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  • #62148
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    2quick4u
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     so now that curry is having at the moment one of the best regular seasons the game of basketball has ever seen, i was wondering wich is the best REGULAR season by a player in the history of the NBA..i repeat only regular season, i don’t care if that player ended winning the championship or if his team got beat in the 1st round..

    i know a lot people will say that the question is easy and they’ll choose will chamberlain in 1962 when he averaged 50pts/25rb and had that 100 points game BUT just to let you know, chamberlain was NOT the MVP in that season..neither in his second best season in terms of numbers in 1963 when he avg. 45pts/24rb..in 1962 his team "only" won 49 games and in 1963 they only won 31 games and didn’t even make the playoffs..and it’s not that he played the celtics every game..

    something similar happened in the modern basketball when kobe bryant avg. 35pts and had that 81 points game..but again his team won 45 games and he only had a 45% FG with 4.5 ast and 1’8 stl..not great numbers apart from points..wasn’t he named mvp because of the rape scandal or just that his season was not good enough? 

    so i guess it’s not just about numbers..

    the best regular season ever has to be a player that had a huge impact not only on his team(wins and make teammates better) but also an impact on the league(stats,entertainment,excitement,change of rules,dominance,etc) and in the game of basketball(game changer,break paradigms,etc)..

    again, curry is doing great but he still has 59 games to play so let’s not rush..

    so..wich is the best regular season ever played in the league?

     

     

     

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  • #1030692
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     Shaqs 1999-2000 season ranks right up there with any if you ask me.

    29.7 ppg, 13.6 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3 bpg, 57.4 fg%, 30.6 PER

    Led his team to 67 wins and championship

    MVP of the regular season, all-star game and finals

    Hard to top that.

     

     

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    • #1030724
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       ^

      Shaq was sick.

      That’s why I think some people underrate him in all time lists puting 7-12..

      he is top5 for me, because 2000 season has an arguments to be THE BEST individual seasons of all time overall Shaq 1999-2002 was somewhat amazing and ended with 3 rings. and after that still had at least 10 superstar seasons with great stats and team success.

       

       

       

       

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    • #1030859
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      lalaila
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       ^

      Shaq was sick.

      That’s why I think some people underrate him in all time lists puting 7-12..

      he is top5 for me, because 2000 season has an arguments to be THE BEST individual seasons of all time overall Shaq 1999-2002 was somewhat amazing and ended with 3 rings. and after that still had at least 10 superstar seasons with great stats and team success.

       

       

       

       

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  • #1030826
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     Shaqs 1999-2000 season ranks right up there with any if you ask me.

    29.7 ppg, 13.6 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3 bpg, 57.4 fg%, 30.6 PER

    Led his team to 67 wins and championship

    MVP of the regular season, all-star game and finals

    Hard to top that.

     

     

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  • #1030718
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     To update the Ideal Lakers Off Season:

    Kobe quits

    Ben Simmons

    Hassan Whiteside

    Luke Walton

    Then Julius Randle can find a way to fit in.  If not, well, this team belongs to Simmons, Whiteside, Clarkson, and Russell.

    Another option would be to ALSO sign Harrison Barnes to go along with Whiteside.  Barnes and Ben Simmons would be a good forward combo.  He also gives Luke a way to turn the Lakers into a Warriors-type squad.  Randle then becomes a 6th man off the bench.  Either at power forward, or as a small ball center.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1030853
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     To update the Ideal Lakers Off Season:

    Kobe quits

    Ben Simmons

    Hassan Whiteside

    Luke Walton

    Then Julius Randle can find a way to fit in.  If not, well, this team belongs to Simmons, Whiteside, Clarkson, and Russell.

    Another option would be to ALSO sign Harrison Barnes to go along with Whiteside.  Barnes and Ben Simmons would be a good forward combo.  He also gives Luke a way to turn the Lakers into a Warriors-type squad.  Randle then becomes a 6th man off the bench.  Either at power forward, or as a small ball center.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1030728
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     ’85-’86 Larry Bird won his 3rd straight MVP, Celtics won 67 games, and he won Finals MVP, winning a title and Finals MVP for the 2nd time in 3 years.

    He led the league in PER, Defensive Win Shares (2nd time in 3 years), Win Shares, WS/48, Box plus minus, and Value Over Replacement Player

    25.8ppg, 9.8 rebounds, 6.8 assists, 2.0 steals, and .6 blocks per game.

    Led the league in FT% too, and won the 3pt shootout.

    Shot 42% from 3 in the regular season, and 41% from 3 in the playoffs.

    61.5% true shooting in the playoffs.

    What’s nuts is that his next two seasons were both statistically better, but he didn’t win a ring either year.

