Adi Joseph's SAC Draft Grade?
I'm mystified by the grade that a usually sharp Adi Joseph gave to Sacramento. He gave them a C-, the same rating he gave the Lakers, who essentially picked up nobody in the draft. Are you kidding?
Here are the 3 players selected by Sacramento and my comments.
(4th) Tyreke Evans - He could evolve into an All Star.
(23rd) Omri Casspi - He might become an outstanding small forward.
(38th) Jon Brockman - A poor man's version of Paul Milsap who should be an excellent role player coming off the bench for 10-15 minutes per game and providing the kind of rebounding boost Sacramento needs. Brockman wasn't too shabby for the 38th pick.
With those 3 players above, how could anyone give Sacramento the same grade as the Lakers?
I would give Sacramento an A minus.
i agree, the kings are being treated unfairly by draft critics. i think evans has the potential to be an all star as well, and is definitely in the running for rookie of the year based alone on minutes. the passing on rubio pretty much caused everyone to look down on the kings. from what i've heard, if evans was unavailable, the kings would have taken flynn over rubio. assistant gm jason levien has an eye for european talent (ie peja, hedo) and it says a lot by not taking rubio.
I'm not big on T. Evans as a point guard, however, he's an incredible talent. I think he will be a big time shooting guard. Casspri has a good chance to eventually become a starting small forward. And while I'm not big on Brockman, he could give them 10-12 minutes per game off the bench.
In sharp contrast, LA essentially got nothing out of the draft so why give them the same grade?
I completely agree with you
No no no. Im a kings fan and they were terrible. Evans at 4. Why? He's not an NBA point guard. Not taking Blair at 23 or 32 then trading JP for Brockman was terrible though I like Brockman. Casspi is a foreign project who may never be slightly like Hedo or Peja because he doesn't shoot as well as them at all. The Kings deserve no better than a C.
LA couldn't draft anyone because they don't have open roster spots, so instead they got money.
Keep in mind that in the Brockman trade they got Sergio Rodriguez as well. Brockman is as tough as anyone in this draft and that was something the Kings were missing. I thought they would go with Rubio if for nothing else that he would sell tickets. But Evans might end up being the better player. Also, any pg who plays alongside KMart had better be able to defend, and Evans should be a solid defensive player. The Kings are gonna stink regardless, but it looks like they are laying the ground work for climbing back up.
Also, I have'nt been to Sac for a few weeks, what are the radios and fans saying about the draft?
Passing over Rubio is a collosal mistake. Tickets, entertainment, national coverage, really pretty suprised the didn't take him. Evans went from being about 12th pick to being the 4th in a month because he could beat johnny flynn ty lawson and jru holiday one-on-one. In the words of one sactown scout "evans was a man amongst boys"- it is easy to look this way when your a half foot taller than the person your playing one-on-one. Especially for point guards, one on one skills mean very little.
Tyreke Evans style of play will make him a career loser. At best he is Jamal Crawford a player who has killed many talented would-be playoff teams. I doubt he makes any all-star teams but I guess I could possibly seeing him becoming an all-star with 20-5-5 shooting 38% on a lottery team. Evans will never be a major player on winning team. He is a not a good passer and does not make his teammates better. I'm not completely against Evans but taking him over Rubio or Curry is a very poor decision. Sactown has somehow replaced the clippers as the most inept CA franchise.
I don't know much about Caspri so I will keep my mouth shut there, but there were some pretty talented players still falling that could have helped, if not started, for this sad sack of a team this year.
At 31 they drafted a poor man's Dejuan Blair in Jon Brockman.(essentially the pick due to the trade of jp for brockman) Brockman won't be in the nba within 2 years and frankly I'd be suprised if he even makes the team this year. Really over Blair, young, and Budinger for a 2nd round contract?
While they did get some talent, they probably made the biggest mistakes in draft (with their only possible challenger being the timberwolves) and I would have given them somewhere between a D and F for making the clearly wrong selection in every pick they had.
Congratulations, Sacramento fans on having the highest chance at getting John Wall.
Have you ever even seen Tyreke play? Evans is a PG and a very good one. Evans was the best PG in the draft. Trading Pendergraph for Brockman & Rodriguez was a good deal too. Plus Casspi was top 3 international prospect in the draft and the KIngs got him at the end of the 1st round, that was another quality pick.
yea I watched his beautiful assist-to ratio, probably the best thing to evaluate a pg by. having as many turnovers as assists in college level usually translates into pro sucess as a pg.
I don't dislike Evans. I think he will put up some numbers, but taking him over Rubio is insane.
I still don't understand why some of you are rating the Sacramento draft so low. Let's look at how much they added and the fact that they will no longer be an NBA doormat.
