Auber and White basketball players
I think anyone who watches and pays attention to syracuse athletics knows who devo is and what he's about. I think he'd be a cancer in the NBA regardless of what G-Mac has stated about him. I will admit I'm not for most white players playing in the nba on a talent stand point, but not on a racial stand point. ESPN did a study of white players in the game and the numbers a joke. It's all good D-Hamp, your just waiting for the next americanized larry bird to happen and it's a sad far cry from the truth. The moral of this thread is that Devo will not play in the NBA, i can't believe this is turning into that much of an issue.
I really don't understand why y'all have to go and argue about this...whether or not Devo's a thug is irrelevant, and why Auber thinks Devo's a thug is even more irrelevant...
Seriously, DHamp, not harshing on you or anything, but if you think that Devo's not a thug, and you feel you are justified in saying so, then you could just give yourself a pat on the back and tell yourself that you're right. No need to go after Auber for his opinion, especially since you probably won't change his view on Devo or, as you termed it, other 'white basketball players'.
I don't really care whether he is a thug or not, if he's got a team mentality, can stay out of trouble with the law, and has skills, I'd be fine with him in the NBA. He doesn't really have NBA skills, so all the other parts are moot.
Anyway, DHamp, thug is something I could define differently from you. I mean, Devo might not be a thug in the 'drug dealing, gun toting, dirty work doing' mold that you're thinking of, but he might be a thug if a thug is someone 'possibly violent, hanging around with shady people, and engaging in questionably violent behavior'. But it has nothing to do with basketball or the draft.
Anyway, how do y'all think the Warriors can do next year? Can they join the race for the playoffs?
I think thug is used as derogatory word and nobody is perfect enough to throw labels without having another derogatory label thrown at them but if Auber and D HAMP feel strongly about their causes then so be it. People with their own views of another person will continue. I mean we see here and talk about where some rookies may be career wise so obviously some people are judging character just like people judge talent. Yall need to squash this because neither one of yall will change your stance.
But many people precieve a THUG as a man with Tattoos, "I don't give a F UCK" attitude, and his actions... But here's the problem... I always say this, ALWAYS!!! THUGS don't go to COLLEGE!!! A Thug is the guy that says "you is", a Thug is someone who has his gun next to him always, a Thug is in a gang....................... I'm pretty sure if someone you know that is highly pub in Devo, YOU would tell on him if he pulled a gun out on you.... I know damn well I would and I'm black... Not a snitch, but smart... If a man I KNOW pulled a gun on me and nothing happens to him, I SWEAR, I would do everything in my power for him to feel the way I did when he pulled that gun out on me...
Auber, i believe means well, but fell into what most of soceity does... Just because you hang with black guys and you are white doesn't mean you are a thug... Nor does it mean you are trying to be one... You don't know how Devo was raised and who he was around... SO as far as we know (since majority of basketball players are black anyway) Devo been around blacks majority of his life... Its part of his personality... It doesn't make him a Thug or THUGGISH... His actions on the court or the "I don't give a F UCK" attitude is more of a A$$hole than a Thug to me... Jordan talked s hit, punched his teammates, and rubbed it in people faces... Remember vs. the Knicks? IS MJ a thug? LOL...
I'm sure Devo isn't selling drugs or pulling out burners on you guys... Leave the man alone and stick to basketball convos... Call the man a A$$, but don't call him a Thug... Because IN MY OPINION he's not...
Let's just end this with some thoughts from Urban Dictionary ftw.
sheltwon you brought up 2pac and it's ironic that they do too.
Definiton 1-
"As Tupac defined it, a thug is someone who is going through struggles, has gone through struggles, and continues to live day by day with nothing for them. That person is a thug. and the life they are living is the thug life. A thug is NOT a gangster. Look up gangster and gangsta. Not even CLOSE, my friend. "
^---- This doesn't talk about killing people. It talks about a man living a &$#%#&@! life, and going through his struggles.
Definiton 2-
"To be a true thug doesnt mean wearing "bling", listening to rap and talking "black". Being a gangsta isnt superficial.. To be a true thug means you havent had it good your whole life, and you intend to change that, and get out of the ghetto if thats where you are, you do whats right, you dont take &$#%#&@! from anyone, and stand up for your friends and dont let them take &$#%#&@! from anyone! You dont have to be a stereotypical "gangsta" to be a thug, a skater can be a thug, a nerd can be a thug, a hick can be a thug, a prep can be a thug, and old ass man can be a thug! So forget your stupid &$#%#&@! stereotypes and thinking that everybody has to fit into one group, and be labeled. And i'll tell you what... Damn it feels good to be a gangster! "
I got a good laugh out of this for the people who are honestly taking this thread seriously.
