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3 Kevin Love Myths

Here are some Kevin Love myths:

  • Myth 1: Love can’t create his own shot

Reality: He ranks as the eighth-most-efficient isolation scorer in the league this season, per Syngery sports.

  • Myth 2: He is one of the worst defenders in the league

Reality: Opposing big men have shot just 37 percent against him in the post, one of the stingiest marks in the league, per Synergy.

  • Myth 3: He has alot of talent around him (BTPH is a big fan of this myth)

Reality: Three of Minnesota’s four or five most valuable players after Love have missed significant time. Point guard Ricky Rubio is gone (torn ACL). Center Nikola Pekovic began the season as a fringe rotation player and has appeared in just 35 of Minnesota’s 52 games because of injury. Guard J.J. Barea, the most natural pick-and-roll partner here now that Rubio is out, has played in just 30 games and has been more bad that good when he had played. Shooting 38% from the field and 32% from 3. The rest of Minnesota’s wing rotation — Wesley Johnson, Michael Beasley, Wayne Ellington, Martell Webster — is among the least productive in the league.


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mvp?

I was just watching Around the Horn and they were talking about his place in the MVP voting. 26 pts per game and 14 rebs per game and doesn't have the supporting cast that Durant or Lebron has. I can't imagine him winning MVP without even making the playoffs but his game can't be ignored. I still remember draft night when the Wolves drafted Mayo and traded for Love...they may have made some poor moved before (Randy Foye instead of Brandon Roy) but that one really, really paid off.

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Myth 4

To be that good in the NBA, Kevin Love must be part Black.

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Myth: Only Chuck Norris can

Myth: Only Chuck Norris can outrebound Kevin Love

Fact: Chuck Norris is Kevin Love

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Thank god someone finally

Thank god someone finally addressed this. Half of these things you can see clearly by watching him play. It almost seemeda as if the people criticizing him as a player had never actually seen him play. He doesn't get tons of blocks because he doesn't have the length and athleticism to get off the ground and block shots. HOWEVER he does get a hand in their face and challenges every shot, and I mean EVERY shot. With the good players around him argument... Are you serious about that? If there was a ton of talent around him and it wasn't him just producing consistently, wouldn't they be in the playoffs each year? Sure this year he has more help but so does every other playoff team with potential MVP candidates. Lastly, the iso scoring. If you watch him play you can clearly see he's a great player to run the pick and roll with. He is so dangerous becacuse he can roll to the basket and bang inside or float outside to the perimeter and knock down a shot. His versatility opens up the entire offense and because of this (and the improvements made by other players this season), they play better as a team and are offensively dangerous on every possession.

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wait nbanflguy is your name

wait nbanflguy is your name Zach Lowe? the writer of this blog? you must be because your 3 myths are straight out of here. o ofc zach lowe might be using your myths as a source and pretend he did the work himself

http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012/03/29/is-kevin-love-worthy-of-mvp-honors/?sct=hp_t13_a0&eref=sihp

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He won't get MVP but

certainly will win the award for Most Valuable Power Forward.

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Myth: God is not Kevin

Myth: God is not Kevin Love
Fact: God has 2 eyes. Kevin Love has 2 eyes. Coincidence? Dont think so...

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If he gets the wolves to the

If he gets the wolves to the playoffs, he deserves an MVP. Just the way it is. No other team would fail so miserably without one player.

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Kevin Love went from being

Kevin Love went from being underrated to overrated real fast.

Truth is, he's somewhere in the middle. He's not the best power forward in the league, but he's clearly top five.

I'm not buying that defensive stat for one sec lol. And offensively, he puts up monster numbers, but the Wolves play at the fastest pace in the league and he leads the league in minutes per game. He's also attempting over 19 shots per game, which is more than any other power forward... It's 3rd in the league.

I think he's a really good player and can stuff a stat sheet, but I'm still not seeing franchise player that raises the level of play of his teammates around him.

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indianabasketball

A while ago I tried to figure out what you mean by not improving the play of his teammates. How do you come to this conclusion? what is your definition of raising the level of his teammates? how do you know he isn't already doing this currently?

