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Three pointers did not count. you little smart asses. Think about what you say before you say it juveniles.

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ummm

thats what he said, a difference between the game back then and today is the three point line..

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I'm a 15 yr old

but if you honestly are going to say you watched and played basketball at age four...seriously...
You probably didn't understand the game because I know when I said I had just begun playing the game during the Lakers 3 peat that started early this decade I didn't know what I was doing. I just knew to make the ball go into the hoop. :-) No kid, unless some type of prodigee can understand the game at such a young age. Most kids rather go play in dirt or a playground then stand around shooting or being told how the game works unless forced.

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youngsters

can be very inteligent about basketball. But if you actually watch it and educate yourselves, then you only become more knowledgable as you see more and from different eras. If you guys don't think basketball was any different in the 70's or 80's, then that shows how little you know. Personally, I think the game keeps evolving and getting better overall. Guys from the past raised the bar for guys today and the trend will only continue. Athleticism is at a whole nother level.

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Ur 30 years old and u are crying over this...........get a life

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j1232e

Hey dickface shutup. Who really cares about your stupid remarks. This is a NBA DRAFT forum not a 30 year old cry baby saying he doesnt want to talk about basketball with teenagers. Age doesnt matter. Probably the best player in the game right now is 24. But he sure doesnt know as much about basketball as the 30 year olds.

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No kidding man..

The game has certainly evolved..the refs call everything much more tightly, and its much more of a perimeter oriented game than it was back in the day..I do think though, that players were better shooters back then, because they practiced much more on that..But they also seemed to be MUCH worse at dribbling, thats all I usually think about when I watch a classic game is how high all the players are dribbling

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HAHA good point I guess LeBron is an idiot when it comes to b-ball knowledge lol..and don't even say the best player is kobe, he has sooo much better players and coaches around him..It's incredible LeBron lead his team to that many regular season wins, without him they would be the worst team in the league

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this is a retarded argument

This is stupid and pointless. As long as kids use correct grammer, don't spit out verbatum of the espn analysts, and can concepualize an argument - I'm good. This whole thing is just proving the point how this site is being detered away from basketball, and the draft in general. This stuff is nothing to be bragging about unless you are posting with Jessica Alba under you desks....so stop with how long you've been watching, reading, don't give a crap, Rainman was a genius at counting that doesn't mean I would trust him with my stocks.

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I'm 18 and have been

I'm 18 and have been studying drafts since 2003. Don't hate, appreciate.

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HAHA

wish i could give you 100 points stoppre1213, and yes, jessica alba is indeed under my desk at this very moment

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Er...

do us "youngsters" have to start....saying names? I'm not trying to suck up, but...it's just his opinion. It's how the older people think about us just like most of us think of little kids. Annoying and stupid to talk to. They just don't like the fact that some people actually post like 7 things about JOHNFREAKINGBRYANT! Well, I guess i'm done with my opinion on this matter and hopefully the forums actually will improve after this and people won't be so quick to post up the most ignorant ideas. Seriously...T-Will destroying LBJ??? That's...like Kobe being destroyed by Jodie Meeks.

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HAHA T-Will

yeah i saw that, i dont think that dude was being serious, he was just messing with you all..at least i hope so lol

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Now maturity

really proves it self. All I was saying is 65% of you all don't no nothing about the game. You all can critisize me about being old (30) But I have more knowledge than 95% of you underage punks. I respects the other half. Lets talk NBA and the draft rather than. Tell me i am 15 and smarter basketball knowledge than you talk. Cause you have NO CHANCE!

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guys it's not about age.

guys it's not about age. when i was age 9, i could literally name EVERY player in the NBA. I was a legend in third grade because when i would go to my cousin's house, i would impress all his friends by naming the whole rosters of teams. I am now 19 years old, and although I go on nbadraft.net and basketball-reference a fair amount, I'd say that I watched more and knew more about the current NBA when I was 9. Don't discriminate based on age; just because someone makes a dumb comment, doesn't mean they're young. It just means they don't have a high basketball iq.

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Strong point storm

I grew up and could name any player and were the went to college! Still can. I am sorry about this whole thing. I also think younger people should listen to their elder when it comes down to knowledgre!

