teams with 0% chance of playoffs

lee will most likely stay i bet. the knicks could make the playoffs. btw, sacramento doesn’t suck, they’re young and inexperienced. don’t be so harsh about them.

oh…and even if rubio could play for minnesota this year..it wouldn’t mean they’d be in the playoffs…minnesota still has some work to do.

lets be honest… if we work backwards u can get a good idea of who will be in and out of the playoffs.

in the west there is only one playoff spot up for grabs IN: LA, S.A , DAL, POR, N.O, UTAH, DEN,

possiblities of the last spot: phx.(hungry amare/nash$$), hou (too tough to count out), lac. (baron doesnt have back to back bad season and has enough vets)

in the East playoff bound : Orl., Bos, Cle., Atl.,

possibilities for the last 4 spots: Mia., Tor., Was., Chi., Phil., Det.

So the final list of the teams in NBA with ZERO chance of making the playoffs(sorry to fans in these cities but maybe next yr)

– Mem. / G.S / Sac. / Okc / Minn. / N.Y / Mil. / Ind. / N.J / Cha.

The Clippers. I know they have some talent, but they still need to play as a team, run sets, play defense and stay healthy. Blake Griffen isn’t enough to make the Clippers a playoff team, at least in his first year.

Why do the knicks have zero chance of passing a powerhouse like detroit, washington or philly for a spot again? Last time i checked none of those teams were really that good and there will be a sub 500 team or 2 making the playoffs in the east. Noone in the east is completely out.

its not about b. griffin.. if he can come in and just be a “garbage/ energy guy” they will be just fine… lets not forget that when b. davis is focused he is one of the top pg in the game… he lead g.s to the playoffs and a win over first seeded dal. a couple of years back. and along with b. davis, u have m. camby a great help defender… a. thorhton a very versatile sf who very well maybe the l. odom of the clippers and e. gordon who can fill it up… yes they may need an addition here or there but this team is good enough to compete for the 8th spot

And how are they one of the THREE worst? When they had SEVEN teams finish behind them last year. I know that not a lot but the knicks actually improved this offseason and got their 6th pick back who didn’t play a lot last year. People really love to shit on the Knicks its pathetic. The Knicks COULD make the playoffs they had a good chance last year until they got hurt and had to play a seven man rotation. People just assume knicks are the worst team in the nba because they like it that way because fans of small market teams hate NY.

the days of multiple sub 500 teams making the playoffs is OVER! i sorry to break that news to u bkballer and with that the hopes of the knicks looking like there in the playoff race is out of the window.. one thing about the nba is that it is easy to tell the contenders from the pretenders and if u think the knicks are going to make the playoffs with w. chandler as ur go to guy… i dont know what to say!

you are a very uneducated fan who just enjoys bashing the knicks. They have a solid core of players who competed last year even though there was a lot of mid season trades and had you watched games you would see that they were so depleted that they had to dress injured players just so they were allowed to play. They improved this offseason and im not guaranteeing a spot but i promise you they will be in the race for one. Just out of curious what team are you a fan of?

its sounds like u’ve had a tough day defending the knicks or maybe something else… but the truth is the truth! yes u guys get back ur 6th pick from last season who may or may not have a good season the fact is he is young and u can’t rely on young players in the nba unless ur name is l. james or t. duncan!!! and no one or atleast i’m not hating on N.Y b/c its a bigger city than were i’m from ( although i’m from Toronto which is about the 6th biggest in the nba so i’m not really from a small city) its b/c they have a lack of talent and knick fans don’t want to see the truth about there team. to me i think u should have more of a problem with me putting a team like the Bobcats on the ZERO list b/c there team is more talented than the Knicks and may have a chance with a few key moves

i do think the bobcats have a chance, i also love how u automatically put toronto so high when they stunk last year just as bad. the hedo move may or may not work out for you guys i in no way see u as a lock for the playoffs. Lastly i do know u have it in for the knicks not just because of know but because ive seen a bunch of your threads sayin this nonsense. How about you worry about your team who by my coutn has SUCKED just as bad and has never done anything relevant in their franchise history.

answer me this?? 10 seconds left in the game knicks down by 2…. who gets the ball on that team??

d. lee? n. robinson? l. hughes? gallineri? darko…lol? sorry about that one

UMM your forgetting that we have al harrington who averaged 21 pts per game last season, nate robinson is also very solid when it matters he averaged 17 off the bench, david lee is very efficient, gallinari has already shown that he is one of the best pure shooters in the NBA while only playing 28 games, trust me he can hit the last shot. And i am not saying the knicks are an amazing team they are clearly not, they are very far from being considered even in the top 15 in the league, fortunately the east is not set after the first 4-5 teams and don’t be too shocked if they sneak into the playoffs. And i can DEFINITELY see them finishing better than the raptors, who are going to lose their only player that matters next year anyways in bosh.

wow!! all 13 yrs of there HISTORY… just about the last time the knicks made the PLAYOFFS! and i’m glad ur a fan of mine but if u were paying attention to most of my threads if i did have something negative to say about the knicks its mostly b/c u guys(knick fans) are so easy to get on there heels and just makes for good conversion b/c u guys are really passionate which i have no problem with… but the fact is the truth is the truth and no matter how big ur city is ( something the knicks fans always seem to need to mention.. why? ) ur team is not that talented.

