when you really break it down, Kawhi Leonard is a piece of shit

I think both parties have shown some blemishes to their otherwise perfect characters. Spurs put some stuff out to the media about Kawhi not playing when he was cleared and I think that’s when Kawhi really went awol. Kawhi was getting information that refuted the Spurs doctor’s recommendations and he went with the least biased source.

Without knowing all the facts here I want to give Kawhi the benefit of the doubt. As a longtime Raptor fan who remembers Carter’s injury derailed season before being traded for pennies, this stings a bit.

I actually think Kawhi on the Raptors next to another Cali player in DeMar DeRozan would instanly become favourites to make it out of the East. Not sure Kawhi would OK the trade to Toronto but he might if he gets to become the #1 SF in the East and play next to DeMar.

Would help ease that Carter sting if we’re on the receiving ends of one of these trades.

 Kawhi is injured and his teammate Tony Parker goes, " My quad injury was 100 times worse and Im fine" that is such an ego douchey thing to say. Questioning Kawhi’s heart and toughness when he was finals Mvp and defenisve player of the year for the Spurs is disrespectful 

 Didn’t the lakers offer Ingram and a first round pick ?  The spurs should of taken that

So at least not damage the franchise which paid you millions is mandatory!

Theres 3 sides to every story – his, theirs and the truth. He is sticking to his guns. It takes character to do that and not cave in if you believe its the right thing to do. So, i cant imagine the Spurs are free of blame here. There is something that has happened to totally break that trust – he is turning down the supermax, the best coach and the only organisation that he has known. He has not made a peep since being drafted so you cant say hes a guy with ongoing issues. I never side with guys being petulant asking to be traded to a particular location, so it makes me wonder. 

The Spurs know hes gone so they need to take the best offer before training camp. They are holding out for Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, 2 picks and 2 pick swaps. I think there is a standing offer elsewhere that is  less but still comparable, so they are trying to drag the Lakers to the level. The Lakers better not get too cute if they want him cos if the Spurs send him to the Clips or Knicks he may just re-sign there. 

 The team called him out, that never ends well. If your a Spurs fans I get being upset, but blame the team. Blame the players calling him out. Actually thank him for speaking his mind now, rather then just leaving for nothing after next year.

 I said it from the beginning the Spurs have no leverage ans got negged for whatever reason. They will most likely lose him for nothing. If im the Lakers im not giving up anything this year beside Ingram and picks and salaries dont match I think.. 

 The reason kawhi wants to leave is only cause Spurs are not care enough about winning anymore, too his believe Spurs are having too much other stuff other than winning in their mind, like pop being to much politic instead of focus only on coaching, like being too much loyal to players instead of making the team the best, like making moves only to look good on media like signing woman coach… Kawhi lost trust in the franchise, while being all about winning all those years he don’t think the franchise is the same, that why he wants out of there!

relationships fail due to two incompatible parties rather than one flawed individual. I think Kawhi just wants to go home and play for his city since he’s from LA and apparently doesn’t care if its the Lakers or Clippers. I think a lot of the ugliness is just a conflict that has existed for a while and probably escalated out of control. We probably don’t have the initial context of how everything got started.  

I can’t rally believe some people give Kawhi the benefit of the doubt with this whole case. First of all, what Parker said has nothing to do with the Spurs as an organisation since the coaches and front office can’t control what a player is saying. If I remember correctly, Pop never said anything beside that he doesn’t know about the injury status of Kawhi anymore and that the media should ask him about what’s the status. I also don’t remember that Kawhi officially said any word over the last months regarding his status which is crazy. 

The Spurs never played any player minutes and games he should not and I don’t see any reason why the Spurs should rush any player into something let alone their franchise player. And why didn’t Kawhi and his camp just come out at any point to clear things up, also to the media? There was plenty of time to do so, didn’t happen. 

So the facts are he was cleared to play by the club, he refused to do and looked for doctors who backed up his point of view, which by the way is the easiest thing in the world. The club is/was unhappy how the player and his so called entourage handled this thing which is not surprising at all and now he wants to be traded to a specific club. 

Totally lost my respect for Kawhi and still don’t see any true reason why HE should be upset about anything. He didn’t want to play and for the record he didn’t beside this 9 game stretch so actually he got his will. I would not touch this guy at all if I‘m not named the Lakers or Clippers and aside from that, Kawhi doesn’t seem to be the guy at all who is looking for the spotlight he will have in LA.

I‘m still under the impression that there is more to this whole thing then the wish to play for the Lakers. Would not surprise me at all if he has some mental health issues and can’t handle the NBA pressure but this would the whole LA thing even more stupid.

I get why people are giving Kawhi the BOTD, but I find it much easier to side with the Spurs, the most respectable and classy organization of the last 20 years, over a guy who’s been a total mystery his whole career. At least until the whole truth comes out, if it ever does

People still think the Spurs can do no wrong. They fucked up. You NEVER call out your best player over an injury. What Kawhi is doing may not be the best for the Spurs, but at this point, why should he care about them? This is a guy who was being talked about in the same category as Lebron and KD, only to have old ass Tony Parker who hasn’t done shit in years come and belittle his injury on live television. The Spurs have the same opinion of themselves as a lot of you, “they’re the class act of the league and their shit doesn’t stink”. You didn’t see a single soul on the Heat roster try to call Lebron out for cramping and having to get carried off the court. If your STAR says he’s injured, and you send his teammates to talk shit about him in a weak attempt to get him to “man up” and play, that shows you don’t trust your STAR. If I’m Kawhi I would’ve give a damn how Pop or anybody from the org feels.

 https://youtu.be/btqU2MVEieU

Watch from 4:00 to 7:30. Stephen Jackson keeps it REAL.

Um, Stephen Jackson was kicked off the Spurs for insubordination in 2013. He was washed up then, shooting 37% from the field and 27% from 3. But he repeatedly threw tantrums about not playing and insisted he was better than Manu and Danny Green and deserved their minutes. Finally Pop told him that if he couldn’t support the team from the end of the bench, he could kick rocks.