Anthony Randolph
Eh...He beginning to become one of those "hype" guys to me.
I believe he has talent but he is not a #1 option in his prime I feel. I think he could be Lamar Odom at best. Even then, he hasn't shown his 3D ability yet.
Eric Gordon was another guy who was supposed to take the NBA by storm but I haven't seen it yet. I remember people ripping NY for taking Gallo over Gordon while Gordon and Gallo has similar numbers this past season...
can he stay healthy for an 82 game season? dude needs to add muscle like something fierce! if he can bulk up, stay healthy, and continue improving with that skill set... YES! he has a lot of work to do to get there, though. still unproven - summer league, sure...but when it counts...? the jury's still out... ask again in 2-3 years.
I think Randolph can be a 2nd option on a low seeded playoff team or he can be a Lamar Odom-type 6th man on a title contender. He is a nice offensive talent, and he has great size with the frame to put on weight and get stronger. I think he needs to leave Golden State, or Don Nelson needs to leave, for him to reach his potential. He has a great deal of upside waiting to be unleashed.
randolph is an excellent talent, he has great potential, but his work ethic is in question. he needs to get bigger in his play and his body, like redman said, ask again in 2-3 yrs. hes still really young.
if the warriors trade him, i think it wood be 4 his own good.
He is only 21, and has only played for a very bad team. You can't just set a ceiling in stone for him yet. He definitely has all-star potential. He played quite effectively last when given the chance. He rebounded well and showed flashes of being able to create for himself. He could really help himself if he gains weight, improves his shot and post game, and becomes more efficient.
If anthony randolph was to become something great i think he wouldve been able to show some skills by now. I mean he plays for the warriors and he's young, that means you should be able to score no matter who you are. If anthony tolliver (he plays for the warriors if you didnt know) can come in and average a double double on the warriors then theres no way that anthony randolph shouldnt be able to play. In golden state everyone just sets up a 1 on 1 clinic and if randolph was that talented he should be able to dominate (numbers-wise). I'm a kings fan and i watch him 4 times a year and he never has impressed me. CJ watson who i thought was terrible has surprised me and players such as that but randolph hasn't impressed me. He gets (along with everyone) all the freedom in the world when he's on the floor and he just hasnt produced. It's a good thing we passed on him and took jason thompson unlike what everyone thought we shouldve done
@knicksboy32
How can you put Anthony Randolph and Eric Gordon in the same sentence? Gordon struggled with injuries and didn't have the soph season he wanted to, but he's been better than just good thus far in his career. He'd average over 20 on the Knicks in that offense. Instead he's stuck in LA playing with a disfunctional team and with an inconsistent and ball dominant point guard in Baron Davis.
And as far as Randolph... The talent is there. Dude has a very nice overall package of height, length, athleticism and versatility. However, I've read reports that his work ethic is garbage. He's also too emotional and sensitive. It may take him a couple more years to be the player we think he can be.
To me Randolph could even be better than Odom because he's more athletic. He can start the fast break, grab rebounds, blocks shots and could be a good shooter if he works hard at it. He has to be put in the right situation, maybe a team like Chicago at the four spot could be the perfect fit.
To me Randolph could even be better than Odom because he's more athletic. He can start the fast break, grab rebounds, blocks shots and could be a good shooter if he works hard at it. He has to be put in the right situation, maybe a team like Chicago at the four spot could be the perfect fit.
Common now guys. Randolph has been in the league only 2 years and the dude has been jerked around by nelson in season one or injured in season two.
His first season he got yanked in and out of the lineup all the time. 10 mins one night, then a night off then 25 minutes then nothing for 2 games. It started to mess the guy up and he played only 66 games. In 17 mins he put up 8 pts 6 boards and a block plus he was close to an assist and steal per game as well. He shot 46% from the field and over 70% from the line. Those are decent numbers considering his age, playing time,frequency and being a rookie.
Season 2 last year he played only 33 games and got injured. Prior to his injury he averaged 22 minutes in his second season while the warriors were still somewhat healthy. In those 22 minutes he put up 11.6 points 6.5 rebounds a block and a half a steal and an assist. He also shot 80% from the line. Who knows if Toliver even has a job if not for Randolph`s injury. In any event, Randolph would have gotten some serious playing time the entire rest of the season. Probably close to forty minutes with all the injuries the wariors had. Curry proved to be a fantastic pick and roll passer and his outside shooting would have opened up the interior for a guy like randolph to flourish. He would have put up over 20 and 10 a game over 2 blocks, maybe 3 and atleast a steal or 2 a game. He also hits his free throws!
By all accounts he is more coachable then Tyrus Thomas, with a better shooting touch, comparable athleticism and I really believe he`s going to be a stud. Their are a ton of GM`s who would love to get their hands on him.
He is a very productive player when he gets floor time and will only continue to get better. He also cares on the defensive end and has a real passion for the game. What more do you want out of such a young player... If you check his game log he has had some really monster games when given a chance.
Nelson also hates playing young guys. Curry only got so much playing time because he had no choice to play him with all their injuries.
I believe he just really needs to be put in the right situation,
He could be a poor man's kevin durant maybe a 2nd option to a contending team
IF he reaches his potential, but with what golden state is doing, i dont believe he'll do any good with them
i believe he SHOULD play the Small Forward Position instead of playing the 4 or 5
I read reports that said early on he did not work hard enough. He is still young and has shown flashes of what he can do but he needs to stay healthy and keep developing. Every young player can't be a Lebron. Some people need time. I remember these kinds of thoughts with T Mac Jermaine O'neal and a few other players. Some player it is certain to take longer to be good. Sometimes it is physical and sometimes they are still learning the game. A lot of people wanted to give up on Redick but now he is showing what he can do as a role player and if he was starting he could be playing the way many felt he could but Orlando does not really put him in the best position to succeed. I dont know why they dont just use him like Boston used Ray Allen. Ray Allen got a lot of good look at 3's and can you imagine if Orlando did this for Redick. Obvious Redick does not have Allen's athleticism but still right now Allen does not even has as much athleticism so I think Redick could be used like Allen.
