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  • #50882
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    TRC1991
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    Hey peeps, so I broke my hand 12 days ago so my posts have been short lately but after reading the Hall of Fame posts, I realized I still have more to prove. I’m 16th all-time in points on here (The equivalent to Jerry West on the all time scoring list and he’s a sure-fire hall of famer) and was listed as a “50-50” guy for the NBADRAFT.NET hall of fame. Do I feel snubbed? Maybe a little, but that isn’t what this is about. I feel like its legitimately my fault for having not produced enough quality posts and forum topics to have been an ‘automatic’. I’m sort of in that Bernard King category…

    So Im making a commitment now to create higher quality and deeper posts and responses. I’ll start with this one, 5 potential breakout stars for the upcoming season

    1) Jeff Green, Boston
    Green is the go-to scoring option now in Beantown with pierce and KG out of town. Green had a breakout game last season against Miami where he erupted for 43 points on 14-21 shooting. we all remember that game. Back in the 08-09 season, Green averaged 17 ppg, 7 rpg and shot 45% from the field with the Thunder. I think if given minutes he can average north of 18 points per game and be a legitimate building block for this team

    2) Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Charlotte
    MKG isn’t going to dominate offensively but he has a lot of versatility and is sort of in that Shawn Marion-mold of a player: a swiss army knife type guy if you will. With the addition of al Jefferson, the bobcats have their first legitimate post scoring option in franchise history and I think Gilchrist will benefit from the decreased pressure of having to score the ball. He could be a lights out defensive player, a weapon in transition and a strong finisher around the rim. Averages of 12 points, 6 rebounds, 1.5 steals and 1 block would be ideal for he and his team.

    3) Ricky Rubio, Minnesota
    Already a stalwart floor general, passer, and teammate, Rubio simply needs to develop the shooting portion of his game to become a fantastic commodity to the wolves. He has shown potential in his 2 injury-riddled seasons but his numbers were pretty much identical this last season as they were to his rookie year. Rubio has the abilities to be the 2nd coming of Pistol Pete but shooting under 30% from deep is inexcusable. If hes healthy and learns how to shoot expect him to put up 14, 11 and 4 for the year in a best case scenario

    4) Donatas Motiejunas, Houston
    The Rockets were 2nd in three-pointers made per game last year behind only new York. Motie can hit from deep despite his poor percentages last season, and with his height, could really be a dynamic asset. A 7 footer who can stretch the floor is always appreciated. I don’t anticipate greg smith starting for Houston next year due to his non-existent offensive game and if Houston can come from behind and beat the warriors in the Dwight howard sweepstakes, I think donates could fit well in the offense. He wont be an all-star but averaging 9 points on 35% 3 point shooting would be great.

    5) Alec Burks, Utah
    Burks has the tools to be special – he just needs pt. Although I don’t think hes a point guard, hes not necessarily a shooting guard either but he has a nice handle, can get into the paint and can even find the open man. Pairing him with trey burke in the backcourt could do wonders for the Jazz big men and shooters. Both these guys can break their man down off the dribble and force the help defenders over. Burks should get extended minutes this year since the jazz front office appears to have finally realized that the youth movement needs to begin. I think burks can hang to the tune of 14 points, 4 boards and 3 assists this year as Utah’s starting 2 man

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  • #813720
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    Raef LaFrentz
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    You typed this with a broken hand? You have my vote for The Hall based on that alone. Haha.

    I agree with what you said about Jeff Green. I really don’t see any scenario next season where he doesn’t break out and have a great statistical year. He’ll be the clear-cut focal point of the offense now that they are without Big Ticket and The Truth.

    I’m not sold of MKG busting out, but he can only get better after last season, right? I mean, he was downright terrible in the half-court offense (albeit everyone was out of whack because BJ Mullens was shooting 27 footers every other time down the floor). He can really do some damage on D and in the open court though. It’s all about confidence with him. If he makes a couple shots and gets more comfortable with everything else on the offensive end because of it, he can be a do-it-all type guy just like you said. He’s still very young too.