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I tend to Agree with Indiana

I tend to Agree with Indiana on a few points. Love has gone from underrated to almost overrated. I think he's the best PF in the NBA and if he stays on the tear he is on he will solidify that, but lets not be prisoners of the moment. He takes alot of shots, and rightfully so because I'd rather have him shoot than anybody on the team.

His defense has improved, but he still is not a great defender. The lost weight has been huge for him and I think people forget about that. The complaint last year was that he was late on help side rotations alot, which he may have been. But losing weight combined with the improved perimeter defense actually not giving guys straight line drives has made him at least an average Defender. Hes never going to be a shot blocker, people are just going to have to live with that.

I do see a franchise player though, who does raise the level of play of his teammates. I think Nikola Pekovich can attest to that. He doesnt get alot of assists and that is something that Adelman has said he would like to see Love improve on, and in time I think he will. He showed tremendous passing ability in HS and seems like a cerebral type of player. But if we are going to go with that argument I ask, how does Blake Griffin make his teammates better? Same goes for Carmelo? Even Durant?

The fact is the wolves have literally no NBA starters around Love without Rubio and Pekovich. Ridnour is a decent starter but more suited as a top line back up. They have the worst cast of wing players in the league. The argument that they have a bunch of high picks is pathetic, that means nothing. Kwame Brown was a high pick, Manu Ginobli was a low pick so that argument can go to hell

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Youre not supposed to copy

Youre not supposed to copy and paste material and not mention where you took if from it makes you look dick-y

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Just so everyone knows. I was

Just so everyone knows. I was going to post the whole article so i copy pasted it in with the source, but then I thought that was way to long of a read. I deleted it and instead of saying Love was a mvp canidate I just posted some myths about him. I forgot to paste the source the 2nd time. Was an honest mistake. Was not trying to take credit for the article.

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Kevin Love not athletic

Myth: Kevin Love is not athletic

Fact: He has a 35 inch vertical. 1.5 inches higher than Durants, 2 inches lower than westbrook, and 3 lower than prime Kobe.

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At this point, Love is the

At this point, Love is the sole reason Minny is winning any games. Rubio's done for the year and Beasley is struggling heavily lately. Pek is hurting as well. Going off for 40/20 type games at times here and the opposition knows who is the only real threat on the floor. Its remarkable how he is doing this; keeping the Wolves near the playoff picture seemingly by himself.

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He's certainly making it

He's certainly making it tough on me to keep arguing against him with the way he's been playing lately.

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dirk is still the best PF

dirk is still the best PF

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Nbanflguy, what about the

Nbanflguy, what about the myth that he has led teams to nowhere? In his breakout year, Minnesota is below .500 and chasing two teams in Denver and Utah that remade themselves in one year.

It is not a myth that nine Timberwolves were former lottery picks (six were top six picks) and Nikola Pekovic entered the league with the equivalent of top six pay. It isn't a myth that Luke Ridnour, Martell Webster, Brad Miller, and JJ Barea have been contributors on playoff teams. To protect your guy, you can denigrate them if you like. You cannot rewrite the facts.

The Timberwolves are giving up 44 points in the paint per game. You can protect a bad defender from guarding an individual, but you can’t keep him from being a part of the defensive scheme. They give up easy baskets. The points in the paint don’t always include the fact that Love gets worked over in screen and roll. The coaches who actually worry about winning the Minnesota game just keep throwing him in the high screen knowing he has no interest and pick them apart. How about you watch the games and think about why exactly your supposed superstar talent with lottery picks and players who contributed to playoff teams all around him can’t win. This was the case with Monta Ellis. Yes, he can put up Kobe and Wade numbers, but a team can’t win with him doing that. Darren Collison put up almost duplicate numbers to Chris Paul in New Orleans when Paul went down, but the Hornets won with Paul and not with Collison. This is not to say Collison is a bad player, but he cannot be in the Chris Paul role on a winning team. This also is not that far from the nonsense that because bums like McGee, DeAndre Jordan, and Biyombo block shots that they are compable to Dwight Howard. No. Dwight Howard changes behavior every night he decides to show up (he has taken a few off this year). Teams with McGee, Jordan, and Biyombo get overrun with opponents getting to the rim and to the line all the time. If there is a house with a roach problem, a guy coming into the house, drops cookie crumbs on the floor, and then steps on two of them is not the same thing as an exterminator.

