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The notion of a single player

The notion of a single player carrying a team is ridiculous. No player can carry a team by himself. Every player needs help or else the entire defense can focus on them. Not even Michael Jordan could be successful if he was guarded by five defenders every time he had the ball.

In no way am I saying that a great player doesn't make his teammates better. What I'm saying is that the role players have to make something out of the opportunities created for them.

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Right, but

the role players that play with Kobe get far fewer opportunities than the role players that play with Lebron. I'm not saying that I wouldn't want my star player taking the shot over my role players, but when defenses key in on you, do you force the action and take bad shots, or do you hit the open man (create opportunities for your role players)? Lebron is hands down better at creating for others.

It's all about reading the defense and making the correct play. Not "I'm shooting this no matter what."

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I agree with you that LeBron

I agree with you that LeBron is better at creating for his teammates. He averaged 8.6 assists per game in his last season for Cleveland. His supporting cast in Cleveland wasn't as bad as people made it out to be, but it could have been better.

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It starting to seem like

Hate is blinding some people in here. Other than the Laker fan, no one should say Kobe in his prime is leaps and bounds a better player than LeBron James. He's more effecient, he fills up the stat sheet, he defends multiple positions, can play multiple positions. At the end of the day I think all players can say Kobe is better because his reputation of sinking enemy teams with clutch performances speaks for itself. But I'll be damned if any of those same players would like to play on a team with Kobe Bryant.

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Trust him, he's a doctor. In

Trust him, he's a doctor.

In all honesty, if LeBron had Kobe's/MJ's personality and mentality, he would be the best player of all time.

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4 MVP's to 1, right? Say what

4 MVP's to 1, right? Say what you will about titles, but was there ever a point where Kobe was the consensus best player in the league, the way LBJ is today? Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure there was always a strong argument for the likes of Duncan, KG, Shaq, Lebron etc. during Kobe's career. Personally, I think LBJ has been the best in the game for at least the last 5 yrs.

As someone stated, I think Lebron is better at every facet of basketball except for perimeter shooting.

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Not sure i would say he just

Not sure i would say he just started guarding the best player last year. I remember his first year in Miami against the MVP Derrick rose in the playoffs he absolutely locked down rose I think Rose was like 1-26 in the conference finals when lebron was on him and that was the MVP Derrick rose.
I think on the defensive side lebron is way to versatile to be compared Kobe who was only guarding guards for the most part. And I'm not saying lebron doesn't get lit up sometimes but I remember Gilbert putting 60 on the lakers in LA where was Kobe then ? Sorry it's just a game I remember watching on TV

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DOC

On Mike&Mike in the morning, Dr. J also said that Lebron is definitely one of the games best players ever and that when he's done, he would probably the best player of all time.

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I'd take an aggressive Kobe Bryant over a passive LeBron James any day...

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I'd take an aggressive Kobe Bryant over a passive LeBron James any day...

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Lebron might be the most

Lebron might be the most complete player in NBA history, over the last few years as I've seen people try to compare him to Michael I have begun to just ask, why? Kobe is the most comparable player to Jordan since Jordan left the league and that's not because I think Kobe is better than Lebron either. It's just the way Kobe plays, he shoots a lot more than Lebron, in his prime he was a great defender (9-time NBA 1st Team All Defense) and just has Jordan's attitude. However, there isn't a chance in hell that Jordan would ever have missed the playoffs in his prime, as Kobe did in 04-05 (on top of them barely scraping into the playoffs in 05-06 and 06-07 as 7 seeds). That's why Kobe isn't as good as Jordan and imo, isn't as good as Lebron if you want to compare them directly.

Apart from Lebron's first two seasons in the NBA, he's made the playoffs (and in his first season the Cavs doubled their wins from the previous season and in the 2nd season ended 42-40). Since Lebron has been 21, he's been in the playoffs and has never been eliminated in the 1st round (as Kobe was in 06 and 07, you could count this year but he didn't even play because of the injury), he's now a 5-time 1st Team All Defense, 4 MVPs in 5 seasons and quite easily the best player in the game. Lebron is also regarded as the best perimeter defender in the game and if the NBA Defensive Player of the Year wasn't now designated for post players, he'd have a damn good shot of winning it. Kobe has never been the widely accepted best player in the game that Lebron is, Kobe for years was regarded as a scorer who doesn't care about his teammates. There can be a good case made that he's not the best player drafted in the 1990's (Duncan, Shaq) while Lebron is the best player drafted in the 2000's and that's pretty much accepted at this point. So now the question who does Lebron best compare to because we all agree (or at least anyone with a basketball IQ) that Jordan/Lebron isn't a good comparison because they just play the game differently.

I think Lebron's best comparison in the history of basketball is Magic Johnson. Magic was 6'8'' 215 lbs, Lebron is 6'8'' 250 lbs, they could play so many positions on the floor (game 6 v Philly in 1980 when Magic had to play C with Kareem's injury and put up a 42-15 in Kareem's absence), they both have great court vision and their versatility really hurts defenses. They both can rebound, great handle, hell they both have iconic moments in their career in playoff games in Boston (Magic's skyhook in 87 and Lebron's 45-15 last year), they both won 3 MVPs in 4 years (Lebron did 4 in 5 just this past year) and they both have efficient FG% (Magic's 52%, Lebron's 49%). Now, Magic was a better passer (assists wise) and Lebron was a better scorer (points wise) but they both played in different NBAs. In Magic's time, it was more fast paced, more up and down, defenses weren't as good as they are today. But I think if we were looking for a better comparison, Magic would be the best historical comparison to Lebron and I still think Magic is ahead of him because of his accomplishments (5x Finals winner, 3x Finals MVP) but Lebron could get there and could become one of the greatest players in NBA history.

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Overrated. That’s the word

Overrated. That’s the word that’s followed Kobe Bryant throughout his career; and this season, the shoe fits. He’s been hailed by some as the third- or fourth-best player in the entire NBA, and me, I just don’t see it. He’s a very good, yet inefficient and selfish, offensive player, but an absolutely terrible defender.

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Ever since I typed this I

Ever since I typed this I never really feel like writing another response to this topic, so here it goes.
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