    I think Ricky is going to have a hell of a year.. Not only will he have his two best options available to him (Love and Pek), but he also will have a newly-signed wing at his disposal who is capable of putting up a lot of points: Kevin Martin. The guy is a sniper and should get Rubio a ton of assists. I don’t see him needing to score 14ppg, but if he does it will undoubtedly be because he has improved his jumpshot. He’s never going to be Steve Nash, but he can definitely be serviceable from 3pt range. At least to the point where his defender needs to show some respect. And this guy is SUCH a pest on D. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him rack up a number of games where he gets close to ten steals. Fun player to watch.

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    • #815109
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      Hale
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      He had a 2 month stretch last year where he averaged 13 ppg 5 rpg 9 apg and almost 3 spg, he’s going to have a huge season next year.

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    • #815038
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      He had a 2 month stretch last year where he averaged 13 ppg 5 rpg 9 apg and almost 3 spg, he’s going to have a huge season next year.

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  • #813787
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    Raef LaFrentz
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    You typed this with a broken hand? You have my vote for The Hall based on that alone. Haha.

    I agree with what you said about Jeff Green. I really don’t see any scenario next season where he doesn’t break out and have a great statistical year. He’ll be the clear-cut focal point of the offense now that they are without Big Ticket and The Truth.

    I’m not sold of MKG busting out, but he can only get better after last season, right? I mean, he was downright terrible in the half-court offense (albeit everyone was out of whack because BJ Mullens was shooting 27 footers every other time down the floor). He can really do some damage on D and in the open court though. It’s all about confidence with him. If he makes a couple shots and gets more comfortable with everything else on the offensive end because of it, he can be a do-it-all type guy just like you said. He’s still very young too.

    I think Ricky is going to have a hell of a year.. Not only will he have his two best options available to him (Love and Pek), but he also will have a newly-signed wing at his disposal who is capable of putting up a lot of points: Kevin Martin. The guy is a sniper and should get Rubio a ton of assists. I don’t see him needing to score 14ppg, but if he does it will undoubtedly be because he has improved his jumpshot. He’s never going to be Steve Nash, but he can definitely be serviceable from 3pt range. At least to the point where his defender needs to show some respect. And this guy is SUCH a pest on D. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him rack up a number of games where he gets close to ten steals. Fun player to watch.

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  • #813722
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    aivsdirk
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    agree with jeff green only, ricky Rubio is basically rondo with a worse jump shot, he still can improve with that, he wont be a star but he will be a key piece helping the t-wolves improve year by year as he improves, because of everything else he does on the court I grade him for the moment a significantly very good player. that’s me rating him now. With all that being said if he ever develops maybe a spot up3 down the road like Jason kidd did he will be a star, and thats if he does
    cant agree with anyone else. I think donatas has what it takes to be better than the other 2. when he was given minutes for the rockets this year he was decent and did a solid job, knocked down shots and stayed within himself, but star no. I do think he deserves to start for a significant portion of time this year coming.
    mkg picked to high, another athlete they say has so much potential, maybe potential to be as good as batum, the thing is batum can shoot, mkg cant and he fades for deep periods at a times, right now a role playing poor man’s Gerald Wallace.
    burks can ball I wont speculate to much on him because he in his 2 years like donatas has been given inconsistent minutes. I think this year he will be given a bigger chance to prove himself, especially if the jazz realize the averageness of marvin Williams and allow burks to get the starting 2 alongside Hayward at the 3. I still think burk has the consistent offense to be a very productive player just no future star or even fringe all star.

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    • #813925
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      XYRYX
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      At least you’re trying to make points for your opinion but still you are wrong here. The original post is truely right. I love Jeff Green and he was the reason why I followed the Thunder in the beginning. He really had bad luck after his disappointing ending with the Thunder and had his Heart beeing repaired but learned on this strong Boston veteran team and will have some big games this year for a rebuilding franchise comming next season! Rubio is not 19 anymore and has grown into his own physically. Still not the most durable point in the league but a very underrated defender and a healthy tall flashy player with incredible feel for the game in a shooting team with only offense will do big damage and I can really see him having John Wall type of level next year for a whole season could earn him Most Improved. I know it’s a bold statement but his ceiling is still a very entertainment version of beeing an elite 2k14 masterpiece beeing a top level team motor and defender. Watch out for him.