Here is a fact for you. The NBA is a league where the cream rises to the top. It didn't take the true immortals long to show it. I can find you a ton of guys (good players) who put up great numbers on bad-to-mediocre teams, but how many MVP-caliber players spent this much time being bad (and not only being bad but never having any success)? Tracy McGrady and Kevin Garnett used to get killed for not getting the second round of the playoffs. Kevin Love is having people throw rose pedals at him while getting lapped by Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap in the rebuilding of bad Northwest division teams. The Portland Trail Blazers have no GM, fired their coach, an owner who no longer likes his toy, a divided lockerroom, and for all extensive purposes a total disaster. They have the same number of losses as Minnesota. But hey, there is no reason let reality rain on your little love fest.

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Nbanflguy, I know you don't have bad intentions but this Isn't

Nbanflguy, I know you don't have bad intentions but this Isn't the first time that you've copied and pasted spmthong without leaving a link. It's not a big deal, but I honestly thought you wrote it and same with a couple other hollinger articles. It's all good though. 

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Who cares if he has 8 lottery picks? You say 8 lottery picks like it is a big deal, but only a few of them actually play and contribute.

  1. Wes Johnson was a lottery pick and he has no offensive game at all. He is a solid defender, but thats it.
  2. Anthony Randolph does not play
  3. Darko........ yeah
  4. Webster scores under 7 ppg and does not do anything special
  5. Rubio is really good, not playing right now though
  6. Beasley has missed 15 games this year and has been hit or miss when he plays
  7. Luke Ridnour is very solid
  8. Derrick Williams will be good, but has been inconsistant all year and his season stats are not all that good.

JJ Barea has also missed almost half the season and has been more bad that good when he had played. Shooting 38% from the field and 32% from 3.

Pekovic has been good, but he has missed 17 games. Love has been the one consistant player game in and game out.

BTPH you are almost always right, but you are not right in this case. I do not think you watch the wolves. Just the fact that you bring up Brad Miller shows you dont watch the wolves. Brad miller has played like a total of 30 minutes all season.

I can find you a ton of guys (good players) who put up great numbers on bad-to-mediocre teams, but how many MVP-caliber players spent this much time being bad (and not only being bad but never having any success)?

This is true, but this is Love's first year being an mvp caliber player and first year the wolves havent been sh*t for a while.

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You cut and paste your same

You cut and paste your same garbage from yesterday. It is wrong then and wrong now. Minnesota has been bad enough for long enough that they have assembled a ton of highly regarded young players. They have also supplemented those guys with productive players from winning teams. You can't simply write them off as garbage to fit your incorrect narrative. Martell Webster is the same player now as he was in Portland. Barea is the same player he was in Dallas. Ridnour is the same player he was in Milwaukee. If they were good enough to help other teams win, you can't whine about the lack of talent when Minnesota can't win. I don't care much Michael Beasley or Anthony Randolph, but Minnesota invested in a pair of (once) highly thought of young players. Obviously, they are less invested in Beasley now than last year. Then again, last year they gave Beasley more minutes and shots and these same dumb threads were about Love and Beasley not just Love. The only thing that changed is that Beasley took 17 shots per last year, and now 7 of them go to Derrick Williams. I don't think much of Darko, but the guy had made $50 million in his career by the age of 26. And in a league of bummed out backup centers, he is no more bummy than anyone else. I like Rubio. He can't shoot a lick, but he knows how to run an offense. He wasn't going to help them survive the monster road trip, but you can't knock him.

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Thats because you never

Thats because you never replied yesterday. Your argument is incorrect.

Minnesota has been bad enough for long enough that they have assembled a ton of highly regarded young players.

