3 team deal Thunder, Lakers. and TWolves
"They get scrubs in return" LMAO, what do you think Nick Collison and Kristic are? They are FN scrubs, but they would be soild role players on the champs. You clowns just assume this is a bad trade but this makes the Thunder better. Flynn has a lot of potential. The Thunder could keep Harden, and add Bynum to their frontline.They won't get out of the 1st round with their current team. Why would the Thunder want to keep Collison for the next 5 years? He is nothing more than a role player on a championship caliber team.
The Wolves need a legit two, so they get Shannon in the deal(plays well in the tiangle).
The Thunder get a good young pg in Flynn to replace Westbrook, and they get Bynum and Walton for two scrubs(Collison, Kristic).
You clowns act like it is impossible for the Lakers to pick up Westbrook. If the Thunder was a smart franchise they would trade him to the Lakers, because he will eventually sign with us anyways. He would love to play for his hometown team(the champs). The Thunder have no shot without a starting caliber center, so cut the bs.
Flynn
Harden
Durant
Ibaka
Bynum
Lakers
Westbrook
Kobe
Artest
Odom
Gasol
Twolves
Ridnour(until Rubio comes)
Brown
Beasley
Love
Milicic
Did I say Rubio was a allstar in the making?? It has been reported that Rubio wants to play for the TPups next season. He is more marketable for the TWolves franchise than Flynn. The Twolves can cash in on the Flynn chip and gain a starting caliber sg in Brown or Harden.
Sorry bro but the Thunder are not going to trade westbrook! This is not a bad deal for the T-pups or the Lakers. But as a wolves fan i can tell you that Flynn is not a true pg and he is not ever going to be on the same level as Westbrook. The thunder are not going to trade westbrook unless they get D-howard or some superstar back for him lol. And you say that no one is scared of the thunders frontcourt? Well this may be true but if they did this trade the only thing teams would be afraid of is Durant because there backcourt would be crappy other then him and there frontcourt would not be so hot either. Sorry but the thunder are not trading him!!!
I don't come up with trades that are unfair. I come up with trades that will help both teams. I understand the game of basketball, and I know what it will take for these teams to get better. I notice that every time I post a trade there isn't a single person that can break down how these are "bad trades". The only thing I see is corny jokes about my points, or they wouldn't trade him because he is a star player(even though these players aren't allstars on their current teams). I look at it like this, the NBA is entertainment. I want to see the best play against the best(Westbrook vs Rondo), and I would love to see players like Monta Ellis or Westbrook get more recognition for their talents. If these players played in LA they would be allstars without a doubt. Where are the Warriors heading, the lottery for the 17th time in 18 seasons? What's new? Where are the Thunder heading? I guarantee they will not get out of the 1st round unless they play a weak team.
You guys swear that Bynum can't help out the Thunder. Bynum is still only 23 years old. Injuries a side, I would say that he still has a good amount of potential. Is having Westbrook that much better than adding a legit starting center in Bynum, and replacing him with a good pg in Flynn? Not to mention they would get Collison of thier hands.
But thats exactly the point though. You can't say "injuries aside" because no matter how much potential he has, HE WILL GET HURT. You can count on it. And when he gets hurt he is not just out for a game or two, he is out for like a month in a half or more, and sometimes the entire season. Luckily the Lakers have Gasol who can play Center while Bynum, but the Thunder are not the Lakers. They do not have a guy like who can switch over and nothing lost. They have Ibaka and he is good, but what about the 4. Green will be dealt so he wont around. If Collison is gone and so is Green who would they start at the 4? DJ White. That would propel the team to the lottery faster then anything.
Also the Center position other the PG position is the most important position in the league. Without a center there is no one to defend the inside and be a presence down there. Without a Center the other team would just run right over and get easy layups or dunks every time. Bynum should be able to stop that but when he gets hurt which he will GUARANTEED, there really won't be anyone who can defend it that well.
Lol at the Thunder calling back. The Thunder would entertain this trade without a doubt.
Lakers in- Westbrook, Kristic, Collison
Thunder in- Bynum, Flynn, Walton(Brown would be an upgrade over Harden)
Twolvs get- Brown or Harden
The Lakers could even ask for Mo Pete, that would save the Thunder money at the end of the season. MoPete has the same agent as Kobe, and im shure he would like the chance of getting a ring.
What are you talking about? They just picked up Cole Aldrich(whom is better than Kristic)
The Thunder would have two legit 4's in Ibaka and Green. Show me the link that said they are about to trade Green. He is one of their team captains.
Look at the depth of this team before you make a fool out of yourself
Flynn/Maynor/Ivey
Harden/Cook/Peterson
Durant/Sefolosha/Walton
Green/Ibaka/White
Bynum/Aldrich/Mullens
"Also the Center position other the PG position is the most important position in the league. Without a center there is no one to defend the inside and be a presence down there. Without a Center the other team would just run right over and get easy layups or dunks every time. Bynum should be able to stop that.
Huge Contradiction DWill. You just admitted that having a center is very important, so why wouldn't the Thunder entertain this idea? Bynum has had freak injuries in the past, there will always be a team that is willing to take a chance on Bynum due to your statement(Center is most important).