     

    But how many players in history led the league in both PER (an offensive biased stat) and Defensive Win Shares, while winning MVP and Finals MVP.

    Nobody had dominated both ends of the court like Larry Bird did at that time. 3 straight MVPs, two titles and Finals MVPs in 3 years, and only losing the Finals in ’85 and ’87 to one of the best (Lakers) teams ever assembled.

    In today’s terms, Bird was like Draymond Green on defense and Steph Curry on offense, but a much better passer and rebounder.

     

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/birdla01.html

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #1030746
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       Is this the year he showed up late to the 3 point contest.  Only to walk into the locker room and ask the rest of the competition who was taking 2nd?

      Love that story.

       

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      • #1030756
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         yeah. the first 3 point contest ever, and he already knew he was going to win it.

        Just on top of the world, like Steph must feel right now

         

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      • #1030891
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         yeah. the first 3 point contest ever, and he already knew he was going to win it.

        Just on top of the world, like Steph must feel right now

         

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    • #1030881
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       Is this the year he showed up late to the 3 point contest.  Only to walk into the locker room and ask the rest of the competition who was taking 2nd?

      Love that story.

       

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  • #1030863
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     ’85-’86 Larry Bird won his 3rd straight MVP, Celtics won 67 games, and he won Finals MVP, winning a title and Finals MVP for the 2nd time in 3 years.

    He led the league in PER, Defensive Win Shares (2nd time in 3 years), Win Shares, WS/48, Box plus minus, and Value Over Replacement Player

    25.8ppg, 9.8 rebounds, 6.8 assists, 2.0 steals, and .6 blocks per game.

    Led the league in FT% too, and won the 3pt shootout.

    Shot 42% from 3 in the regular season, and 41% from 3 in the playoffs.

    61.5% true shooting in the playoffs.

    What’s nuts is that his next two seasons were both statistically better, but he didn’t win a ring either year.

     

    But how many players in history led the league in both PER (an offensive biased stat) and Defensive Win Shares, while winning MVP and Finals MVP.

    Nobody had dominated both ends of the court like Larry Bird did at that time. 3 straight MVPs, two titles and Finals MVPs in 3 years, and only losing the Finals in ’85 and ’87 to one of the best (Lakers) teams ever assembled.

    In today’s terms, Bird was like Draymond Green on defense and Steph Curry on offense, but a much better passer and rebounder.

     

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/birdla01.html

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1030750
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     I will still pick the Wilt 50 point scoring average year.

    It wasn’t his fault the Warriors didn’t win, Arizin was an old player and there wasn’t anyone else who could score to help Wilt.

    Bird, Oscar Robertson, they are in the running too.

     

     

     

     

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    • #1030983
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       From a statistical standpoint no one will ever top that season. In addition to averaging 50 ppg, he also averaged 26 rpg, over 48 mims per game, and 40 shot attempts per game. Keep in mind that was when the NBA was in its infancy stages though and it was a much different game. No way wilt could come anywhere close to that in the modern NBA.

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    • #1030848
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       From a statistical standpoint no one will ever top that season. In addition to averaging 50 ppg, he also averaged 26 rpg, over 48 mims per game, and 40 shot attempts per game. Keep in mind that was when the NBA was in its infancy stages though and it was a much different game. No way wilt could come anywhere close to that in the modern NBA.

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      • #1030995
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         When adjusted for pace, Kareem’s 44 minutes per game, 34.8 points, 16.6 rebounds, and 4.8 assists is every bit as impressive… in a tougher era, and he won the title. A few years later, Kareem was averaging 3.5 blocks per game, so that seems a safe assumption for this year, as does a steal a night.  Kareem’s first 11 year numbers are crazy, and then his rebounding numbers went down (as he played with better rebounding 4s), but he was still dropping 20 for another 6years with around 2-3 bpg the whole time.  He shot between 50 and 58% the whole time and even had 70% free throws so he didn’t have Wilt or Shaq’s glaring weakness. And he won more than each.  I don’t see how it’s remotely arguable either had a better career than him, and I’d even give that 72 season the nod over any other center’s best ever.

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      • #1030860
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         When adjusted for pace, Kareem’s 44 minutes per game, 34.8 points, 16.6 rebounds, and 4.8 assists is every bit as impressive… in a tougher era, and he won the title. A few years later, Kareem was averaging 3.5 blocks per game, so that seems a safe assumption for this year, as does a steal a night.  Kareem’s first 11 year numbers are crazy, and then his rebounding numbers went down (as he played with better rebounding 4s), but he was still dropping 20 for another 6years with around 2-3 bpg the whole time.  He shot between 50 and 58% the whole time and even had 70% free throws so he didn’t have Wilt or Shaq’s glaring weakness. And he won more than each.  I don’t see how it’s remotely arguable either had a better career than him, and I’d even give that 72 season the nod over any other center’s best ever.