I assume you are talking about that we have been bad enough for long so we have good lottery picks on our team. Of the 8 lottery players I listed, only 3 are players we drafted. Being bad has nothing to do with 5 of those players being on the time.

Martell Webster is not the same player he was in portland. He missed a good chunk of last season and the early part of this season after having back surgery. A surgery that robbed him of some of his explosiveness. He has had some good games this year, but he has not been good. You are pretty much saying that because he made the playoffs one time in portland, it is the timberwolves fault that he is not playing well this year.

Yeah Barea and Ridnour are the same players they were on other teams. They were role players on those teams. Barea was a role player on the mavericks championship team, a team with Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Kidd, Jason Terry, Tyson Chandler, Shawn Marion, etc. Because he was good enough to be a role player on that team, he should be good enough to make the Timberwolves team a playoff team? A team with no where near the talent of Dallas. It is the timberwolves fault that he is playing poorly this year?

You just do not like the Timberwolves. You have said before that they are a joke of an organization and said that Al Jefferson is no good. Now that Jefferson is on the Jazz he is all of a sudden good to you.

Basically your argument is that the timberwolves have alot of lottery picks on our team(Almost all of them being busts or not playing well, or even playing at all), and we have role players who made the playoffs on other more talents teams. Because of this we should be in the playoffs easily and Kevin Love is not that great.

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I'll be happy when Kevin Love

I'll be happy when Kevin Love gets "good" teammates, so people can stop making these excuses for him.

He puts up numbers like an all-time great and his team isn't even above .500. His numbers aren't leading to wins. Despite the fact he's having this amazing season, his team is still amongst the bottom teams of his division.

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i agree, i cant wait till he

i agree, i cant wait till he has a better supporting cast then a bunch a role players and young developing guys so that his team can win and then we wont hear these argumetns about how he doesnt win enough.

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but for the record i think

but for the record i think mvp talk is going way too far.

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He's definitely better then I

He's definitely better then I orginally thought. I can't keep him behind Griffin and Bosh anymore. I still think Dirk is better, I still think Aldridge is better overall and I still think that the Zach Randolph of last year was better, but Love's been balling. His FG% is soaring, and Griffin can't shoot worth a damn. Love's numbers are obviously skewed by playing the fastest offense in the NBA, but still it's hard to deny what he's been doing. I'd still take Griffin going forward, but for this year I have to take Love at this point.

Edit: MVP talk is a joke. They are still like 4-7 without Rubio and his numbers were absolutely empty until he got a great coach.

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Timberwolves were above .500

Timberwolves were above .500 before we lost like half our team to injuries.....

Kevin Love took this injury riddled team, without Rubio, Beasley, or Pekovic to OKC and played his a$$ off, made a 3 to force ot, before losing in double ot to one of the most talented teams in the league. That doesnt matter though because his team which had no business even being in the game in the first place, lost.

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BTPH

BTPH I'm a little lost when you said the Timberwolves have been bad enough for long enough, are you including the years before K Love joined the team? Are you referring to when we had KG and were still a bad team? If so was KG the blame for the whole team lack of success? I would think if we are to blame Love we would have the same gripes on the first Kevin. If we are to agree that this has been an issue for "for long enough" how is this just one player's problem?

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Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap

Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap have a bad team around them and are winning. I didn't think Utah was going to be any good, but we are 51 games into the season and they are in the playoffs. I tip my cap to them for doing something I would have never imagined. They are beating teams up inside with their big men, and I have no problem applauding them for doing so. It is not my fault Minnesota isn't winning. I know they aren't, though apparently you don't think so, and the basis for my disgust. If Minnesota was a good team, I'd have no problem with the Kevin Love threads. The problem is praising bad basketball. The biggest problem in the NBA economic structure is overpaying non-stars, and the biggest culprits are guys who get big numbers on bad teams. As an NBA fan that bothers me greatly.

"I assume you are talking about that we have been bad enough for long so we have good lottery picks on our team. Of the 8 lottery players I listed, only 3 are players we drafted. Being bad has nothing to do with 5 of those players being on the time."

The accumulation of young highly regarded players is a result of being bad and going through the process of rebuilding. It isn't about drafting them, it is about getting them.