      Dear aivsdirk,
      Somehow you discovered the wish to express your opinion on this draftboard and smashed every neg records in a dramatic timely fashing. I just found out that the reason for your unbelieveable fails here is you just have no clue about Basketball at all. You have the worst picture and Interpretation of this wonderful sport and I’ve never saw anything before here or in met someone in my personal life. I just can’t believe you grew so old with such a ridiculous view of perspective. I really wonder how a person survives in the wild. Please GO AWAY and DON’T COME BACK!!!

      Find a new sport like Women Tennis and where Wimbledons German beauty finalists looks alone are worth watching it even you never heard of this sport in your life before. This should be a a realistic goal for a new beginning in the sports world to enjoy sharing your opinion on online forums.

      It was somehow nice to meet you but it is time now to move on after this desaster around here.

      Good bye,
      a Basketball Fan who may not be always right with his opinions but just loves to follow the worlds best league in general worldwide and ever. We witness the platinum era of Baskeball in 2K14 mode and are looking into a fantastic future with two tons of talent and very young superstars entering their prime. KD, LeBron, Melo, CP3, Westrbook, Rose, Griffin, Marc Gasol, Noah, Ibaka, Harden, Aldridge, Rose, Love, George, J-Smooth, Wall, Irving, Curry, Davis, Griffin, Leonard, Parsons, Monroe are waiting for the generation change and are taking the league by storm and I can’t way to see how all of these players hit their prime and lead US into a incredible fast and modern era of NBA action.

      Fare well

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    • #813991
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      XYRYX
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      At least you’re trying to make points for your opinion but still you are wrong here. The original post is truely right. I love Jeff Green and he was the reason why I followed the Thunder in the beginning. He really had bad luck after his disappointing ending with the Thunder and had his Heart beeing repaired but learned on this strong Boston veteran team and will have some big games this year for a rebuilding franchise comming next season! Rubio is not 19 anymore and has grown into his own physically. Still not the most durable point in the league but a very underrated defender and a healthy tall flashy player with incredible feel for the game in a shooting team with only offense will do big damage and I can really see him having John Wall type of level next year for a whole season could earn him Most Improved. I know it’s a bold statement but his ceiling is still a very entertainment version of beeing an elite 2k14 masterpiece beeing a top level team motor and defender. Watch out for him.

      Dear aivsdirk,
      Somehow you discovered the wish to express your opinion on this draftboard and smashed every neg records in a dramatic timely fashing. I just found out that the reason for your unbelieveable fails here is you just have no clue about Basketball at all. You have the worst picture and Interpretation of this wonderful sport and I’ve never saw anything before here or in met someone in my personal life. I just can’t believe you grew so old with such a ridiculous view of perspective. I really wonder how a person survives in the wild. Please GO AWAY and DON’T COME BACK!!!

      Find a new sport like Women Tennis and where Wimbledons German beauty finalists looks alone are worth watching it even you never heard of this sport in your life before. This should be a a realistic goal for a new beginning in the sports world to enjoy sharing your opinion on online forums.

      It was somehow nice to meet you but it is time now to move on after this desaster around here.

      Good bye,
      a Basketball Fan who may not be always right with his opinions but just loves to follow the worlds best league in general worldwide and ever. We witness the platinum era of Baskeball in 2K14 mode and are looking into a fantastic future with two tons of talent and very young superstars entering their prime. KD, LeBron, Melo, CP3, Westrbook, Rose, Griffin, Marc Gasol, Noah, Ibaka, Harden, Aldridge, Rose, Love, George, J-Smooth, Wall, Irving, Curry, Davis, Griffin, Leonard, Parsons, Monroe are waiting for the generation change and are taking the league by storm and I can’t way to see how all of these players hit their prime and lead US into a incredible fast and modern era of NBA action.

