I'm going to list 10 trade ideas that I've come up with. Please before commenting consider salary cap issues, contracts, and the cba. All the trades work, or would require some VERY MINOR filler. Please tell me whether the trade is Mutually beneficial, which team would not make the trade, or if neither team would make the trade.
1. Greg Oden to the Pistons for the #7.
2. Greg Oden to the TWolves for #4
3. Andrei Kirilenko (1 yr) to the Warriors for Maggette (3 yrs), Biedrins (4 yrs), and the #6. (Before shooting this trade down, please keep in mind that the Jazz would be helping the financial situation of the Warriors immensely and this would give them a better chance to develop Randolph. It's no small thing to take on over $70 mil for two over paid guys... even if you're receiving a top 6 pick.
4. Memphis #12 and #25 to Utah for #9
5. Kaman and #8 to Phily for #2 and Brand
6.Jeff Green to Utah for #9
7. Utan sends #9 to Minnesota for Kevin Love
8. James Harden to the Kings for #5
9. Utah sends #9 and the conditional Grizzlies first rounder (protected until 14, then 12, and 10, and 8 over the next few years) to Golden State for #6.
10. Michael Beasley to the Jazz for the 2011 Grizzlies conditional first rounder.
All in all alright but i don't think James harden an unproven sophmore to be worth a 5th pick a potential star. also beasley for a future pick sounds like a steal.
Jeff Green is a stud. There is no way he is traded for the 9th pick
Also I love James Harden and think he is a perfect fit for the thunder but we could get Cousins or Monroe for him thats just too hard to pass up.
#1 and 2, no dice. Oden is not going anywhere...especially for a #4 or 7 pick.
#3 maybe, but the Jazz won't take both Biedrins and Maggette. They might go for Maggette but Biedrins is not a Sloan guy in the least. Perhaps Maggette and Morrow (sign and trade) with the 6th pick but the Warriors risk AK47 walking away for nothing after the season.
#4 If Memphis "guy" is still available at #9 then this trade has real legs.
#5 This is Donald Sterling were talking about, forgetting the fact that Brand royally burned the clips 2 offseasons ago and there is no way in hell they would take him back now... Sterling won't increase his payroll to take on brand by dumping Kaman who is an above average center and not on a max/near max deal... like Bogut, Okafor etc etc.
#6 Not a chance. OKC would probably rather keep Green and deal with his restricted free agency in the offseason then deal him for "just" the #9 pick. Millsap and #9 for Green and OKC's 2 first rounders if boozer resigns (OKC can take on the salary). Green is going to be looking for around 8-10 million a year when he goes for his extension. I don't see Utah paying that unless they really feel Green is their SF of the future. There is a recent history between OKC and Utah (Maynor trade) Even after all this, Presti has proven to be much more creative with his assets. I just don't see him pulling this type of deal. He would look for more. Green has proven to be a valuble commodity in the NBA. Not a star, but still young and certainly not anywhere near bust territory like a loto pick with high "potential".
#7 Doubtful... but possible. You just never know what Kahn is going to do but I think the Wolves plan on keeping Love and trading Jefferson instead. Love is cheaper and will probably end up the better player. He has been getting in better and better shape through his first 2 seasons.
#8 Best one yet. If OKC could land Cousins with the #5 pick then this one has a chance. Cousins fills a need for OKC and Harden fills one for SAC. The only problem is Cousins does not fit the mental profile of the team chemistry OKC has insisted on building with talented, but high character picks.
#9 If GSW can't find a trade they like which fills an immediate need and the player they really want is not there at #6 then yes... this is very possible.
#10 Prior to approx. July 10th anything is possible with Beasley's contract if MIA ends up with a good shot at 3 near max players this offseason via the cap space trading Beasley would provide. I could see MIA pulling the trigger and getting an asset back like this pick instead of just Doolings expiring contract. If MIA strikes out in free agency...and we should know by about July 10th,... then no dice. Its much to soon to give up on Beasley though. He has under performed and I don't know if he has the mind for high level basketball, but he strikes me as a player that will have the light switch go on one day. Beasley has allstar talent and athleticism but his own mind is holding him back. I think MIA regrets this type of deal even if they get 3 max/near max guys. Not sure if this type of trade talk has been fluff or not.
I agree... The Jeff Green trade looks really bad for the Thunder... The Love trade is also a huge win for the Jazz
Are you a Jazz fan? The Kirilenko trade looked pretty bad too. It would be pretty fair for just Maggette and Biedrins but the #6 pick is robbery.
I really appreciate the input. You're a stud. Thanks.
I'll politely disagree on the Oden deals. He's up for an extension this year, and he's proved at the very most to be an extremely unreliable talent. I think for the #4 they should DEFINITELY pull the trigger. For the #7, I still think I'd have to consider it.
Green is up for extention too. I really like Green, but I wonder if the Thunder feel he's the long term option at the 4. Clearly Durant's best position is the 3. If they feel they can get Bosh, this would be a great way to parlay a great asset (that's about to become a lot more expensive) into another great asset. I'd try and get the #4 or #5 first, but I'd guess that the Clips at #8 would be the first team that might go for that trade.
Good call on Brand. Totally agree.
FDAPO,l I thought somebody would respond that way about the Kirilenko trade. But you've got to realize that NO TEAM in their right minds is going to take on those two guys salary for so many extra years. Without throwing in the #6, the Jazz would be commiting financial suicide for the next 3 years.
Oden for the 4th overall pick?
I wouldn't do it.
Oden can't stay healthy and at this point given his injury history,
I don't believe he would be better than a potential pick of Derek Favors, D. Cousins
or a Wes Johnson.
I used to think Oden was going to be a stud but with him losing these last few years
and the fact that he already looks like he is 50 years old,
I would have to pass.
Turk, What # would you trade for Oden?
I have the same question, are you a Jazz fan, it looks like it considering how many of these proposed trades include the Jazz.
I like #4 the best for the Jazz, I think Memphis would only do that trade if the player they want was still on the board at # 9 and they really wanted him. I would hope the Jazz could get Udoh or Babbitt at 12 and Sanders/Brackins or White/Stephenson with #25.
Captain L, Yes.... a glutton for punishment just like you.
I like the Memphis trade ONLY if we are nearly certain our guy will be on the board. I like the Babbit Brackins combo, or maybe Udoh and Damion James. But I wouldln't make the trade till draft day. You'll think I'm crazym but I'd love to see Cousins fall to us and I think there's a small (yes, very small) chance of that actually happening.
No one wants oden he is a bust and to say he couuld be worth the 4th or the 7th pick is stupid what are you thinking. Kevin love is not worth the 9th pick maybe if they had kevin and a second rounder for the 9th would be worth it.