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Best Offensive Player @ Each Position

C - Yao Ming
PF - Dirk Nowitzki
SF - Carmelo Anthony
SG - Kobe Bryant
PG - Steve Nash

Yours? Thoughts?


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LBJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Melo

And CP3 and Nash are even IMO

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LBJ has no perimeter game and

LBJ has no perimeter game and hardly shows his pull-up and post game.

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mmmh... i wouldnt say lbj has

mmmh... i wouldnt say lbj has no perimeter game, but its not development to well.. and i like ur list a lot tounge-out-23... cp3 and nash could be tied as nateoak said. but no way lbj is a better scorer than melo... NO WAY!

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Well since LBJ is the much much better passer

Ball handler, awarness, drivng and finishing ability, a top 2 scorer I'd say hes a better offensive player

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He doesn't flas it as often as he should but...

I'd take Deron Williams at the 1. He's an awesome scorer when he needs to be (see: first round of the playoffs). He also has the ability to post up that so few PG's have these days.

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i'd say melos offensive

i'd say melos offensive awareness is better. now overall awareness, it's got to be LBJ.

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Lebron is a better offensive

Lebron is a better offensive player than Anthony. He might not be as skilled a scorer, but he handles the ball a bit better and is twice as good a passer. Also, Anthony has outscored James only 2 times out of 7 years in the NBA, so while he may be able to score in more ways, he's not as productive most times. Which has to count for something

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KD!

C: Stoudemire
PF:Dirk
SF:Durant
SG:Kobe
PG:Westrbrook or Curry

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carmelo is the better scorer

carmelo is the better scorer than bron... lebron just uses his stregth and getting a full head of steam when slashing

melo has a better first step

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The basis?

I have never gotten the whole "pure scorer" label. Just do not get it. Is it a term used to say how many different moves a player has, or how effectively a player scores the ball? Is it just based on offensive skill set? Like, are you saying that Melo has the best pure jumper and the most offensive ability, which makes him a better "pure scorer" than LeBron or Kevin Durant? Is is due to the fact that most of those players, besides of course Kobe Bryant, are more known for one end of the court? If it is on ability to create offense, and just flat out score the basketball, than I have no idea how LeBron James can not be considered the best offensive player. I mean, the guy flat out scores, at a very efficient rate as well, close to 50 from the field and 78 from the line, than you add his ability to create for others, and their is none better overall. Kobe's offensive skill set is second to none, and he has a degree of difficulty on his made shots that is not even close to matched by another. But, as far as "best offensive player", I would like it defined. Because if your definition has Carmelo Anthony above Kevin Durant and LeBron James at SF, than I am interested to hear why. I think Kevin Durant has the best combination of size and offensive skill set of any 3 right now. But, LeBron, for whatever he is lacking in a consistent mid range game, and you would probably like to see him shoot free throws at a higher percentage, just manages to score and pass with efficiency that has rarely been seen. He is third All-Time in PPG right now and he does so shooting .475 from the field, which is just great efficiency. Is this a way to say who can just get straight buckets at the end of games? Because, if so, I still think as much as Melo has hit some great clutch shots, LeBron's ability to create in those situations is underrated as his failures have been completely magnified as opposed to his successes. So, in my definition of Offensive Player, which is just the flat out ability to create offense, I would keep all the players you mentioned except for possibly Carmelo and Nash. I think that LeBron James is the best offensive player at SF hands down, and that Kevin Durant is his closest competition. Also, while Nash is incredibly efficient offensively, and is the best shooting PG in the league, I would say Deron Williams and Chris Paul have to be up their as far as overall offensive game. But again, I would like to know the basis for this, because otherwise it seems kind of listless and undefined.

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welll... im thinkin more of a

welll... im thinkin more of a scorers point of view than overall offense.. if u want overall offense then its lebron of course, but scorer as iggy 9 said, its carmelo

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He can score in more ways

He can score in more ways than Lebron can, but he has only outscored him 2 times in 7 seasons. To me, Lebron is a better scorer. Anthony just has more versatility as a scorer. You can't be a better scorer than someone and only outscore them 2 times in 7 years.

Also this post is titles "best offensive players". I hope you guys know that there is more to offensive ability than scoring. And Lebron is better offensive all-around than Anthony is, I don't care how much you don't like him. Be real about it

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look at how much lebron

look at how much lebron scores and tell me he aint a top offensive player

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carmelo is obvs. more skilled

carmelo is obvs. more skilled on the perimeter and in the paint than james... but the better slasher is bron, but carmelo is up there too... overall to me carmelo is the better scorer, idc how many times carmelo hasnt outscored bron in his career... lebron like i said is the better offensive player.. better handle, better passer, more versatile, can play SG and PG if needed

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But how is he a better scorer

But how is he a better scorer if he has outscored him only 2 times in 7 years? I don't understand that

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JNixon.. but look at Carmelos

JNixon..

but look at Carmelos team, he's always had good scorers on his team.
Allen Iverson: 25ppg in DEN
Andre Miller: 14ppg in DEN
Chauncey Billups: 18ppg in DEN
J.R. Smith: 15ppg in DEN

He's never really had to score so much.

LeBron had an aging Zydrunas.
This season yeah, he had Williams and for sometime he had Jamison but that's it.