LOL... You are not a 2Pac I see... THUG LIFE was a movement more than a cd... T.H.U.G. L.I.F.E.= The Hate U Gave Little Infants F0ck Everybody... They went on tours promoting THUG life... So Tupac's defenition was totally different than majority of society... Especially White society...
You can say what you want, but if you were to ask 10 random people on the street whats a THUG and they would describe someone from the HOOD... So, your point isn't valid...
But then again what is your point? You call Devo a THUG, but you talking now as if you were giving him a compliment...
it's funny because i actually had this same conversation about this same topic about a year ago... except the topic was BRANDON JENNINGS and somebody was calling him a THUG for not going to college! lol....
That conversation also went straight to racism, which is dumb. I don't know why that has anything to do with being a THUG.
It sounds to me like you guys have different definitions of THUG. To me, a thug is something more like DHamp was saying... someone who has utter disregard for other people, stuff like murdering or robbing people... selling drugs to innocent kids.
The reality remains that not everyone has the same definition of Thug... To some people a Thug is more like a 2pac T.H.U.G.L.I.F.E... some people wouldn't mind being a thug because they don't give a &$#%#&@! what other people think of them, which I think is something that would probably hold true for Devo. If you asked him if he thought he was a thug, he might say he is, he might say he's not... who cares.
People like Devo and KMart definitely try to project themselves in a somewhat thug image, especially relative to other people... like JJ Redick? We all know thugs, and I guarantee 99% look and act a whole lot more like Devo or KMart, unless you know people in the mafia. Which brings up another good point... if you walk around dressed like you were in the mafia and walked around with a mafia strut, people would probably PERCEIVE you as a thug... whether or not you are a thug, who cares?
Devo, to me, wants to be perceived as a thug. There's definitely an intimidation factor involved... whether or not he's a true thug, that's up to him.
the ..thugs dont go to college thing is false..we had a couple thugs at my college on the football team..a couple were crips who have done alot of thug activities....florida st had some when my boy was there and usc had some when my cousin went there..so yea thugs do go to college
the reality is, thugs are real people who have made some mistakes and bad decisions in their lives... some get caught up, some don't. some have crazy athletic abilities and other people cover for them because they actually have a chance to make it. some make it to college, most don't.
I tutor an African woman (who i'm very fond of) who has NO BUSINESS being in college. She can't even use a calculator. I'm her statistics teacher and she knows how to use the equations to some extent, she just can't put the numbers in her calculator with any accuracy!
If she can make it in college, i'm sure guys with HIRED tutors can float through college.
You are in College you are doing something constructive with your life... I tell young freshman this all the time trying to prove themselves... You go to college to create a better life for yourself, not to be a hard... Hence the term, THUGS don't go to college... People make dumb decisions everywhere... I'm an intern at a top accounting firm right now and some of my co-workers does drugs and a couple are grads from Harvard... I'm in school with WHITE GUYS that look like JJ Reddick and they sell weed... You call them a THUG too? Im just saying, I don't hate how someone makes their living... That's not my issue, but its hard for me to agree with someone who says a guy that went to college is a Thug... I'm Pretty sure when Devo is 30 he won't be on that corner all night, trying to come up... But its all up to how you preceive a Thug... And you can say what you want, but I've never heard ANYONE call a Skin head a THUG... But, I could be wrong...
Im Done Good Luck on figuring this out...
ahhhhh are u a summer intern? just went through all the training?
hahahahaha that's funny... you'll loosen up by august... you won't jeopardize the firm by disclosing that you work with them though, btw.... lol
and you can go on nbadraft.net at work~ just get your work done and no one cares what you do.
ahhhhh are u a summer intern? just went through all the training?
hahahahaha that's funny... you'll loosen up by august... you won't jeopardize the firm by disclosing that you work with them though, btw.... lol
and you can go on nbadraft.net at work~ just get your work done and no one cares what you do.
ahhhhh are u a summer intern? just went through all the training?
hahahahaha that's funny... you'll loosen up by august... you won't jeopardize the firm by disclosing that you work with them though, btw.... lol
and you can go on nbadraft.net at work~ just get your work done and no one cares what you do.
There sure has been a lot of interaction since I last timed in on this thread.
In conclusion, Auber, I hope you learned you lesson about unwarrentedly calling people thugs. It seems as though more people on this site would agree with me more so than you on this one. No big deal. Call Devo a garbage, NDBL player, who's immature and has no game. But don't call him a thug without knowing anything about him.
Hubie Brown
As I said earlier, to me a thug, robs, steal shoots and harms people. Calling Devo that gives off the wrong connotation. And the more people say it, the more they will beleive it. Face it, Auber was wrong for unjustly calling Devo a thug. And anyone who agrees with Auber on this issue is stupid.
Hubie Brown