8 265 lb small forward/power forward.  he was a good scorer and decent rebounder but struggled as a defender.  i think royce is very similar in that he is a guy that can score in multiple ways, but he is a much better rebounder and ball handler.  i don’t see white’s ball handling being much help in the nba.  as iowa st., the guard play was bad at times so they had white bring the ball up against pressure.  that won’t be the case in the nba.

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  • #660185
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    river09
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     I think his numbers will resemble Andre Iguodala’s in a best case scenario. Has a similar style of game, he’s not as explosive but he’s so strong I think he could make it work quite well. Even in the NBA I don’t know of many PF’s that would be comfortable guarding him off the dribble with his quickness and he’s so strong not many SF’s will be able to keep him away from the rim. If he adds a consistent long range jumper he could be close to unstoppable. He reminds me of a Derrick Williams who passes instead of taking a jumpshot… 

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  • #660207
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    “I’m not the biggest Royce White fan, I’ve let that be known on several occasions. I don’t know if NBA teams are going to trust him enough to be their primary distributor when he had a pretty low 1.3 AST/TO ratio in college. In your ‘probable’ sccenario, he and LeBron would be the only non-point guards to average 8 boards and 5.5 assists. I can see him sticking in the NBA though if he gets over his anxiety issues (which he reportedly has) and maybe having a statline of 9-6-3, nothing spectular as your stat lines or comparison as ‘poor man’s LBJ’ would suggest.”

    If you stack his performance up against what other non-points who basically played the role of primary faciliator like Lamar Odom, Evan Turner, and Greg Monroe, his production is very much on par with them. Monroe and Odom have never had problems with their on-court (the new mandatory Odom caveat after this year) decision making. Turner has not had a problem as a creator so much as a perimeter shooter and unlike the other two fail to offer the physical versatility to play inside to make himself even more valuable.

    Nobody can compare to LeBron. While White was used in that fashion at Iowa State, it does not make him LeBron. Kemba Walker was used like Allen Iverson at UConn, but it didn’t make him Allen Iverson. White is going to be a very good pro, and I’d argue barring injury he will be one of the best pros in this draft, but there are All-Star players in the NBA who don’t deserve to be compared to LeBron because he is so incredibly freakish and unique.

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  • #660215
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    Wahoo757
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    I’m not going to debate you on the fact that Royce White will not be a creator/distributor in the pros, but the production which shipargos suggested seems over the top to me, which I was trying to suggest in my previous post. The players whom you already mentioned, Greg Monroe and Evan Turner did a lot of distributing and college and to some extent in the pros, but neither have yet to eclipse 3 Assists a game and I don’t foresee that 5.5 Assist number which shipargos threw out there. Now Lamar Odom did early in his career, but he was a much earlier pick in the draft and was more talented than Royce White so he was given more freedom in his play, thus the high assist numbers. I don’t think Royce White will be given the same amount of freedom Lamar Odom was, and will probably be more in tune with Monroe’s and Turner’s assist numbers of about 3 a game.

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    Raef LaFrentz
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    I agree with the "poor man’s LeBron" comparison barring one thing.. I only agree if the "poor man’s" portion of that sentence means that he is a very very very poor man’s LeBron James.

    Yes, he has court vision, ball-handling, and basketball instincts that no one his size or position should have.. But LeBron has that, and then some. White’s jump shot is nowhere near LeBron’s was at its WORST point. He is not and will never be the athlete LeBron is/was. Basically what I’m saying is that LeBron is better at everything. So yes, he can be a poor man’s LBJ, in a sense.

    However, Royce White does have "flashes" of the savvy LeBron possesses, and he was used in a similar fashion at Iowa State. He’s an effective playmaker, a physically imposing player, and an above average rebounder. I see him being a very underrated player in this draft, and possibly becoming the steal of the 2012 draft.

    Honestly, this guy is really really intriguing to me and I can’t get enough of him. I was pretty upset that they had to face Kentucky so early in the tournament because I wanted to see him play more on the big stage. Can’t wait to see him in the pros either.

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  • #660295
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    Dale Worthington
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    Playmaking version of Prince Paul Millsap.

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    dede21

     Luke Walton is hands down the best comparison you racist pricks

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  • #660437
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    kobyz
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    Dale i agree with you that he’s a combination of Boris Diaw and Paul Millsap, in the sense that he poses the all around skills, passing and ball handling level of Diaw but beside he much more aggresive to score, assertive in the post and better rebounder similar to Millsap.

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