"Martell Webster is not the same player he was in portland. He missed a good chunk of last season and the early part of this season after having back surgery. A surgery that robbed him of some of his explosiveness."

He was a shooter in Portland and he is a shooter now. He was never a guy who utilized track and pregame athleticism on the court.

"Basically your argument is that the timberwolves have alot of lottery picks on our team(Almost all of them being busts or not playing well, or even playing at all), and we have role players who made the playoffs on other more talents teams. Because of this we should be in the playoffs easily and Kevin Love is not that great."

No. My argument is that in the NBA the cream rises to the top. The greats of the NBA didn't wallow in last place for long. They competed and won early and often. No historicly great player had his grand breakout season on a losing lottery team. Argue that.Take a look at those players around LeBron in Cleveland and Iverson in Philadelphia. Name those players who have been streamed through San Antonio in the Duncan era. Have a giggle at the player who surrounded Jordan and Pippen in Chicago. The talent around Love isn't so bad that it wouldn't keep the true greats down. They have lottery picks, pedigree players. They have role players who have helped playoff teams.

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i will say i think even the

i will say i think even the people knocking love should be able to admit hes climbing the ladder and to me has clearly surpassed chris bosh. I think the heat are significantly better if they were to trade the two while minnesota would be worse.

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Love's numbers are insane...

Love's numbers are insane... I mean, numbers wise... Who's doing it better other than a LeBron James? His numbers are stupid crazy right now. He's putting up better numbers than A LOT of Hall of Fame type of players.

But his team isn't winning. At the end of the day, whatever excuse you want to make... That is an issue. His numbers aren't leading to wins.

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I don't think anyone thinks Love is a true great. He's certainly never going to be LeBron, Jordan, Iverson or Duncan.

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Indiana..

If Kevin Love scored 100 points alone but the Milwaukee Bucks scored 101, Minnesota still loses. it's not an one man game.

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Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap

Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap have a bad team around them and are winning. I didn't think Utah was going to be any good, but we are 51 games into the season and they are in the playoffs. I tip my cap to them for doing something I would have never imagined. They are beating teams up inside with their big men, and I have no problem applauding them for doing so. It is not my fault Minnesota isn't winning. I know they aren't, though apparently you don't think so, and the basis for my disgust. If Minnesota was a good team, I'd have no problem with the Kevin Love threads. The problem is praising bad basketball. The biggest problem in the NBA economic structure is overpaying non-stars, and the biggest culprits are guys who get big numbers on bad teams. As an NBA fan that bothers me greatly.

If I had made this thread just 2 weeks ago, the Timberwolves would have been the team 2 games over .500 and in the playoffs and the Jazz would have been in 10th place in the west. Things change quickly, 2 weeks from now they could be switched again, but you would still not give Love credit. So 2 weeks ago we were a good team, but right now we are a bad basketball team? The facts are that a team who has been injured all season and has rarely had the whole team healthy at the same time, a team that won 17 games last year with most of the same players is now competeing for the playoffs. They have actually have outscored their opponents on the season. They do not play bad basketball. Kevin Love has been the catalyst of this. He has been a huge reason why a horrible team is all of a sudden not horrible anymore.

No. My argument is that in the NBA the cream rises to the top. The greats of the NBA didn't wallow in last place for long. They competed and won early and often. No historicly great player had his grand breakout season on a losing lottery team. Argue that.Take a look at those players around LeBron in Cleveland and Iverson in Philadelphia. Name those players who have been streamed through San Antonio in the Duncan era. Have a giggle at the player who surrounded Jordan and Pippen in Chicago. The talent around Love isn't so bad that it wouldn't keep the true greats down. They have lottery picks, pedigree players. They have role players who have helped playoff teams.

Why do I care about who surrounded Jordan and Pippen? Love is no Jordan and has no one on the team like a Pippen. Duncan has had Manu and Parker. Love doesnt. Love has a not very good team and has made them a solid team on the cusps of being good.

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Love's numbers are insane...