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Read the first page Storm

Exactly what I was trying to tell them earlier..B-ball IQ and fully understanding and appreciating the game has nothing to do with the players and stats you know

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that's what I was saying on the other page j1232e..

I'm sorry if you did not understand what I meant

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Im 7 and i love basketball

Im 7 and i love basketball

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seriously, the reason why

seriously, the reason why everyone knows you're kids is because you you try to make up for it by saying something stupid like this:

Im 14, but i think i'm very knowledgable.................

It's stupid. I'm sure you are all very knowlegable, but coming here and going on hoopsworld doesn't make you savvy. It's truely IMPOSSIBLE for you to know close to as much as a 30 year old man who's been doing the same thing as you for as long as you. And also Youtube doesn't count as knowing all the up and coming players. I'm sure you look at the next years mock and say "hm, i guess i'll haveto youtube this guy because THEY say he's good. Which gets me to my main point. The difference between truely mature users and i would say anyone from 17 down is thinking for yourself. YOu have to be visionary, but not stupid. The single thing that makes you "knowlegable" about basketball is not reading/watching youtube videos, it's watching the game of basketball in it's entirety. And I'm guessing none of you even watched a whole game while you were sitting on the bench of the eighth grade team. So minus me all you want young people, but it doesnt change thefact that no matter what you may argue or complain, you are not experts, you're sponges.

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boffacheerios

you are well beyond your age my man..and its Poopsworld, not Hoopsworld lol

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boffacheriios

i dont think these childen respect the game. They are all about rubio should be number 1 because of WHAT!

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Rubio should be the #1 pick..

If this draft didn't have Blake Griffin in it lol

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CHILDREN

lets all calm down and talk about the nba and the draft!

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yer mate what you still

yer mate what you still live at home and work at mcdonals and get off over basketball players .. your awesome

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ah the children

instead of immdiately being dicks to all the kids on here and attacking them why not maybe teach them some of this so called "basketball knowledge" that your so full of. I really think its pathetic that your complaining. This is a site for people who are interested in learning and dicussing information. Just because you think people dont know as much as you because of their age doesnt mean you should ruin it for them. Just try to enjoy the site and make it better for everyone. If you were so mature and intelligent you would probably already know to do that though...

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Good point

I have a little respect for a couple, All I am saying is mature older people have no reason for being on this site anymore, because little kids will always say we are wrong and they are right. That is what I am trying to point out.

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well i conced however

even though one i will admit you just got smashed by a kid so not all of us are that dumb ; ) i will admit though we are very biased with our opinions and only look for players we like and can be very immature when it comes to looking at players especially if there not as flashy however atleast i would like to admit that i always look up to older people for knowledge especially since i pretty much learned everything i know about basketball and life from my father all i know is i just really love this site and really spend way to much time on here and i just find it interesting know matter how much we all learn and discover every year theres a new season and so much more out there to enjoy and this is why i love the world of professional sports and all of the things that are involved in it especially drafts

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I believe age matters in the

I believe age matters in the requirement, it's impossible to say age doesn't matter because the older people have seen the legends. I've heard people talk glorious things about michael jordan, yet they never actually saw him play. if you've never seen a guy play, you're only talking about biased information.

on top of that, i've seen somebody compare blake griffin to charles barkley, despite being too young to remember actually watching Charles play. I'm 23 and can barely remember Barkley in his prime, there's no way in hell a 16 year old can talk about him as a player unless they somehow busted out every game tape of his.

but there's more to it than just age, what experience is there? did you play? did you coach? did you really do all the research? can you tell me the difference between the triangle offense jackson had in chicago from the triangle offense he's had in LA? can you sit here and break down the financial part of the game?

there's a lot of variables and you may see somebody whose 30 know a lot about style of play but you may see somebody whose 16 know about how the salary cap works.

Also, the most knowledgeable sounding people can leave bias at the door. reading a clipper fan call a laker fan a homer because the laker fan said DeAndre Jordan, despite being the worser of the 2 players now and the more likely to not succeed, would not be better than Andrew Bynum. that one really made me chuckle.

