[The GoatParticipant]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybv28739

Cavs get DeAndre Jordan and Carmelo Anthony
Clips get Tristan Thompson, Jae Crowder and Ante Zizic
Thunder get Kevin Love and Jawun Evans

Reasons should be clear why each team needs to make a move. I think the rosters end up more balanced for each team.

Cavs –
IT Smith LeBron Melo Jordan
Rose Wade Korver Green Frye

Clips –
Teodosic Beverley Gallinari Griffin Thompson
Rivers Williams Crowder Harrell Zizic

Thunder-
Westbrook Roberson George Love Adams
Evans/Felton Huestis Abrines Grant Patterson

Yeah/Nah? What you think?

Any other ideas out there prior to the deadline?

[Anton123Participant]

I’m sure the Clips would want some good young pieces (Ante Zizic isn’t looking quite good enough) or some picks for DeAndre Jordan. They really have little need for Crowder and Thompson, both of whose values are super low right now. So this trade seems to be making the Clippers worse right now and moving forward.

Throw in the Brooklyn pick to the Mavs, and then I think the trade is fair, but I don’t think the Cavs would do it then, they don’t have enough confidence in LeBron staying.

All that said, I don’t think the trade solves problems much for any of the teams except, perhaps, the Thunder. The Cavs defense with IT, LeBron, Melo, and Smith taking every second play off would still look terrible, and Melo would basically be a worse version of Love on offense (more silly shots, lower FG%). Love could fit into the Thunder’s offense pretty well, but I just don’t view him hardly enough to think he can make them a contender.

 

 

 

[The GoatParticipant]

 TT is 26, Crowder is 27. DeAndre is soon a  free agent. I’m not sure there are many deals out there for the Clips. I think they risk getting no return for Jordan. If they know he’ll re-sign, different story. The Cavs may not get better but I think they need to make a move. Another scorer and a defensive anchor may work. Another banana boater (Melo, who really isn’t fitting in where he is) may be good for comaraderie even if his play isn’t at the same level as Love’s right now. DJ gives you a better version of what TT has provided. Crowder isn’t fitting in and needs a change. Love to the Thunder gives Russ his UCLA buddy and PG another LA guy. He’s a better fit than Melo, cos he naturally plays the catch and shoot 4 man role they are asking Melo to play. No one gets the Brooklyn pick as no one is getting paid unders in the deal. Cavs keep it as a safety net if LeBron and or DJ and or IT leave.  

[holefillers1Participant]

 This is a good trade for the Cavs.  Thunder dont get better defensively and Love tends to float out to the perimeter when he is not a first option.  I can’t see the Clips trading away that talent for players who dont work in Cleveland’s system.  

 

Seems like you tried to center a trade around making Cleveland better.  I dont see how any of the other teams win.  The Cavs have Portland’s 2018 1st rd pick.  They could throw that in the mix.

 

 

 

[CynthiaParticipant]

It’s not bad.

Cavs get some inside presence and defense that they drastically need. Anthony isn’t an upgrade but more of a side grade to Love (who hasn’t been that amazing in Cleveland to be honest). Also it makes for 3/4 of the banana boat crew…now only CP3 is left.

Clippers get some decent young pieces so they can begin their much needed rebuild. They gave it a good run for many years but just couldn’t stay healthy. Crowder is 27 and beginning to enter his prime, he was a great player in Boston but hasn’t fit at all in Cleveland, time for a change of scenery already. Tristan Thompson believe it or not is still only 26, even though it feels like he’s been around for two decades. Zizic isn’t amazing, but he’s a toss in here.

OKC gets to reunite Westbrook & Love (played at UCLA together). Which might be enough to get Love back to his Minnesota days of play. Jawun Evans is pretty much just a toss in, but I like it because he’s a local kid from Oklahoma State Univ.

All in all, I don’t think it massively improves any of these teams, but I think the potential for improvement is there. So why not give it a try?

[XYRYXParticipant]

That’s actually an trade idea I like in genral. Just yesterday I tried the trade machine to see if I could form a Melo trade to the Blazers, who are potentially one of very few teams who would trade for Melo. I couldn’t find anything at all cause he is going to make 27 million and threw the idea away. 

To be honest I really like the trade for the Thunder. I think the Thunder not only have an identity problem because of Melo and PGs personalities or their egos, the Thunder really transformed from a tough and rebounding team into ‚modern‘ shooting team or at least they tried to go this way. Kanters defense is well known but he plays tough and they always have been an elite rebounding team until now and they suffer from that really hard. Love would keep them in the shooting pf mode but he clearly is a much better rebounder and should work very well alongside Adams not to mention both can set pretty good screens in the pnr. 

