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- Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 10:18am #17107
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWho has a better future in terms of personal skill?
They both have potential to be the faces of their franchise (Dwight Howard is)
Can Bynum really be a 25-13 guy?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 10:21am #331583
Michael.S.ParticipantBynum has yet to stay for a full season, or even a good portion of a season. He has alot of injuries in his knees which is a big problem…If he can stay healthy for a season and play like he has in multi game stretches in the past, then we can answer this question
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 10:28am #331588
Raef LaFrentzParticipantBynum needs to prove that he can stay healthy before he can prove if he is the face of a franchise. That being said, he definitely has all of the physical tools to be the best big in the league. He already possesses more offensive polish that Dwight does, and when he stays out of foul trouble he can be a huge asset on the defensive end of the floor (same goes for Howard).
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 10:31am #331593
B-ball fanParticipantHe is quicker and more aggressive than Bynum (although Bynum would be more aggressive if not for Gasol). If he improves his offense, I think Howard could remain the league’s top center for a long time.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 10:36am #331597
DinoRadjaParticipantI think better question is who will have a better career Bynum or Bogut?
I think this is a topic where both sides could be argued legitly.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 10:50am #331602
sheltwon3ParticipantI think Bynum versus Howard is interesting because Bynum is already better in the low post and a better passer than Howard. Howard is more athletic and a better defensive player but the thing is Bynum did like 7 block on a bad knee so who knows where he is not considering he does not get a lot of touches now.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 10:50am #331604
sheltwon3ParticipantBynum also makes free throws so you can throw the ball to him late and if he gets fouled he should make his shots.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 10:51am #331605
Durantula-35ParticipantI like Andrew Bogut more. I’m not that big a fan of Bynum’s. The only thing that gives him an advantage is his height
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 10:56am #331608
Raef LaFrentzParticipantHmm.. Regardless of his height, Bynum has a ton of talent with and without the ball in his hands. He has a few very effective low-post moves and when he doesn’t have the ball he is extremely active on the offensive glass. Being able to rebound the ball offensively is a little more than just height, although height is a factor. This guy is strong and he knows how to use his body to get into position to grab offensive rebounds. Another factor that helps him in the rebounding category is his tremendous length.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 11:00am #331611
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantI think Bynum has very good hands, no homo.
If you watch him play, he keeps his hands stretched up as high as he can and he controls the ball with his fingertips so nobody else can get to it.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 11:04am #331613
Raef LaFrentzParticipantHe knows how to use his length very well. I’m not a Laker fan AT ALL, but it’s hard not to recognize Bynum’s skills. Improving his durability should be his biggest concern. If he can do that, watch out for him to put up 20-10 games night in and night out.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 11:08am #331612
sinister77ParticipantHoward is a far superior player. Bynum has length and his offensive moves are a bit more fluid but Howard is on a totally different level than this guy. Howard is always healthy and his defense is second to none. Bynum is nowhere near the perimeter or help defender as Howard. Teams plan their offense around Howard’s defense. Team’s plan their defense around Howard’s offense. The athlete Howard is Bynum couldn’t even dream to be so his ceiling for greatness is so much higher. Now that Howard is spending the entire summer with Hakeem Olajuwon I have a feeling his offensive game will be a bit better come next season as well.
I agree with the guy that said comparing Bynum and Bogut would be a better debate.
I realize this league judges a player’s worth on their offensive skill but defense is what wins championships.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 11:11am #331616
Michael.S.ParticipantI like Bogut better than Bynum. Bogut has a great post game too, maybe better than Bynum. He gets rebounds, blocks shots, can hit the short jumper and can take other bigmen off the dribble. He is one of the most versatile bigmen in the league
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 11:14am #331618
duhrant35ParticipantDwight Howard may not have the most fluid offensive game, and he is a poor free throw shooter, but he is the best defensive big man since the robinson/olajuwon days. He completely eliminate the paint against some teams (see the Bobcats series), and also plays great one on one defense (see the way he shut down garnetts post moves). Bynum has the superior length, but is not near the athlete that Howard is. Bynum has a long way to go to even be mentioned in the same breath as Dwight Howard.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 11:15am #331619
Raef LaFrentzParticipantAnother good point, mikenike. Bogut’s offense, although a little different than Bynum’s, is better; Mainly his ability to dribble with either hand to get by his defender. Both are very capable on the low block and comfortable shooting the ball out to 15 feet, but I feel that Bogut has the upper hand when facing the basket.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 11:21am #331623
Meditated StatesParticipantHe does use he length well in terms of altering shots. I like Howard more now and down the road. Howard did not have Kobe,Gasol.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 11:27am #331625
sheltwon3ParticipantI think some people on here are short changing Bynum. Lakers would have won game 4 if Bynum was a lil more healthy.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 11:28am #331626
sheltwon3ParticipantAlso I may get some knocks on me but a Healthy Bynum would be a better fit for the Orlando Magic then Howard despite Howard’s physical gifts.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 11:28am #331627
sheltwon3ParticipantI say this knowing that SVG limits what Howard does offensively.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 11:43am #331638
sinister77ParticipantBynum is not a great all around defender. He may get a ton of blocks in a game here and there but you look at the Magic starting lineup of Nelson, Carter and Lewis and without a player like Howard teams would score 150 points a night against them. The Magic are a top 3 defensive team in the league because of one player. If you take him off the team and replace him with Bynum I doubt they make the playoffs or 1st round exit easy.