Love's numbers are insane... I mean, numbers wise... Who's doing it better other than a LeBron James? His numbers are stupid crazy right now. He's putting up better numbers than A LOT of Hall of Fame type of players.

But his team isn't winning. At the end of the day, whatever excuse you want to make... That is an issue. His numbers aren't leading to wins.

They are leading to wins! We have already have 25 wins. We had 17 all of last year in an 82 game schedule. We are 25-27. 2 weeks ago we were over .500. This team has no business being that good and competeting for the playoffs. Our team is filled with draft busts and underachievers with a few solid pieces. This team has been injured all year, but yet is still in the playoff hunt.

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@SpidyInATruckGreat post

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Great post man!
I don't give points often but I did on this one.

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BTPH- I like most of your

BTPH- I like most of your points but you are coming off as plain idiotic in this case. Who is a better PF then Love right now? What players in the NBA would make the Timberwolves significantly better then they are?

I'm tired of your argument that they have a bunch of high picks, good work on pointing out that fact. But are they good players? Luke Ridnour, Martell Webster, Brad Miller and Barea have been contributers on playoff teams...are you kidding me? Websters had 2 back surgeries, Brad Miller stopped being relevent 5 years ago, Barea has missed over half the season, and Ridnour has been playing SG for half the year and has been solid.

Randolph is trash, Darko is trash, Beasley is inconsistent as anybody in the league, Wes Johnson is trash- I dare say these are pretty close to facts.

Fact is, there is 1 NBA player that you could switch places with Love and see a significantly better Wolves team- lebron.

Love doesnt put up empty stats at all, he singlehandedly keeps his team in games and you can only overcome so much poor play from the rest of the team.

I dont think he should be getting MVP discussion, but he is completely dominating right now and if he plays close to what he has been playing like lately, there simply isnt a PF close to as good as he is.

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Exactly Biggysmalls. Thank

Exactly Biggysmalls. Thank you! Someone who actually watches the wolves!

I think he should be in the MVP discussion. Should not win it of course, but he should get some like 5th place votes or something.

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you almost scared me nbanflguy

I tend to agree with your Love post since I also watch him probably as much as you seem to. But got scared when ya said mvp discussion. Thought you were gonna say he should win it, but I can agree with the fifth place finish after Lebron, Durant and Rose for sure so maybe fourth.

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"If I had made this thread

"If I had made this thread just 2 weeks ago, the Timberwolves would have been the team 2 games over .500 and in the playoffs and the Jazz would have been in 10th place in the west."

So you don't think Minnesota should have had to go on a road trip in a compressed season in which home teams are winning 60 percent of their games (and that counts the pitiful Bobcats and Hornets)? No division games should be played either? What is the next thing, you don't want Love's contract to count against the cap?

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LeBron James, Kevin Durant,

LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Derrick Rose, Dwight Howard, Tony Parker and Dwyane Wade are all guys I wouldn't think twice about putting ahead of Love.

James, Durant, Wade aren't exactly arguable.

Derrick Rose

Trust me I know your argument: They are 13-5 without him!

Me: Yes they are, but they are 28-6 with him, tell me what's better. Also those 13 wins have two against Charlotte, two against Toronto, Washington, Cleveland, and the Kings on that list.

Dwight Howard is single handedly leading a team or garbage to a 32-19 record. If you take him off the Magic they are undoubtedly in Bobcat territory. Ryand Anderson is only successful because he's team with D12.

Tony Parker is someone I hate but is having the best season that no one is talking about. His team has an aging Duncan and Manu missing half the year yet he's still avergaing 19 ppg and has a career in assists (1.1 higher then he's ever had in any other season) and has led the Spurs to a 35-14 record.

That's leaving off Kobe, Chris Paul, and Steve Nash (who's led the Suns to a better record with probably even less talent then the Wolves) who could all be argued.

