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  • #36444
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     Good game tonight. Im not very high on him, but i think he will be the number 1 pick (unless teams like Wash or Char pick 1, they gonna get Barnes) he does make an impact. Hes a beast. he plays JUST LIKE Marcus Camby, i mean that is who he reminds me of

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  • #635455
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     its really up to people with drummond in the race. you can go skills or potential. i know i got davis, the guys goes 100% on every play. not to mention he doesn’t have bad games

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  • #635457
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    Mr. 19134
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     Wait you watched tonights game and you’re still not high on him?  Have you ever saw somebody dominate on defense in college the way he does?  He had another outrageous 7 blocks tonight.  He get’s atleast 2 blocks a game on somebody attempting a 3 pointer which is absurd.  

    I watched Marcus Camby play at UMass that was the same year the Sixers got the first pick and landed A.I.  The only thing Camby and Davis have in common is their skinny frame, smoothe athleticism, and shot blocking skills.  Anthony Davis has way more overall talent then Camby did coming into the league and Camby stayed 3 years.  Anthony Davis has already blocked more shots in one season then Marcus Camby ever did in one year of college.

    And nobody is going to draft Harrison Barnes over Anthony Davis, nobody.  Davis is inked in as the number one guy on every teams big board and barring injury I have a hard time believing that could possibly change.

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  • #635469
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    azerton
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    Plus he just loooks so tall and long , I mean he looked at least 1 inch bigger than the Ezeli guy who btw is listed 6’11 … Pretty srary , and he surprised me also with his shooting form that was pretty damn solid I thought , he’s far from being raw like everybody would like to believe . Personnaly I think he’s the next KG (probably more defensivly oriented ) …

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  • #635536
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    if they got the number 1 pick, they would probably trade down to #3 pick. no need to use #1 pick for barnes.

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  • #635559
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    Mr. 19134
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    I wanted to say something about that, when Anthony Davis and Festus Ezeli were standing next to each other, which was most of the game BTW, Davis clearly had an inch to 2 inches on Fes.  I had to check to make sure I remenbered Ezeli was listed at 6’11 because there’s no way.  I thought it about it before when seeing Davis stand next to Terrence Jones who measured in at 6’9 in shoes that Davis may have grown more.

    People make too much about Davis’ frame.  Do you guys realize that he’s been weighed at 225 this year? By the time he comes to the NBA Anthony Davis is going to have possibly grown to 6’11 235.  If you don’t think 6’11, 235 lbs, with a 7’5 wingspan and outstanding athleticism are great measurements for a post player in todays NBA I dunno what to tell you.  But nobody in their right mind would trade the chance to draft Anthony Davis away that’s insane.  Do you think the Clippers were tryna trade down to draft James Harden instead of Blake Griffin?

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  • #635577
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    jaysmith1987
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    This guys a monster hes super talented long armed and hits his free throws. Hes also clutch and makes alot of big plays. People talk about his offense but everyone on his team can score so hes not needed to score but he still gets like 14 a game hes a beast and everyone compares drummond to stoudemire and howard they both have 0 rings. Give me baby kg lets not forget kg led league in boards being skinny he had some 20 and 15.
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  • #635600
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    Mr. 19134
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     Yes JaySmith you are exactly right.  I wanna tell people Anthony Davis is the next KG but they’re stuck on stupid cuz all they see is him catching oops for easy dunks like KG didn’t have plenty of them too.  Davis plays a super efficient game in Kentucky’s system.  Anthony Davis leads the number one team in the nation in scoring and people wanna act like he can’t score….?  I don’t get it.  He would obviously average as easy 3 or even 5 more points on a team that’s not as deep as Kentucky.

    Too many people focus on stats and especially points.  Anthony Davis is a game changer, he does every thing that don’t show up but makes your team win plus he’ll still put up the stats, like 5 bpg is just outrageous and he’s getting better as the season goes on.  If he don’t win player of the year it’s a crime because he completely owned Thomas Robinson when they played.