Righto, Nick Collison just signed an extension for starters, so he isn't going anywhere
James Harden is just started to blossom into a really good scorer for them (and will be better then brown)
Jeff Green is most likely to be traded as he isn't a legit PF and the Thunder know this.
Thunder have one of the best 1-2 punch in the league with Westbrook and Durant and that isn't being broken up
Jonny Flynn is mass overated and is backing up Luke Ridnour??
Andrew Bynum is too big a injury liability for any team to want him
Wesley Johnson is current the SG at the Wolves and they seem to really like him, so Brown would have to be PG (and with his player option who even says he stays) so bad deal for Wolves.
Jordan played with Paxson, Armstrong, and Harper in the Isolation days. Kobe plays with Fisher and Blake LOL. The Lakers will bring in someone legit to play in the backcourt with Kobe. Kobe has always played with scrubs in the backcourt, well that will stop this year.
As I stated before no Westbrook that's ok with me, because we have options. Monta Ellis is actually leading the race to become the next Laker http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2as4ejz. This Westbrook trade proposal is just food for thought, because the Thunder need a center desperately. Maybe they will trade Green for a center? Who knows, but they aren't going anywhere this year.
@DNYCE
I have never read one of your posts all the way through. I begin to read it and then I can't help but feel an overwhelming feeling of retardedness by reading the things you write. I think I speak for everyone else when I say this: You make everyone else dumber by posting this garbage.
Why would a rebuilding (if they did the trade they would be) GSW trade for Artest and his contract, Dorell Wright is suiting them just fine. And with the Barnes injury Artest isn't going anywhere. Shannon Brown is more or less a risky trade because of his player option and the risk of he might not opt in, and if he decides to leave the Lakers he won't be opting in, because he could get more money. Andrew Bynum is tooo big a injury risk for ANY team to take on, he has potential but until he proves he can stay healthy for an entire season it won't be considered. The Warriors aren't losing because of Monta Ellis, his defense on bigger opposing SG's has been pretty good so i don't think he's going to be traded, the trade sets them back and doesn't really allow them to go forward.
The Warriors go foward and make a push to the playoffs with this trade. Shannon's bird rights a reset if he agrees to the trade to the Warriors.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2as4ejz
Curry
Brown
Artest
Lee
Bynum
Monta and Curry can't play together. He wasn't bsing when he said that, he is just trying to keep his image good in the Bay for the mean time between time.
Bynum- for 2 years is a better deal than Biedrins for 4
Brown- will replace Ellis(He is going to get an extension and a pay raise)
Artest-Will make this team a tougher team, still a better player than Wright. Artest is still the best defensive Sf in the west without a doubt. You can't teach strength.
Ebanks- Gives the Warriors a legit backup for Artest. Ebanks is only 21 years old and he could develop into a nice player.
Shannon is undersized, but he has a much bigger wingspan and he is much stronger than Ellis.
Bynum has had freakish injuries in the past. If Grant Hill, TMac, Ilgauskas, Amare can make recoveries, it isn't impossible for a 23 year old Bynum to stay healthy going foward. Do the Warriors have something to lose? Please explain, because they have only been to the playoffs once in the past 16 seasons.
Ebanks for the moment is terrible.
At least Biedrins is healthy for nearly all the games. Why grab Bynum when they can draft a C in the draft or trade for a young C who has proven they can stay healthy, and for a lot cheaper. Bynum is 11mil.
Artest is also a lot older and not what a rebuilding team would be after. Dorell Wright is perfect for them at the moment.
Shannon Brown is in no world even close to Monta Ellis.
Ebanks is terrible? You haven't even seen him play so STFU. Every game that I've seen Ebanks play in so far he has shown a lot of potential, rather it was summer league or the preseaon. Kobe said that he impressed him the most out of all the new players on the team, so does your opinion really matter? Ebanks is solid and he is just a bonus in this trade. If you feel it is such a big deal for the Warriors to trade Wright we don't need to add him to the deal http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=285mc86, Now please STFU!
This is an even better team
Ellis
Kobe
Artest
Odom
Gasol
Ebanks is terrible, the Summer League is precisely that, the Summer League, Javale McGee anyone??
The Lakers get better without a doubt, but thats you've been looking at is how much better your Lakers get.
Even in that last trade of yours, nobody wants Bynum until he can prove he can stay healthy. What if they do that trade and Bynum goes down with an injury? Who's their backup C? Biedrins is at least playing nearly all of the games, so they would probably take Biedrins. Bynum is a better player sure. But he's always missing games.
Besides, the Lakers have no chance of winning a title without Bynum.
The Warriors are getting killed as we type by the Clippers LMAO. Stop acting as if this is a dangerous Warriors team. They have been to the playoffs only once in the past 16 seaons. That is the worst in the NBA. The Warriors are about to get active in the trade market. It's only a matter of time.
Did i ever say the Warriors are a dangerous team??
Bynum was the one player that got the Lakers their championship over the Celtics, you can't deny that. Why else would Phil Jackson urge him to keep playing with the injury (oh what a surprise)
This really doesn't mke sense for the Lakers as well.
Monta Ellis is ball dominant. He couldn't be dominant in the triangle offense, therefore he would be very ineffective. And you'd have 3 PG's. Fisher, Blake and Ellis in your trade.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2bjwtx2