      Fare well

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  • #813789
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    aivsdirk
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    agree with jeff green only, ricky Rubio is basically rondo with a worse jump shot, he still can improve with that, he wont be a star but he will be a key piece helping the t-wolves improve year by year as he improves, because of everything else he does on the court I grade him for the moment a significantly very good player. that’s me rating him now. With all that being said if he ever develops maybe a spot up3 down the road like Jason kidd did he will be a star, and thats if he does
    cant agree with anyone else. I think donatas has what it takes to be better than the other 2. when he was given minutes for the rockets this year he was decent and did a solid job, knocked down shots and stayed within himself, but star no. I do think he deserves to start for a significant portion of time this year coming.
    mkg picked to high, another athlete they say has so much potential, maybe potential to be as good as batum, the thing is batum can shoot, mkg cant and he fades for deep periods at a times, right now a role playing poor man’s Gerald Wallace.
    burks can ball I wont speculate to much on him because he in his 2 years like donatas has been given inconsistent minutes. I think this year he will be given a bigger chance to prove himself, especially if the jazz realize the averageness of marvin Williams and allow burks to get the starting 2 alongside Hayward at the 3. I still think burk has the consistent offense to be a very productive player just no future star or even fringe all star.

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  • #813730
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    aivsdirk
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    just thought about it, taylor condrin. you only wrote more because of the hall of fame post, dude awards and glorification don’t mean shit compared to your pride about yourself, that tells me you wouldn’t write like this ever and these ideas you may have reached for. be yourself, listen to that jcole crooked smile bruh

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  • #813797
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    aivsdirk
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    just thought about it, taylor condrin. you only wrote more because of the hall of fame post, dude awards and glorification don’t mean shit compared to your pride about yourself, that tells me you wouldn’t write like this ever and these ideas you may have reached for. be yourself, listen to that jcole crooked smile bruh

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  • #813732
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    ProudGrandpa
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    Hey, people take my HOF lists seriously!!

    Anyways, decent list. I think Motiejunas is a long shot and I don’t think Green is too far away from his ceiling, but Burks is a good call and I’ve always been bigger on MKG than most. I think he’ll do really well.

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  • #813799
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    ProudGrandpa
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    Hey, people take my HOF lists seriously!!

    Anyways, decent list. I think Motiejunas is a long shot and I don’t think Green is too far away from his ceiling, but Burks is a good call and I’ve always been bigger on MKG than most. I think he’ll do really well.

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  • #813738
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    JoeWolf1

    Although, still only 22, I’m not sold on Burks becoming much more than a starter in his peak. I don’t think he’ll ever approach start level due to his still slight frame and tendency to want to slash. He’s had difficulty finishing at the rim during the first two years of his career and his shaky jumper has also attributed to low shooting percentages and inconsistant play. I just haven’t seen a ton of improvement from his last year at Co to last season and I really feel that until he hits the weights really hard he can’t play his game at the NBA level.

    If he does get the not at SG next year, I think he’d be one of the worst SG starters in the league. He does have some tools, but I still feel he’s not ready. I don’t see Burks ever becoming a star, but maybe during his peak a 12 or 13 ppg role player starter starter around three better options.

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  • #813805
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    JoeWolf1

    Although, still only 22, I’m not sold on Burks becoming much more than a starter in his peak. I don’t think he’ll ever approach start level due to his still slight frame and tendency to want to slash. He’s had difficulty finishing at the rim during the first two years of his career and his shaky jumper has also attributed to low shooting percentages and inconsistant play. I just haven’t seen a ton of improvement from his last year at Co to last season and I really feel that until he hits the weights really hard he can’t play his game at the NBA level.

    If he does get the not at SG next year, I think he’d be one of the worst SG starters in the league. He does have some tools, but I still feel he’s not ready. I don’t see Burks ever becoming a star, but maybe during his peak a 12 or 13 ppg role player starter starter around three better options.

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  • #813825
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Taylor Condrin u’re 1 of my favorite posters..Your threads are fun and insightful….

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    RUDEBOY_
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    Taylor Condrin u’re 1 of my favorite posters..Your threads are fun and insightful….