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  • #635632
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     i see a lil KG, but KG is a goon, i dont see goon in ant. i jus see a very talented role player… a Noah or Tyson Chandler guy who can fit with what the team asks him to do,.. shoot i hope he turns into a star but im lookn at reality

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  • #635636
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    JrbenzCuse23

    listen dont get me wrong Davis is very good and he is a unique player. I honestly believe that he would not get the better of either fab melo or andre drummond, just based on their body types and games. I know everybody goes crazy for him its like the law apparantley but I dont see him winning the 1 on 1 battle with either of those two. Drummond is a beast if Uconn could use him right.

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  • #635637
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    omphalos
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    Bobcats shouldn’t take Davis, they need scoring badly, and they already have a raw shot-blocker in Biyombo.

    I don’t see Davis as a franchise player, I think Calipari has done a great job of hiding his weaknesses and raising his stock, but whoever takes him over Drummond is going to regret it in my opinion. I just pray it isn’t the Bobcats, because MJ really can’t have another whiffed draft pick and still have any credibility as an owner.

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  • #635645
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    OhCanada-
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    I highly doubt Jordan passes on one of his own, but then agan I dont think Charlotte will get the 1st overall selection. How many years did Minnesota have the worst record and not select 1st, it is very seldom seen.

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  • #635657
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    Mr. 19134
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    Anthony Davis averaged 32 bpg, 22 rpg, and 7 bpg as a high school senior and was the number one rated prospect in the country coming into this season.  He played well in every All Star game and was even named Co-MVP of the Jordan Brand Classic, at which point I’m sure Jordan himself got a great look at him.

    I don’t understand where all this doubt came from about his abilities.  He was never labeled as an unskilled raw player, he was just noted as being raw in the post because he grew up playing on the wing.  But it’s obvious from watching half a college basketball season that Anthony Davis is an extremely quick learner who has the type of talent that will adept to become successful to any circumstance.  This is the type of integral ingredient that seperates that greats from fakes.  The Athony Randolph’s from the Kevin Durants.  Andre Drummond and Derrick Favors both seemed to lack this trait.  Harrison Barnes took most of last year to finally come around.  Anthony Davis, like Demarcus Cousins, has been dominant out the gate for Kentucky.  

    Terrence Jones is a proven scorer.  He was a fantastic scorer as freshman last year and came back thinking he was going to be the big man on campus.  Both Marquise Teague and Michael Kidd Gilchrist came in as known scorers.  Yes MKG needs to work on his shot but he’s been a clutch performer and scoring threat on any level he’s played in.  With all of this talent around him, this extra skinny, supposed "raw" big man named Anthony Davis should of got lost in the sauce a little.  He should of been the one settling for offensive rebounds and garbage points, while the more polished offensive weapons got theirs.   But that hasn’t been the case.  Anthony Davis is the best scorer on that Kentucky team.  He’s even more efficient then Demarcus Cousins as a center at Kentucky.

    To say Drummond or Fab Melo could beat Anthony Davis one on one is just crazy.  First off, name one big man that has played against Anthony Davis all year that even looked like he knew how to score against him.  Then realize that Davis has more skill then both Drummond and Melo.  Drummond and Davis would be a great one on one battle and Drummond also has massive upside but he doesn’t have the cerebral part of the game down yet.  He wouldn’t know how to stop Anthony Davis one on one but Davis would know how to stop him.  

    Fes Ezeli is a NBA calibur body playing center at Vandy.  Ezeli is listed at 6’11 and 255 pounds, and looks every bit the part of a physical speciman.  Well did anybody see Ezeli using that to his advantage against Davis?  I saw Ezeli bully his way into the paint on Davis then get his shot blocked before it even left his hands.  That was a great measuring stick of how Davis will handle stronger post players.

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  • #635661
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    omphalos
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    I don’t give too much credit to high-school stats or All-Star game MVPs. The majority of Davis’ opponents would have been a lot smaller than him, and less athletic. The same can be said about college to a degree, where in all the games I’ve watched not only Davis, but every Kentucky player had a significant athletic advantage.

