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  • #64753
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    For_Never_Ever
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    I’m curious what people think about his future in the league ? I thought he would be a super athletic Rip Hamilton a reliable starter on both sides of the court. However, so far he still looks like a lost child half the time on the floor. I didn’t think he would be a multi All Star type of player, but did expect him to be better than what he has shown. At least be good at his projected strengths making the open look and defend. Which he hasn’t produced or shown at level you would want. He is a really passive player that lacks handles, and needs his offense created for him. Defensively hmm I’d guess he is ok ? Rookie contract is almost up, and hasn’t shown improvement. He is still young turning 24yrs old. However potential has a time limit, and I think he could likely well be a journey man bench player.

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  • #1084765
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     He’s a lot like someone who I’ve followed for a while Terrence Ross. He is a great athlete and highly skilled scorer but lacks two major pieces. His midrange game needs improvement and he lacks ballhandling/creative ability so he only gets to use his athletisism on the fast break.

    His game and role relies on his jump shot falling and his teamgetting defensive stops and getting out on the break where he can finish at the rim without maneuvering on the ball. Scoring from the perimeter is no easy task and the fine line between good shot/bad shot and assertiveness/passiveness is very thin.

    If all his shots are falling in the half court they are usually difficult shots. If a team was giving him easy shots and then they take that away the next half/quarter people wonder why he is being passive. Its because his game is based on what the defence gives him and after he attacks a closeout he can’t do much more than one or two dribbles to get to the rim and lacks a midrange game.

    That’s why guys like KCP, Ross, Beal, McLemore can go for 15-20 points in a half then come out the next quarter and go 0 for 5 the next half and get a quick yank due to shot selection or not even take many shots and be called passive. Its a difficult role which further exemplifies the greatness of guys like Klay Thompson, Ray Allen and Reggie Miller.

     

     

     

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    He clearly has a lot of work to do, but it can’t help being in a place like Sac-Town. So much turmoil there and with constant roster/coaching changes it doesn’t bode well for his development.

    If he can find a team with a defined role and some stability he could still be a successful scoring SG.

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  • #1084779
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    mowesten
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     How does a guy with his athleticism average two rebounds and one free throw per game? When you answer that question, you’ll have the answer as to why he hasn’t lived up to expectations.

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  • #1084792
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     For where he got drafted, he’s kind of a bust.  I think he lacks game IQ, and always appears a step behind on set plays and defensive sets.  I can’t tell if his lateral quickness is subpar or if he just doesn’t read the ball movement well but his defense is not great.  The word "bust" is a little harsh at this point but I think most would agree that he has not had the impact in the NBA that everyone thought he would have.

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  • #1084815
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    ZachAttack
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     He was drafted in the 2013 Draft, pretty much everybody was a bust there. There are only 4 people that I’d definitely take above him. Rudy Gobert, Victor Oladipo, Giannis Antetokounpo, and Steven Adams. After that it’s a jungle of busts. Since he was drafted at 7, he probably wouldn’t be considered a bust in that draft.

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    • #1084828
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      mowesten
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       You can have Ben McLemore. I’ll take CJ McCollum, drafted No 10 in that same draft.

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      • #1084835
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        ZachAttack
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         Forgot about him… 6 players I’d take above McLemore

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  • #1084822
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     He’s not a bust. He was easily the best prospect available when considering skill, athletisism, talent, health and productivity. He has performed well and is a steady role player, nothing special but he had played his role and is an NBA player. There is also plenty of time for him to improve he is very young and he has played for arguable the most inconsistent franchise in the league.

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  • #1084849
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    pokie
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     For me, his was the toughest draft to mine in years and years. Everyone was scratching their heads when Antetokounpo went at fifteen. Who? Why? If you redrafted that class, he would probably be the top pick. That draft was chock-full of underdeveloped talent. From both sides of the Atlantic. Half the class came out to early. Some to their doom. If you look at the list now it reinforces the old scout’s rule of thumb: pick a guy who can do at least one thing at an NBA level. McLemore has yet to manifest any really exceptional facet to his game. Until he does, it will be difficult to justify his draft position. Guards do sometimes take longer. He may just need a change of scene. It worked for Mr. Big Shot.

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