A poor man's Kevin Durant? Huh? Wow... I don't see how that's possible. He doesn't have anything close to the skill set Durant has and he never will.
@HotSnot
There's a reason he's getting yanked don't you think? D-League players were coming in and getting more minutes than him.
he seems too me to have all the talent in the world but no work ethic at all comparing him to odom is an insult to odom randolph will never put up odom numbers he doesnt rebound as well hell odom can be a pg when needed to run an offense could randolph ever do that dont think so
How about a poor mans Odom in a few years but a better shot blocker.
Definately needs to hit the gym 15-20 pounds of muscle would help a lot.
He's young right now so that shouldn't be a problem.
Nellie hold back young guys for some reason not sure why since the Warriors don't have any great big men anyway.
Trade him if your not going to use him, better than him walking after 2 more years.
i think he has great skills but they more suitable to street basketball then NBA, even he has great skills he missing NBA skills like shooting and more and therefore i think it's worng to say he has great potential and that he could be great player.
I never said Randolph and Gordon were underachivers, I said both are in the "hype:waiting" category for me.
Gordon isin't bad but people ripped the Knicks for not taking him. I watch these guys play and I feel Gallo isin't terrible. He plays out of position and was 2nd in the L in 3pt. Gordon will average 20 points but I don't think he will be a crazy superstar like everyone was hyping him to be predraft.
WHen he he gets his minutes he easily puts up 15,10 and 2. Easily. His production per minute is amazing for how young he is (compares as well as other all star bigs). He just needs the minutes. He is not up to 240 lbs now so he is no longer weak. He is strong now
"I don't think he (Gordon) will be a crazy superstar like everyone was hyping him to be predraft."
I'm one of the biggest Gordon supporters out here and I don't remember anybody hyping him up to become a "crazy superstar". If that was the case, he wouldn't have lasted to the 7th pick. I do think he would've been a better pick for New York than Gallinari though. The Knicks could've had a backcourt of Gordon (2008) and Jennings (2009). Instead they ended up with Gallinari and Jordan Hill.
My thing is you can't draft these high upside guys and realistically expect significant contributions, or for them to play like vets, especially when their so young, and are on losing teams. So to be surprised that Randolph hasn't put it all together yet is not a shocker, he has a long way to go. So fans and golden state should be patient, cause they knew wat they bargained for.
i'm a warriors fan as well and have season tickets (why i do NOT know) but when Nellie isn't &$#%#&@! with Randolphs minutes, he's a constant double-double threat. his jumper is improving, an i think a curry/randolph pick-n-roll combo could be a potentialy leathal combo for years to come. but nellie needs to let Randolph run an make mistakes, dude is only 21, he's gonna mess up a couple times.
Wasnt sold on this guy like most of ya'll then and im still not now. is he talented?..yeah does he have all star potential to me?..no..is he lamar odom type?..no..odom was much better after coming into the nba after one year of college. hes a third option at the very very best to me and thats pushing it. i think he is/was overhyped by scouts and people on here and peopel try to find excuses as to why he hasnt produced liek they though he should. yeah hes with gs but other players are also on that team who have shined. even the rookie curry who only played pg for one year in college has come in and played better. when randolph has played hes shown flashes but hes also shown to be clueless out there many times. his handles are shakey to the point that i wouldnt start him at sf. he can bring it up court but once he gets pressured his lack of handles really show. his jumper is not a factor either. yeah hes still young and should get better but i just dont see this great all star potential like many young players before him have shown even when playing on bad dysfunctional teams
And no he doesnt EASILY put up 15 and 10 and 2 because hes had games where hes gotten those minutes and didnt put up those numbers tired of the per 48 min thing.. anyone happen to see sergio per 48 min and how his numbers looked with the knicks after he got mor emin?..maybe maggette should be the main guy since his per 48 would be around 30ppg
I am a huge Randolph fan. Its hard to play for someone who clearly doesnt like you and vice-versa. I would trade anyone on the Knicks roster for him. Despite what some of you have said, I saw real toughness in him in some of the games i saw of him. He is a phenomenal dribbler for 6'10", solid midrange game, very solid defender who can defend any position on the floor.
Are you serious I wouldn't give up Gallo for him unless we landed a SF.
Randolph is a PF with skills but he's only shown some flashes of being great. Only time he's dominated is summer league which means nothing. 44% shooting and its not like he takes 3's and why does he foul so much. Also doubtufl the Warriors move him unless its for a pick.
I see your pt mainly becaz of the shot blocking which the Knicks really lack.
Unlikely the Knicks get him, they would've just drafted him if they were high on him.
Also I'd much rather have Gallo than Eric Gordon who's an undersized SG who doesn't rebound or pass well.
Walsh didnt know alot about him before the '08 draft but has become a huge fan since. We may have had the pieces to try to get him before the McGrady trade but I agree that we probably cant get him now unless G.S. was interested in Chandler, Walker, and/or Douglas.
Randolph plays for Golden State. Who is the coach of the Warriors? Don Nelson... who is a complete lunatic.
There is a reason Stephen Jackson and Monta Ellis have had huge problems with Don Nelson and both wanted out. Don Nelson is nuts.
Put Randolph on practically any other team in the league and he's a 35 mpg starter. He's one of the few young players who truly have superstar potential.
To me Randolph seems like he could take the world by storm if he was in a situation where he actually got to play and where the coaching staff put some faith in him.
What are everybody's thoughts on him?
What do you think it would cost a team to trade for him?