I'm a die hard cavs fan myself, but when I talk basketball, i'll tell you whose good and who isn't, whose overrated and who isn't, who gets away with stuff.

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The NBA has changed

Just a quick aside, one comment read "There were three refs back then". Actually, the NBA changed from 2 referees to 3 around 2 decades ago.

If a person bases their knowledge of the game on how it's currently played, they don't really understand the game as it's defined in the rule book. The game is no longer called like it used to be, and the play has changed considerably. If you compare games played before the last 10 or so years with the present, you'll notice that it now seems increasingly more like wrestling than basketball. Many of the skills that used to be of great value no longer have the same esteem simply because it's easy to disrupt finesse skills with brute force. IMO, the game is not nearly as interesting to watch in it's current form. I watch basketball for basketball, not for wrestling, football, or rugby scrums. This trend seemed to accelerate when Shaquille O'Neal was allowed to blatantly use his "special skills" of knocking defenders out of the way with forearms to the chest...and the game has never been the same since.

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Age matters...somewhat

Age increases the probability of increased knowledge and understanding simply because of the extra time to accumulate and assimilate knowledge, but isn't the end all, be all.

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God this is pathetic. How

God this is pathetic. How ironic that this is a thread about being childish, and yet people are just basically talking s@*t. Who cares if the 7 year olds have opinions? They are entitled to them, and if they are rubbish then they will rightfully be corrected. A 30 year old may have more knowlede, doesn't make you the expert though. Lets talk basketball for god sake, not this petty insignificance.

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first of all, one comment

first of all, one comment for doc holiday... when you make comments like "keep my name out your mouth" like you did a week ago, you lose credibility. You're not hard talking trash on an NBA draft forum.... Nas would be ashamed.

One thing I'll say is that age has a LOT to do with predicting a draft... A 12 year old who reads hoopshype everyday believes the rumors, believes all the hype, believes every player reaches his potential. After you've watched about 10-15 drafts you start to understand that less than 1% of the trades you hear about ever materialize. Hype doesn't get you anything in the NBA, you have to go out and earn everything. Finally, MOST draftees will never reach their potential, and that has a lot to do with the situation they are in~ their coaches, the rosters they compete against, good vs bad team, etc. It's impossible to know this until you've actually seen it go down a few times.

I think it's funny that everyone is making predictions and opinions that they are CERTAIN about, when we don't even know who these guys will play for! lol

food for thought:

You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions (ask more questions youngsters and try and gauge other people's opinions rather than trying to state your opinions as fact- you'll learn a lot!)

The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. (i think that's the difference, the oldies don't try and say they KNOW everything, they try and hash it out with logic and use the past as an indication of what will happen this year)

i'm 21 by the way, so kind of inbetween?

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im 14- i dont think defense

im 14- i dont think defense is unimportant. i go to sports sites every day to increase my knolwedge of basketball. i can beat my dad at basketball knowledge and hes been watching since patrick weing

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As a 16 year old, I think

As a 16 year old, I think kids and adults alike know sports very well. The people who love Basketball will do history checks and stuff

I think we all know basketball well to a certain point and age should not matter.

J1232e....go sit in a rocking chair Gramps...........LOL

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are yall serious...this is

are yall serious...this is actually a fourm..lol..we must be running out of topics to talk about people...personally i think im fairly knowledgeable about basketball from playing it all my life as well as my brother playing it...bu i know im more knowledgeable then most about european basketball because of living,playing, and conversing as with my teammates and coaches over there..as far as age i dont think it matters to much because i recall meeting a kid about 12 years old who knew as much about basketball as some experts ...to be honest you will probably find more kids who know more about basketball then adults because they eat drink breath basketball esspecially if they play organized basketball where as a older guy who plays at the Y every so often probably cant watch it as much because of work or taking care of there kids or the wife taking up alot of there time

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yea, j1232e is probably a

30 year old &$#%#&@! who lives in his mothers basement. What you have been saying about teenagers has been obscure....we come here to have a good time sharing our opinions but have to hear bs from guys like you and Aminu from a while back. Please stop talking trash and let us all come together and talk about something we all have in common, the love for the game of basketball.

P.S. Im 16 years old.

OBAMA!

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