    The UK team is so strong at every position that Davis is almost an afterthought on the offensive end a lot of the times. I’ve watched him play a few times now against marquee opposition and he simply doesn’t strike me as ever being a Aldridge type PF who can bang inside, defend and shoot the jumper in clutch situations.

    Too many college wunderkinds have failed in the pros, especially athletic freaks like Davis who are so rare in college, but almost commonplace in the NBA.

    Also, if you look at the PF position, where Davis is likely to play in the pros, it’s the deepest position in the NBA, and I don’t see him being better than any of the top 10 players at the position anytime soon.

    This is why I’d take Drummond. From the games I’ve seen of his, you can see him making NBA level moves in the post, in situations where he’d be getting the ball in the pros, rather than dunking on hapless college players. Also, Drummond is a legitimate C, which is the weakest position at the moment, so having your franchise player at the 5 is just common sense.

    Look at Marc Gasol and Rudy Gay for example. You’d be hard pressed to find a person who would say Gasol is a better player than Gay, but because the SF position is so stacked and the C position so weak he gets the All-Star nod. Positional depth is an important consideration with the first overall pick, and I’d rather have my best player having an advantage at his position than being outmatched in a third of all games.

    This is just my reasoning for why Davis shouldn’t be taken before Drummond, I don’t expect everyone to feel this way. However, it will take a few more years before either of us is justified in our opinions, because the pros will be the real test for both players, college is just a prologue.

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  • #635663
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    lalaila
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    Davis’ potential is as unlimited as Drummond’s

    he is still growing and from 6’9.5 209(nike hoop summit measurements) he has already grown into like 6’11 7’6wingspan 220-225 monster, his wide shoulders will let him reach 240pound range easily..he is absolutely freak defensively but on offensive he is impressive too..he will deffinitely be good jump shooter in time and his post game is improving he already shows nice footwork and a little jump hook or spin move..adding that he is one of the most active 6’11 star bigmen one of the msot athletic and cordinated too i bet his alley oop party will translate a little too..he just have nouse for it..someone like L.Aldridge and more athletic

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  • #635688
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    WizardofOz
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     I highly doubt Charlotte and Washington pass on Davis if they get #1.

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  • #635693
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    "I highly doubt Charlotte and Washington pass on Davis if they get #1."

    May very well be, but he is either going to enter the league as a less skilled offensive version of Andrei Kirilenko or a younger entering version of Taj Gibson. That doesn’t make those teams better. The Wizards and Bobcats are 1st and 6th in the NBA in blocked shots so far. It hasn’t helped them stop anyone, and they already have an abundance of offensively limited weakside shot blockers.

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  • #635705
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     The Wiz arent taking him hahaha that laughable. they dont need him. they have future 4’s in Booker and Vess. They need a 3, like Barnes

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  • #635713
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    JonOats
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     Two guys who did just fine against Davis: Cody and Tyler Zeller. And Festus got more than his average last night despite being double teamed and hammered every time he had it. Skilled post players eat him up. Davis is always going to block some shots but he commits dumb fouls despite what the announcers say and his post defense is very lacking. Almost all his blocks are help side and leaves teams open to crash the offensive boards when he doesn’t get there (12 last night for Vandy).

    I saw last night an athletic guy who runs well for easy baskets and is a good help defender not a superstar. Festus is being picked 34th in the lastest mock draft and not expected to start in the NBA and they canceled each other out. I guess Mr 19314 missed the times Festus bullyed Davis down low for easy lasy ups. Left one on one Festus had the advantage. They gave Davis credit for one block that Festus lost control of one the way up and Davis blocked another cleanly but Vandy got the ball back and scored.

    I’m not saying I’d take Ezeli over Davis but what does Davis do that Serge Ibaka doesn’t do? And again the over value of block shots came into effect last week when Serge blocked 10 shots (almost unheard of anymore) and OKC set a franchise record for blocks…and they lost to Sacramento. 