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  • #1030885
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     I will still pick the Wilt 50 point scoring average year.

    It wasn’t his fault the Warriors didn’t win, Arizin was an old player and there wasn’t anyone else who could score to help Wilt.

    Bird, Oscar Robertson, they are in the running too.

     

     

     

     

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  • #1031025
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    Shaq was great and could’ve had 5 more points at least if he could make free throws and being in the game during the closing moment with no fear of hack a shaq…

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  • #1030890
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    Shaq was great and could’ve had 5 more points at least if he could make free throws and being in the game during the closing moment with no fear of hack a shaq…

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  • #1031027
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    The GOAT

    Pick one of the championship years.

    Hes so good that its boring to include him in these conversations.

     

     

     

     

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  • #1030892
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    The GOAT

    Pick one of the championship years.

    Hes so good that its boring to include him in these conversations.

     

     

     

     

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  • #1031033
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     Hey guys.

    Long-time reader, first-time whatever.

     

    In my humble opinion, any discussion regarding the greatest individual season HAS to include The Big O’s ’61-62 when dude averaged a triple-double.

    I mean, come on. Really. Yes, Wilt’s year that same season was incredible, but come on. Come. On…

    A triple-double AVERAGE? And we’re not talking Draymond Green numbers here (great and versatile as he is), we’re talking averaging a trip-dub while also putting up 32 ppg.

     

     

     

     

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  • #1030898
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     Hey guys.

    Long-time reader, first-time whatever.

     

    In my humble opinion, any discussion regarding the greatest individual season HAS to include The Big O’s ’61-62 when dude averaged a triple-double.

    I mean, come on. Really. Yes, Wilt’s year that same season was incredible, but come on. Come. On…

    A triple-double AVERAGE? And we’re not talking Draymond Green numbers here (great and versatile as he is), we’re talking averaging a trip-dub while also putting up 32 ppg.

     

     

     

     

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    • #1030912
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       While Oscar Robertson’s 1962 season was definitely amazing. I personally think Russell Westbrook’s season last year was almost as impressive statistically (and yes I realize I’m going to get negged like crazy by saying this).

       Robertson averaged 30.8 PPG, 12.5 RPG and 11.4 APG in 44.3 MPG in a much faster paced NBA (more shots, more available rebounds, more points etc). If you take Westbrooks numbers from last year and convert them to 44.3 MPG you end up with 36.2 PPG, 9.4 RPG, and 11.1 APG. His rebounding numbers still seem much lower but you have to keep in mind that the average NBA game in 1962 had 142.8 available rebounds while in 2015 that per game average for rebounds was just 86.6.

      IMO, deciding on the best season for any athlete in history is tough but it’s infinitely more tough for NBA players. Ultimately many of the best players in the game (from Wilt to MJ) put up some of their best stats when they were surrounded by a vastly inferior team. While being the focal point of offense obviously meant that opposing teams would focus their defense on them it still meant that they often played an ridiculously high amount of minutes and took a high volume of shots while having the ball in their hands more than would be ideal. 

      Honestly I can’t even decide on MJ’s best season (I’d be torn between ’88, ’89, ’90 and ’91) let alone the best season for anyone in history. 

       

       

       

       

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    • #1031047
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       While Oscar Robertson’s 1962 season was definitely amazing. I personally think Russell Westbrook’s season last year was almost as impressive statistically (and yes I realize I’m going to get negged like crazy by saying this).

       Robertson averaged 30.8 PPG, 12.5 RPG and 11.4 APG in 44.3 MPG in a much faster paced NBA (more shots, more available rebounds, more points etc). If you take Westbrooks numbers from last year and convert them to 44.3 MPG you end up with 36.2 PPG, 9.4 RPG, and 11.1 APG. His rebounding numbers still seem much lower but you have to keep in mind that the average NBA game in 1962 had 142.8 available rebounds while in 2015 that per game average for rebounds was just 86.6.

      IMO, deciding on the best season for any athlete in history is tough but it’s infinitely more tough for NBA players. Ultimately many of the best players in the game (from Wilt to MJ) put up some of their best stats when they were surrounded by a vastly inferior team. While being the focal point of offense obviously meant that opposing teams would focus their defense on them it still meant that they often played an ridiculously high amount of minutes and took a high volume of shots while having the ball in their hands more than would be ideal. 

      Honestly I can’t even decide on MJ’s best season (I’d be torn between ’88, ’89, ’90 and ’91) let alone the best season for anyone in history. 

       

       

       

       

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