[Charlie SheenParticipant]

 Say 1 of the big 3 get the amnesty used on them knocking 15-16mil off the books

This puts Miami about 8-10mil under the cap

Then Miami uses that money to sign say Nene

Re-sign 1 of the big 3 for the minimum

Re-up Chalmers

and use the MLE on Jamal Crawford

Then say Haywood gets waived by Dallas since he has a nasty deal, then Miami grabs him since he’ll still be getting paid and he may want to win another ring

They’d have a core of

Dwyane Wade

LeBron James

Chris Bosh

Nene

Jamal Crawford

Mike Miller

Udonis Haslem

Mario Chalmers

Brendan Haywood

Norris Cole

All this by perfectly executing the amnesty clause

Hopefully there is a provision saying the player cant re-sign with its team for 30 days after being waived like it usually is but this could be a problem

[bobbybParticipant]

if they use  an Amnesty clause that means they will lose one of their big 3

[llperez]

i would hope the nba is smart enough to forsee teams misusing the amnesty clause to cut a guy then re-sign him for like league min then use the avaiable free salary space to sign more players. I think it should be a full year or 2 even before an amnesty cut could return to that team. 2 years would elminiate the possibility of a player signing a 1 year deal somewhere else with full intentions of returning simply so the team could have saved some money while only losing the guy for a season.

[bobbybParticipant]

i agree perez because one of the issues with the CBA is that it was too favorable to big market teams, small markets will not let this occur

[fastdanParticipant]

If they used the amnesty on, say Bosh, they could not re-sign him until his contract would have been finished…so they would have to wait 5 more seasons. And amnestied players would not just be able to choose which team they would want to go to, they would go through the waiver system, and I’m sure there would be plenty of teams looking to get Dampier for cheap.

So no, none of that is happening, so it is not a problem.

[OMARtheLEGENDParticipant]

Be real neither Lebron, Dwade or Bosh will sign for the league minimum you moron. Lets not forget that at the end of the day its about getting paid, and those three wont sacrifice that much for wins.

[Charlie SheenParticipant]

It was a thought the point is we already seen the big 3 beat the system in a way and I was thinking LeBron’s evil tactics would lead to something of this sort anyway, and why would they not sign for the minimum when they’d still get the money their owed, lastly thanks fastdan for clearing it up

[NashyMingParticipant]

Teams can’t sign the player they amnestied for the duration of the contract (e.g. if Heat cut Bosh, Heat can’t sign Bosh for the next 5 years).  Nothing to discuss really.

[JaeEvolutionParticipant]

Yeah none of that is happening, also I read that players waived via amnesty can only be gotten by teams UNDER the salary cap, is this true? It would make a lot of sense for the whole ‘comptetitive balance’ nonsense…

[Toronto16Participant]

 Sigh… For the last time, a team CAN NOT sign a player they’ve waived via the amnesty clause.

[HitsterParticipant]

Thanks for clearing that up NashMingy and Churchboy, I think we all became a bit too clever in thinking that Bosh, Billups,KG etc could be waived and then return to a team like say Brent Barry, McDyess and Big Z all did after being traded. I’d assume that the Amnesty clause would state just that a player cannot return for the duration of his remaining contract or words to that effect.

But on the flip side it may well throw up some nice free agents for example Rashard Lewis,Arenas even Roy etc who for their current salaries are of no interest to any teams but for veteran’s minimum up to MLE, I’m sure some contenders would look at them. Brendan Haywood as mentioned above with Dallas subsidising his contract would be of interest to teams for a nominal salary and you might even see teams waiving one player then resigning another waived player. Lets say Dallas waived Haywood and Charlotte waived Diop, it might be possible that he could return to Dallas for a third stint.

[TallmanNYCParticipant]

 The other thing that you assumed is that when a star got waived, that it would resign for the minimum with the same team instead of going with another team offering them another max level contract. Bosh may not be a great fit for the Heat,but if he were suddenly on the market he would get many offers that are much higher than the minimum. The waiving team would have to have at least a hand shake deal with the star getting waived that he would resign for a discount and the league would not allow that. It is just like the league does not allow teams to have "deals" with stars like, you take a discount now (to avoid salary cap issues) and when you retire, we will hire you as million dollar assistant coach or scout (which doesn’t count against the cap). 

I think the only players who are going to get amnestied are guys who just can’t contribute in a meaningful way to a current NBA team. Arenas might be an example (he is a scorer who shot 37% last season and 41% the season before, those are the type of numbers that lose you games every time he takes a shot, unless he gets better than last year he will not be someone you can keep on the floor for any significant period of time and have any shot of winning the game). But Rashard is simply overpaid; he still gives you value. So I don’t think he is an amnesty candidate.  

 

[TyroberParticipant]

 Lets clear this up. A team can not amnesty a player and then resign him for obvious reasons. Also the player that has the amnesty clause used on him does not get paid ANY extra. His new salary on his new team is deducted from what his previous team owes him. They will only get the amount of their current contract. Nothing more.

[Scottoant93Participant]

Mike Miller is being waived, so delete him from your roster, also im sure there is a clause where you can’t resign the player you used the amnesty clause on, remember the main thing was to help the little teams, not make even worse for them.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

 Players who get amnestied go through a waiver process where teams can claim all or part of the amnestied player’s contract. No true stars are being waived. Please stop with these ideas.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

…Lets hope that there aren’t any loopholes for Big Market Teams to exploit..

[HitsterParticipant]

Lewis is owed $45 million aprox over the next two years but Washington are under cap so waiving him may not make a whole lot of sense unless any new contract was offset against his current one as suggested above. Arenas on the other hand if he was waived could save Orlando a large amount of luxury tax this year and perhaps next year depending on what Dwight Howard does.

I think this amnesty may perhaps only beneft teams who are over the tax level. It would be ironic if the Lakers decided to waive Union President Derek Fisher.

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