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  • #635714
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    I like Davis but to say he is as good as Camby was after his 3rd year in college is a joke.  He may be a better shot blocker but that is it.  Camby was pretty much their whole team.  He did not have the talent around him that Davis has.  I kind of laugh when people think every new player is so much better than a player that was good 10 years ago and think that people on the forum will either not remember or were not born to disagree with them.

    Camby was good early on but was injury prone which hurt him buy once he started staying healthy the numbers stay consistent and everyone knew how valuable he was.

     

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  • #635727
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     Yeah so many people overhype Ant and dont realize guys like Tyrus,Dalembert, B wright got the same looks from Gm’s. i hope davis proves me wrong and turns into KG, but u cant build with a skinny shot blocker…. You have to build wit wings and true big men

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  • #635735
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    Davis reminds me of Anthony Randolph (I know I’m insane)… Davis may have a motor though which Randolph has lacked in the pros I know… I’ll probably get hated on for this comparison but it’s just a feeling fellas… Anthony Randolph was an alley oop machine in college (he is in the pros even) and matched up against smaller less athetic players he can be a block machine (which he has shown the potential of being in the pros)… This is coming from someone who wants Randolph to get more PT on the wolves (him and rubio play really well together)… Don’t rip me up too bad, it’s a pretty impulsive post.. 

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  • #635741
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    Knicksboy42
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     I think he could be Hakeem on defense to be honest. I would take him number one in any scenario. With his speed and size, I think he could be the best defensive player in the league, as well as a 15-18 point scorer for the next decade. 

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  • #635746
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    For anyone who thinks he doesn’t have any post moves, did you catch that pivot up and under the basket last night? Pretty sick move. Of course the dude still needs some work in that department but let’s give credit where it’s due. Plus, I like the foundation of his jumpshot; it’s smooth and has a good release so idk why he wouldn’t be able to develop one in the NBA.

    I haven’t watched any recent UCONN games but I really don’t see how Davis is not the best prospect in the NCAA. Maybe Drummond is doing some big things while I’m not watching his team but one thing he isn’t doing is winning. That’s for sure (lamb, napier, drummond, now boatright and they still lose big to ‘Cuse? wow.) 

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  • #635750
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    Someone on this post compared him to Tyson Chandler and Noah those are 2 of the better centers in the league and i think thats his floor. All the people comparing him to Anthony Randolph dont realize Davis has a motor Randolph doesnt that is why Randolph isnt doing to well in the league. There have been alot of super talented athletic players who didnt pan out and the common factor is no motor.you dont have to worry about that with Davis. At worst hes kenyon martin his prime. Kmart still caught alley opps and scored around 17 a game and also made some finals. And just because Davis doesnt look as intimidating as kg doesnt mean hes not because i have seen players just throw wild shots at the hoop because they are afraid to get blocked. Dont forget this guy blocks shots all the way to the three point line. As for Drummond he plays for a average college team with an average motor and good athleticism reminds me of derrick favors and if teams could redraft he doesnt go over monroe or cousins. I really think the alley beetween the legs is the only reason hes projected so high.

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  • #635802
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    tbp82
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    Anthony Davis has been amazing all season long. The difference between Davis and guys like Tyrus Thomas is one Davis is taller than Thomas and two Davis is a great defender not just a shot blocker. As far as the Brandan Wright comparison goes again Davis is taller than Brandan Wright, Wright was known as a shot blocker not a defender. The comparison to Anthony Randolph seems even further off. Randolph wanted to play point/forward and was bringin the ball up the court and shooting jumpers and slashing to the basket. Randolph was in that Lamar Odom mold while Davis is in that Marcus Camby, Tson Chandler mold.

    I wonder some times if we are watching the same games. I watch Kentucky play a ton this year and I see a guy who is  holding his own in a tough ACC. I mean they got big bodies in the ACC like Jaymachel Green, Ezilie, Stokes, Patic Young these are big burly type big men and Anthony Davis hasn’t been pushed around by these guys.

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