Is it Casuality or Causality that the raptors have been playing better since he got injured?
I believe they should try to trade him before the deadline, it is pretty obvious there doing better with out him and Dwayne Casey is a defensive coach and could use some other assets on his team.
You believe he should be traded?
Yes, along with everyone else for the past several months as his name is the most often mentioned when it comes to trade rumors and most of the basketball world believes he will be traded.
Trade him to the Spurs (Greedy), for tiago splitter or Dejuan Blair?,
Coach pop would grind him everyday, the spurs have the assets to turn a player into a good player, andrea has the skill set to play like bonner, lol
although bonner is more efficient,
he has very little value, he is making $10 million a year and he is not worth any where near that, so they will have fun trying to trade him. I think he could excel as a sixth man on a team, but the money is an issue, which is why I have no idea if any team would trade for him.
does this trade makes sense?
Spurs - they would have Andrea that could replace what bonner is doing, Andrea can shoot threes and would be motivated by coach pop to do more, and replacing Splitters defense would be Ed Davis, i see great potential in him and he is not being utilize by the raptors more to develop,
Raptors- Getting Splitters defense and Bonners Range also with the play making of Diaw, this team could improve, they could play valanciunas with more minutes, pair him up with either splitter and Diaw
The point of trading Bargnani is to get Ed to play more and start. He's been starting and has actually been doing pretty well and suprisingly they're winning. So I dont think they would give up Ed especially if all they are getting back is splitter, bonner and diaw.
sorry, haven't been watching a raptor game, i made that trade because i want Ed davis to be backing up timmy, I really think Ed davis is an exceptional player,
Look at Barg's 3P% for the last three years. It is about 32%. That is okay, but it isn't really at the level of the other stretch fours (e.g., Novak is shooting about 48% from three over last three years.) So you can't really even say he is a 3-point shooter. It is not coincidence that the Raptors are winning. Bargs is like an anchor on that team. Now they can finally swim. Even the dumb GMs have probably figured this out. So Bargs is untreadable. Suggesting that the Spurs would take him and play him is a joke. The Raptors should just buy him out. Offer him $15 million to just go away. He can go back to Europe and get another contract.
You can't really compare Bargnani's and Novak's percentages because of their roles they've been playing. Bargnani has been the #1 option for Toronto and has had the defense focus on him especially last year when he averaged 23ppg pre-injury while Novak has had the role as a spot up shooter with defenses focusing on other guys. Novak for sure is probably a better shooter but you can't just look at percentages you also gotta factor in their roles on the teams because that affects their percentages. Bargnani imo is not untradeable his value is low right now but i'm sure a contender wouldn't mind having a 7 footer off the bench or starting (paired with a defensive big) who can spread the floor.
Too bad Amare would never play in Toronto, because I think a Bargs/Amare swap would really benefit both teams and their contracts would balance out somewhat. Toronto could use a legit #1 scoring option, and I think Bargs could be a really good 6th or 7th man in New York.
Despite how good Bargs has been for the Raps, I really don't see him as a starter for a lot of teams. I think he could play a Toni Kukoc type role for a lot of really good teams. The Knicks being one.
Because what the Knicks need is more offense/less defense lol
That would be funny two years ago.
The Knicks are an above average defensive team under Woodson, 14th out of 30 to be exact. They're not the same D'Antoni squad that is just awful defending the ball. They let Melo play a lot of isolation and surrounding a guy like that with shooters has worked very well for the Knicks, this season. Playing Bargs in a bench role, would just be adding more fire to their arsenal. Their backup F/C is 38 years old and shoots 38% from the feild. If Bargs were playing the same role as Rasheed Wallace the Knicks would have the best 6th/7th man combo in the entire league. By a long shot.
Your previous statement was an Amare/Bargnani swap, so how does that replace Rasheed Wallace?
I understand that the Knicks have become a better team defensively, and that's what has kept them in the W column. However, adding a well below average defensive player to a team that already has the ability to score 100+ points a night isn't going to help. Amare has a greater defensive presence than Bargnani is what it basically boils down to, and that's what is going to keep this team on the winning side of things.
Bargs is better, so it would be an immediate upgrade and he would play minutes Wallace used to. Amare has played 0 games this season, so their backup F/C is Rasheed Wallace.
It was just a hypothetic anyways, as I indicated, Amare would never approve a trade to send him to Toronto, but they Knicks are getting it done without Amare or Bargs. I think Amare would bog down their offense, as he has done in the past, while I think a guy like Bargs would step in more easily.
I'm sorry - I was saying all of this with the notion that the starting lineup would remain, and Amare (when and if he returned) would be coming off of the bench. Probably should have mentioned that. Therefore Wallace would be replaced by Amare, also allowing Amare to excel offensively as the go to guy with the second rotation. I see what you're getting at now.
No need to be sorry, it's all good. Regardless, I think Barg's next career move should be coming off the bench for someone. He was a good #2 to Chris Bosh, but he's not a true 1st option and I think he could be a really nice player coming off the bench for a 50 win team and dropping 13 or 14 ppg in 25-30 mpg.
It always worries me when a guy is 7-0 255 lb's, plays over 30 minutes a game and averages under five rebounds a game. I get it that he is an outside player but so is Kevin Love to a point and Dirk and they both rebound the hell out of the ball.