I don’t really know if the Clippers receive what they want but I still like Crowder and his contract very much and there could be picks handed over as well. I think the Cavs should not overthink the whole LeBron might leave thing too much cause it can’t really be that they are afraid to make moves now to improve cause he might go if it’s not working out and on the other hand he for sure will go if they implode without any moves being made. As I said before I like the backbone of this trade and it could still being sweetened in different directions for all teams included.  

[cominup7Participant]

 No way Cavs get Melo AND DJ without throwing in that 1st rd pick

[The GoatParticipant]

 Why? I think Love is worth more than Melo and I think TT and Crowder is about on par for DJ. Who would be getting the pick?

[SmooveKRYPTParticipant]

Clippers have to in this scenario.

[HitsterParticipant]

For such a big deal and involving so many big players, it actually looks okay so +1 from me.

If Jordan could walk for nothing this summer, the Clippers at least get something back. They may have reservations on taking on TT’s deal as it has two years left worth $36 million combined after this year but Zizic and Crowder would appeal to them. If you think TT is as good as any likely FA big they could get then it is a good deal for them.

Thunder swap Melo for K-Love who is over 4 years younger and has a guaranteed year on his deal after this season and widens contending window for them.

Melo would need to waive his trade clause again but with chance to link up with LBJ, I don’t see this being an issue. The risk could be on Cavs side if Jordan decided to walk in FA and even more in LBJ did and working cap around LBJ, Jordan and IT’s deals if Melo opted in which he would likely do would be hard too.

[The GoatParticipant]

 Just for the record, I don’t support any of the teams. I was just looking for something realistic thinking Cleveland need to try something. Melo’s relationship with Bron and Wade was in my mind. Love and TT were the only two real pieces the Cavs can trade. I thought Love would be a better fit on the Thunder considering the talk how they want Melo to be a catch and shoot threat as a 3rd option. 

I added the Clips cos I think they are motivated to move DJ. I personally wouldn’t take TT and Crowder as my first choice as a return, but I don’t see them realistically fetching much more. They would be getting Crowder cheap at this point. 

I see the Cavs are getting two name players but I don’t think Melo or DJ are being acquired unfairly in this deal, so I can’t see who would be entitled to the Brooklyn pick out of the Thunder or Clips in this trade. 

I don’t know that there is a trade out there that puts the Cavs over the top – unless they fleece someone. I’m not sure you get a bigger return for DeAndre. I don’t think there are many suitors for Melo and putting a better fit with PG, another LA guy, may convince him to stay. So, that was the thinking behind it. 

 

 

 

[Game760Participant]

 No way I trade away DJ without getting the nets pick ..everyone wins but clippers and TT is horrible and Crowder is not better than Wesley Johnson at this point.Also Beverly is out for the year in Your lineups.Clippers have made back into playoff run and I don’t see them giving anyone away.But would be nice for Tristan to be home with Khloe and Blake is with the other one Kendall..make the Kardashian’s happy.

[Andv1 WaitingParticipant]

 If the Cavs can at least keep the Brooklyn pick out of it and maybe chuck their own pick instead I could see it working for all involved.

This is under the assumption the Nets pick is kept out of all deals or at least the right to swap picks(like 76ers did with Kings this year -76ers got 5th and Kings got 3rd and they activated the rights to switch).

 

However it mainly depends on varying factors: 
Cavs win 

As D.J can walk if it doesn’t work out.

They move Tristans average deal.

The Gain Melo who can bail also or possibly convince lebron to stay possibly..CP3= Team banna boat like they have always wanted…

The unload Kevin loves deal if lebron bails again..

Clippers win as:

The get a sf on a cheap deal in Crowder who is more durable than Danilo and has played for Rivers(if I remember right)

They get a replacement for D.J if he had no intention to resign…

The get another pick in the first round which they could either package to trade a player or package with their own to move up possibly..Or help speed up the rebuild if they lose most of their team

The only way they lose is if D.J leaving upsets Blake…

OKC:

Getting Kevin love helps  either a) soften the blow if PG leaves or may convince PG to stay if they believe that they just need to round that bench out then they could contend sort of vibe..

Helps get a little younger and more security in Love vs Melo + I think they have said Russ and love want to play together at some point…Adams would also be a nice beside love…

The only catch is if Melo really starts to get his role and we start winning/rolling into the playoffs..Or if PG and Russ like Melo more.

However my guess is  the person that will hold all of this up will be Lebron or if the Nets pick has to be involved…

Short term all win longterm is dependent on who stays around after the trades..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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