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  • #813850
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    GottaBeTheShoes
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    Watching Burks in college, I really expected him to become a 20 point scorer or so in his prime. I feel like the Jazz have given him really inconsistent minutes and have never really focused on improving his game and making him their SG prospect of the future. He’s really struggled in the NBA, not even being able to do always what he did best in college which was slashing and a decent mid-range jumper. It’s probably just bias but I feel there is a huge amount of untapped potential in Burks, and I feel if it continues to not work with the Jazz, then it’s time for them to trade him.

    As for the rest of your post, I like it, it seemed a bit more err.. how do I put it.. Focused and just better quality a bit than your normal posts. All of these guys definitely have a chance to produce at a higher level this year.

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    • #813856
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      JoeWolf1

      Well, I don’t think you’re going to be an effective slasher in the NBA if you’re 190 lbs and with a shaky jumper that guys can give you space on the wing. I watched him a lot of him in college too, and I never saw the NBA scoring translation other than his transition game ( both passing and finishing ). Burks has got to either get a good outside shot or hit the weights so he can slash and take a beating. Until he does that he’s just going to be a 2nd string shooting guard.

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    • #813922
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      JoeWolf1

      Well, I don’t think you’re going to be an effective slasher in the NBA if you’re 190 lbs and with a shaky jumper that guys can give you space on the wing. I watched him a lot of him in college too, and I never saw the NBA scoring translation other than his transition game ( both passing and finishing ). Burks has got to either get a good outside shot or hit the weights so he can slash and take a beating. Until he does that he’s just going to be a 2nd string shooting guard.

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  • #813916
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    GottaBeTheShoes
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    Watching Burks in college, I really expected him to become a 20 point scorer or so in his prime. I feel like the Jazz have given him really inconsistent minutes and have never really focused on improving his game and making him their SG prospect of the future. He’s really struggled in the NBA, not even being able to do always what he did best in college which was slashing and a decent mid-range jumper. It’s probably just bias but I feel there is a huge amount of untapped potential in Burks, and I feel if it continues to not work with the Jazz, then it’s time for them to trade him.

    As for the rest of your post, I like it, it seemed a bit more err.. how do I put it.. Focused and just better quality a bit than your normal posts. All of these guys definitely have a chance to produce at a higher level this year.

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  • #813868
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    mercyman25
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    I think Bledsoe may be a breakout player this year. Since he will become an instant starter on the lowly Suns team I see big stats for the year. Not exactly sure what position they will have him play yet. If they play him with Dragic he could play sg or pg. If they trade Dragic, he would become starting pg. He could be like Damon Soudamire when he was on the lousy Raptors scoring 20ppg and 9apg.

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    mercyman25
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    I think Bledsoe may be a breakout player this year. Since he will become an instant starter on the lowly Suns team I see big stats for the year. Not exactly sure what position they will have him play yet. If they play him with Dragic he could play sg or pg. If they trade Dragic, he would become starting pg. He could be like Damon Soudamire when he was on the lousy Raptors scoring 20ppg and 9apg.

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  • #814471
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    Jr. ROXAS
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    I say Derrick Favors since he will finally be given the chance to start with al jeff reportedly going to the cats.

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    Jr. ROXAS
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    I say Derrick Favors since he will finally be given the chance to start with al jeff reportedly going to the cats.

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  • #814676
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    ItsRainingNegs
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    Kanter

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    ItsRainingNegs
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    Kanter

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    ItsRainingNegs
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    Kanter

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    ItsRainingNegs
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    Kanter

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  • #814732
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    Ahkasi Clay
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    You could make a case for any of the Jazz young uns

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    Ahkasi Clay
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    You could make a case for any of the Jazz young uns

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  • #814865
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    lockdownD

    Tobias Harris
    Lance Stephenson
    Klay Thompson
    Chandler Parsons
    Kawhi Leonard
    Jimmy Butler

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    lockdownD

    Tobias Harris
    Lance Stephenson
    Klay Thompson
    Chandler Parsons
    Kawhi Leonard
    Jimmy Butler

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  • #814867
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    lockdownD

    Look at Utah with these players being mentioned.

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  • #814792
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    lockdownD

    Look at Utah with these players being mentioned.

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  • #815224
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    anthony_DavIS23
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    Anthony Davis?

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    anthony_DavIS23
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    Anthony Davis?

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