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some of u guys need to give

some of u guys need to give love some credit here... tho i dont think hes the best pf overall... thts still dirks spot... but the twolves are two games below .500 and they have had lots of injuries.... and last yr there were just god awful.... and looking at there roster, its not like they have a bunch of great role players cuz they really dont at all...

hes having an amazing season and hes one of the reasons y the wolves are even in this position they are in, there finally relevant.... they prob wont make the playoffs.... still... dont take away the season hes having..... single handely carrying the wolves..... and its true.....

his numbers have to be leading to wins this season if they won just 17 games last yr.. and they may double that amount this yr in a shortented season.... like i said.... GIVE THE MAN HIS F*CKING CREDIT!! i seem kinda upset.....but some things u guys are arguing like martell webster... WHO GIVES A RATS ASS ABOUT MARTELL WEBSTER!! hes played in just 33 games and is an average role player..... he isnt exactly helping love or the wolves win.....

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Nobody ever said they didnt

Nobody ever said they didnt think MN shouldve gone on a road trip...he simply stated that 2 weeks ago the Wolves were a better team than the Jazz. When 3 of your top 6 players get injured, a difficult road trip looks that much more difficult. That road trip was not going to be easy either way, but if you add Rubio, a healthy Pekovic and a healthy Beasley, things might be a little different. Is that not fair to say?

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So you don't think Minnesota

So you don't think Minnesota should have had to go on a road trip in a compressed season in which home teams are winning 60 percent of their games (and that counts the pitiful Bobcats and Hornets)? No division games should be played either? What is the next thing, you don't want Love's contract to count against the cap?

When healthy, Minnesota was one of the few .500 road teams in the league....

You can say we are not a great team, but you cant say we are a bad team. You said "I have a problem praising bad basketball" the Timberwolves dont play bad basketball. We are in pretty much every game even when we are missing Rubio, Beasley, and Pek. We have outscored our opponents on the season and have winning records against San Antonio, LAC, Dallas, and Houston. Love is a big part of that

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I agree with adding dwight howard to the mvp list ahead of Love. But disagree with Wade and Parker. First requirement of being mvp of hhe league you should be the best player on your team and I cant say that with teammates like Lebron and Duncan. As far as Kobe don't think has been a mvp year for him. He has carried his team but not in his usual dominant fashion

BTPH I don't know if ya had the time to read my last questions for your gripes on Love but would like to read your response

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Dwyane Wade is Dwyane Wade.

Dwyane Wade is Dwyane Wade. Tim Duncan is shooting a career low in FG% and blocks and nearly has a career low in rebounds, minutes, and points. He is certainly not the Spurs best player anymore. Tony Parker is shooting the same FG% as a PG and has actually been a great decision maker this year.

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I like Kevin Love as a player

I like Kevin Love as a player and I glad he finally has gotten his chance to shine. I think he is an All Star and a big key to Minny success with Rich Adelman being the number on reason they are winnning. Love would not be put the same amount of points if there were more stars on his team. He is in the position that Love and Rubio who is a pass first point guard are really the main guys for that team. With Rubio hurt, it is all Love, all the time. Adelman should get coach of the year. Love should be in the running for MVP but I don't think he should win it but I have not seen any of his recent games so until then I have to be somewhat partial.

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Why he is not MVP

The reason why they do not give MVPs out to good players on bad teams is that it is very easy for a good player to go for their stats on a bad team...Mike James once averaged 20 points a game for Toronto!!! Danny granger averaged 26 points a game for the pacers when they couldn't get above .500. Kevin Love is statistically the best PF in the league right now...but we can't tell how great he is because his team does not win more often than they lose. While i agree that he may be one of the top talents in the league, I also think that he can't be MVP because the team he is on is not winning.

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Nobody ever said they didnt

Nobody ever said they didnt think MN shouldve gone on a road trip...he simply stated that 2 weeks ago the Wolves were a better team than the Jazz. When 3 of your top 6 players get injured, a difficult road trip looks that much more difficult. That road trip was not going to be easy either way, but if you add Rubio, a healthy Pekovic and a healthy Beasley, things might be a little different. Is that not fair to say?

I think that is very fair. We competed well in every game except the Spurs game even with a injury riddled team.

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Yeah.. Nbanflguy demolished

Yeah.. Nbanflguy demolished BTPH on this one.

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