1. Tyreke Evans could become a scoring machine.
2. Casspri might eventually turn into their starting small forward.
3. S. Rodriguez [trade] could turn into an outstanding point guard now that he's away from the limitations placed upon him in Portland.
4. Nobody's saying Jon Brockman's another Paul Milsap. But on the other hand, he could be a decent role player. He's a guy who can provide rebounding off the bench, which every team can use.
OK, let's summarize the above. Sacramento came out of this draft with 2 or 3 potential starters plus a possible role player. How many teams can say they have 4 new players that totally change the dynamics of their team?
Once again, I think they deserve an A minus as Sacramento will no longer be the worst team in the league. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see them make a run for the playoffs [7 or 8?]
I think Sac had a very good draft. But make the playoffs...? Not even Kings fans believe that. Kobe Bryant would have trouble getting that team to the playoofs, so I don't think Evans and Cassppi are gonna do it.
can't pass on Rubio at 4 by far the best point in the draft and a he fell into ur laps like a present, and u didnt take him
Rubio isn't better than Tyreke Evans right now.....that is why the Kings didn't pick Rubio....Maybe in 5 years Rubio will be better but even then I doubt it. Evans is stronger, more athletic, bigger, longer, quicker, better defender, etc..... Trust Me Minnesota was praying Evans fell to them.
but not this time Kahn said he simply couldnt pass on Rubio because he never even imagined Rubio would STILL be there, and he said he's the best passer ever and he's willin to wait 2 years 4 him
Evans is a 6'7 scoring shooting guard and all they needed was a great point in Rubio and they pulled off the dumbest move in the draft in years
Hey llperez22, you are probably right. On 2nd thought, maybe I went slightly too far with the playoff competition statement but I wouldn't be surprised if they compete for the 8th spot.
It's important to realize that SAC completely changed the dynamics of their team with 4 new players [when you include Sergio Rodriguez], so they are definitely on an upswing. In my opinion, that was a terrific draft day accomplishment. IMHO, very few teams can make that same statement.
mikenike....of course Kahn is going to say that.....Evans absolutely dominated in his workout with the TWolves. His was very high on their draft board. Evans is 6'5" by the way not 6'7....he is also a PG not a SG. Evans is great leading a team with the ball in his hands. He lead Memphis to thirty-somethin wins with not much help. What Evans did at Memphis was equally as impressive as what Rose did. Rose had Dorsey & DouglasRoberts. Anyways I like Rubio too and he would've been a good pick but you can't say Evans was a bad pick that is just stupid. The only thing Rubio does right now better than Evans is pass.
I'm not a Kings fan, but after living in Sac for 7 years, I have grown kinda fond of them. I wish them the best as a franchise and hope they can get an arena deal done. They definitely seem to be going about the rebuilding process the right way (except the huge contract to Beno which I said was dumb from the get go). But it will take them awhile before they compete for the playoffs imo. Hopefully the radio guys are more realistic going into this year, because I remember prior to last season they were talking about 45 wins, and then some caller called in and said 20-25 wins, and they absolutely ripped hiim apart. They look reall stupid in hindsight.
The grades were based entirely on what a team did with the picks it had. So even though obviously Sacramento got higher quality players with its three picks than Houston did with its three, Houston managed to come up with three excellent players drafted well after when they should have been.
Sacramento made a mistake, in my estimation, in passing on Rubio. Considering Aran Smith and I both rate Evans outside the top 10, taking him fourth is going to hurt your grade significantly.
In addition, passing on Blair at No. 31 was poor. But I do like Brockman - not nearly as much as Blair, but still - and Casspi.
Adi, thanks for giving us additional feedback on your thought process.
As for selecting Evans over Rubio, it may sound bad on the surface, but apparently Sacramento felt Rubio's buyout problems and the doubts on how successful he might be in the NBA were a big question mark. In the end, they obviously felt Evans was a safer choice. I personally would have gone with Rubio, but I think Evans will be a scoring machine at the 2 position which should make him an excellent choice.
You are right about SAC passing on D. Blair. However, if you're going to use that logic, then you should downgrade each team's draft rating because every single GM in the league passed on D. Blair.
In the end, I think you have to ask yourself where SAC was before and after the draft and then apply an appropriate grade. Prior to the draft they were the NBA doormat, going downhill rapidly.
After the draft, they have 3 new potential starters plus a decent role player coming off the bench who can provide toughness and rebounding. SAC changed the direction of the franchise as they're no longer sinking to the bottom. They're actually making significant progress as team dynamics have shifted dramatically towards the positive side.
In my opinion, even with the mistakes you pointed out, they still came out of the draft much better off than where they started. There are a number of teams who truly deserve a C minus or a D, but SAC isn't one of them.
By the way, IMHO, Harden is slightly overrated and T. Evans will turn into a better professional.