I think Bynum is a great talent by the way.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 12:23pm #331649
MrAnalystBynum better for the Magic than Howard is absolutely insane. The Magic have the worst defense in the league if it was Bynum instead of Howard. They have 4 shooters out there and Howard single-handedly mans the paint. They don’t even need another big in when Howard is in, that’s how good he is at defense. I love Bynum and love his potential, and I think he could easily be a better offensive player, but Howard is just a straight freak of nature. 6’11 with them hops and athleticism has never been around in this world. EVER. Howard gets 23ppg on pure athleticism, if he had Bynum’s post game, he’d probably get 35 a game.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 12:42pm #331658
Meditated StatesParticipantNot like Howard though. Not now not down the road either.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 1:01pm #331669
pantherbball14Participantneither bynum or howard has any excellent post moves. both of them rely on size and strength and will never offensively dominate a game until they develop better moves in the post. Howard is a franchise player but is never relyed on in crunch time. And Bynum is on the most talented team in the entire league. Bynum will never be a 25 and 13 guy. Half the time he is on the floor it looks like he isnt even trying. Over all howard has more potential but neither will everbe able to dominate offensively.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 1:55pm #331698
joecheck88Participanti wish he could stay healthy because he has alot of offensive talent. i think bogut is a little better now but if bynum can stay healthy he could be the best offensive bigman in the league, imo. and bynum cleans up the boards well and is servicable on defense. i wish howard could hit more free throws and would keep the ball up like gasol and bynum on layups and dunks. he should be getting atleast 24 a game by now.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 3:18pm #331738
Tyreke JohnsonParticipantIf Bynum can stay healthy for a full season he can be very effective, injuries really have made his career rough. I give Dwight the edge with athleticism and quickness but Bynum has a much better post game, can rebound effectively and can pass decently for a big man due to playing in the Triangle. I like Bynum but he also needs to understand not to commit stupid fouls especially if he will be the face of the Franchise when Kobe is retired, because when he fouls early in games he needs to be taken out and he becomes utterly useless. I really like Bynum over Howard though.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 3:19pm #331740
FDAPOIf you’re ever going to compare these two, the only question is, is Howard superior to Bynum in every aspect of the game?
Boguts easily better as well
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 5:06pm #331808
sacphil_08ParticipantLook at it like this if they matched up 1 on 1 what would happen? Yes bynum has a bettter offensive game but alot of his looks are made easier because he plays with Kobe and pau. Bynum would have to work extremely hard probably harder than he’s capable to score on Dwight and offensively Dwight would just use athleticism. And the bynum in Orlando thing is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2010 - 5:24pm #331822
Bison 49ParticipantTwo main differences between the two:
Injuries are everything in the league, and avoiding them is only part luck, the other part is work and training. Staying injury free is a skill in itself. It is a skill just like free-throw shooting, and post moves. It is really difficult to compare players and disregard frequent injuries like a lot of people are saying.
Also, team situation is also huge.
Bynum rarely gets doubled up, Howard gets tons of double teams. Howard’s teammates get tons of rebounds and open shots because the other team blankets him. Imagine the number of putbacks and easy shots Howard would get playing for the Lakers. He might not get the same numbers with Gasol around, but the lakers would also keep the other team below 60 all the time. Bynum on the Magic might get better numbers, but the team might miss the playoffs.Bynum is very good, but Howard is a game changer that a team can build an offensive and defensive strategy around. howard is Batman, Bynum is Robin (when healthy). Both are very young.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/14/2010 - 6:04am #331996
Tobe BryantParticipantThe proper question for this debate would be if a HEALTHY Andrew Bynum was better than Dwight Howard. In all honesty, this debate can fo both ways
When you observe Bynum, it’s obvious that he is a far superior player
offensively than Howard. He also has a higher IQ than Howard with better passing skills and ability
to avoid senseless fouls on the offensive and defensive ends. He uses his length beautifully on offense to get
easy buckets, offensive rebounds, and makes the defense respects him. On defense he gives the Lakers a food rebounding edge and can be a disruptive force to the opposition. I say give
me Bynum any day when healthy.0 - AuthorPosts
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