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cuz carmelo scores in more

cuz carmelo scores in more ways

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lebron is just a beastly

lebron is just a beastly athlete going to the basket, and sometimes will get a full head of steam when slashing

carmelo has a better first step imo

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With all of LeBron's lack of variety....

He just seems to be incredibly efficient. When you have the ability to finish at the basket that LeBron does, why not take advantage of it? He seems to at a very high efficiency. That is what I do not understand about the "pure scorer" label. If a guy scores efficiently as far as their possessions in the offensive game, yet they tend to use their strengths rather than a full repertoire, than why should that person not be considered a good offensive player? Now, we all know that guys like Rajon Rondo and Tony Parker score a lot in the paint and maybe do not have very efficient mid range games, which limits their offensive ability in the grand scheme of things, but they both are very efficient offensive players. When you have the ball as much as they do and shoot over 50 percent, that is very impressive. That is why I think Derrick Rose is so amazing, because even with his publicized inconsistent jumper, he still shoots 49% from the field! That is damn good for a PG that has as much offensive responsibility as D-Rose. But as far as flat out creating offense, Parker and Rondo, and definitely Rose, they all get theirs. Parker I still think is the best in the paint scorer at PG, where as I think D-Rose is maybe the best finisher running towards the basket. At flat out creating scoring opportunities for them self, Gilbert Arenas and Baron Davis can be the most flat out difficult to stop as far as total offensive repertoire, though neither of them shoots an incredibly high percentage. So, I just want to know why this list needs to be, considering it has very little bearings over a players overall or actual ranking based on consistency on a game by game basis and how good a player is overall. Melo is smoother than any other SF in the league scoring the ball, he is incredibly difficult to guard and on that basis, he probably has more to offer than any other 3 in the league. But, when Kevin Durant and LeBron James are just straight up abusing players on a game by game basis at a much better rate than Melo, does that really matter? I guess that is why I question him being "The Best Offensive player" at 3.

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I personally believe if you

I personally believe if you put Lebron on Denver he would've averaged at least as much as Anthony, if not more, and I think he would've been more efficient from the field.

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pure scorer to me determines

pure scorer to me determines if a guy can score the easiest

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Scorer = Melo > Lebron

Scorer = Melo > Lebron

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scorers

CN- Yao Ming
PF- Dirk Nowitzki
SF- Kevin Durant
SG- Kobe Bryant
PG- Monta Ellis*

Though some consider Ellis a SG you could put him in at either spot and hes probably the best pure scoring PG in the game

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offense ans scoring are different

lebron is better than melo offensivly because of his passing
but melo is a better scorer imo

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I still don't understand this argument

Carmelo is a better scorer than Lebron because he seems like he could score more? You say that Carmelo is a better scorer even though he consistently scores less points per game, less efficiently than Lebron. In my mind it doesn't matter how diverse his offensive game is if he is less effective. You cannot find a statistic that supports Carmelo being a superior scorer. You're only argument is that he looks smoother doing it.

Obviously Lebron is the better all-around player. But he is also definitively the better scorer, because bottom line: HE SCORES MORE POINTS.

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r u guys really arguing about

r u guys really arguing about this, Lebron>Durant>Melo>Granger. Lebrons stats are undeniable, im a huge melo fan too.

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Im Your Father Look at

Im Your Father

Look at Carmelos team, he's always had good scorers on his team.
Allen Iverson: 25ppg in DEN
Andre Miller: 14ppg in DEN
Chauncey Billups: 18ppg in DEN
J.R. Smith: 15ppg in DEN

He's never really had to score so much.

LeBron had an aging Zydrunas.
This season yeah, he had Williams and for sometime he had Jamison but that's it.

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If Stoudemire's a center,

If Stoudemire's a center, he's the best offensive one.

C. Stoudemire or Yao
PF. Dirk
SF. Lebron
SG. Kobe
PG. Paul

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Ander Miller is a good scorer

Ander Miller is a good scorer lol...

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Toung-out

I see your point, but I think it's hard to call Carmelo a better scorer based on a hypothetical situation where he was surrounded by worse players.

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PG- Derrick Rose SG- Dwyane

PG- Derrick Rose
SG- Dwyane Wade
SF- Kevin Durant
PF- Dirk Nowitzki
C- David Lee

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this is just another

example of "potential" , the adjective that anyone who follows basketball, loves.

carmelo has the potential/skills & could be the best offensive player in the league, but he tends to settle.

along with kobe, dude takes & makes the hardest shots in the league.

can't hate on bron because he knows what can do, and does it in the easiest/efficient way as possible.

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Yeah, LeBron is the best

Yeah, LeBron is the best offensive player out of him, Melo, and KD...And it isn't that close.

pg-Rose/Nash
sg-Kobe/Wade
sf-LeBron
pf-Dirk
C-Yao/Stoudemire

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cpfsfsgpg

Center - Gasol (I love Yao but you gotta play)
PF - Dirk
SF - James ( he does everything - Sorry Haters)
SF - Durrant ( hes so good you have to make room for him )
PG - CP3 ( Williams has a better all around game, but for pure scoring, its gotta be Paul)

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Yao Dirk LeBron Kobe Nash/D.W

Yao
Dirk
LeBron
Kobe
Nash/D.Will/CP3/Rose

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Centre STAT PF Dirk

Centre STAT
PF Dirk Nowitzki
SF Kevin Durant ( based on likely scoring for next few years)
SG Kobe
PG Chris Paul

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