Last time i checked before their run last year the raptors were 2-3 games behind the knicks with about 2 weeks to play. And the fact that you got a very very over rated hedo who you over paid for because he had a good playoffs due to the way the magic are build with talent at every position, while losing marion and parker DOES NOT suddenly make you a great team.

Lee is definitely not going anywhere nobody can afford him. Unless nate goes to greece, which i don’t see happening hes staying as well. And saying the pacers have a chance of making the playoffs is just as bad as me saying the knicks might make the playoffs.

i PROMISE you knicks don’t finish last in the east thats just absurd

and the whole giving me negative points thing is unneccessary that stuff is just stupid

u can see them losing bosh?? interesting.. well if u knew the guy and the type of ppl he associates with u would know that the guy is a straight shooter and just like d. wade wants management to put a solid team around him before he puts his name to paper that will tie him to a team in his prime years… the guy loves the city and so far thinks the moves are bring the team in the right direction.. especially getting a guy who can make something happen at the back end of the shot clock and as well suring up the back up point guard position and i’ll give u a early prediction that there will be at some point in the season a call for j. jack to start over calderon b/c of his lack of defence

i never said anything about hating on pacers cuz they are a small city idn where u got that from i could care less where they are from, they blow. big deal they have one player that is good, the rest of the team is pathetic. what 10th man would start on the knicks again?? jeff foster?, roy hibbert? travis deiner? whos your second best player troy murphy? really cmon dont tell me my knicks suck and then come with some garbage like that.

second to last to 9th was a tiny difference. knicks tanked the last few weeks bringing in and trying out d leagers because their roster was so depleted from playing a 7 man rotation, if u remember they were 10th with less than 10 games to play. Im not sayin knicks are great im saying all three of us are pretty much in the same boat and for some reason you guys think the knicks r so far behind your teams.

i never said hedo was a great player but he can make a play at the end of the shot clock and i would rather have the ball in his hand than a. harrington (mr. fantasy himself) i dont know how u stand having that guy on ur team… he must have one of the worst shot selection in the league.. and i hope u can agree with me on that atleast bkballer?

yes i think bosh leaves either to miami, cleveland, NJ or even your favorite place NYC =]

Lee led the league in double doubles, that means something.He had a strech where he had a double double for 38 out of 41 games. Averaging 16 and 11 while playing out of position is pretty impressive. Al harrington is often over looked but he averaged 21 points. Nate would have been 6th man of the year had the knicks won more games. We have more promising rookies or young players in chandler, gallo, hill, douglas. Who the pacers have Hansbrough? Roy hibbert is a stiff who blows and brandon rush is decent at best.

if were going to disagree atleast make some sense doing it… the fact is there are only a hand full of really good teams in the league and everyone else is terrible/ young or just okay…

and bkballer the raptors/knicks and pacers are not in the same boat… the raptors tried to make a big move last season to get to the next level and it didn’t work out the two years before were in the playoffs and odds are they are back in this season again… as for the knicks to be honest i can’t remember the last time they made the playoffs so that speaks for itself and the pacers while they haven’t made the playoffs for a few yrs i would rather have there roster with a few talented players than the knicks who are really just praying for the 2010 free agencies period to begin

sorry i didnt name names….

pacers…. have a better pg than anything the knicks have in t.j ford.. b. rush is going to be a solid role player who can do alittle of everything ala anthony parker… and of course they have the best wing player out of the three teams we all represent in d. granger which i’m sure u can agree with bkballer

haha mayeb if you say my knicks arent the second worst team in the nba we can be friends.

And as for the past i 100% agree with you that the knicks were pathetic the last decade i cant agree with you more you are definitely right. However thats because we had horrendous management and the reason you can see knick fans getting slightly optimistic is because we finally have a good manager who ryan will agree with me on because he was part of the good pacer teams. The knicks are still going to struggle but they are an improving team and i still firmly believe they have a SHOT for that 8 seed just as much as the pacers and yes the raptors do.

On another note don’t you miss when pacer knick games had some meaning to them and we had that good rivalry? Hopefully we can get that again soon.

I do like granger and ford is pretty solid too but other than that im not a big fan of the rest of their roster.

extremely impressive, i guess we cant really get a winner of this arguement until at least december ill be sure to check back with you guys when my knicks are doing better than the extremely impressive pacers squad. And btw no way we finish below the nets and bucks so i think im pretty safe not being the WORST team.

haha i think flynn will be better

haha i guess no friendship for us. Im ok with that tho. We should do this again sometime tho, probably when the knicks beat the pacers =]

you’re a clever guy now im kinda upset we can never be friends. well okay take it easy guy

T wolves obv wont make it but they have a much better chance doing it with Johnny Flynn than they would with RUbio. Any PG in the league would take Rubio to the rim every time and most likely lock him down on defense.

its not you its me

Teams that wont make it
New Jersey
Sacramento
Houston?
Clippers
New York
Minny

Teams that Will make it
West

Lakers
Spurs
Denver
Portland
Dallas

East

Magic
Cavs
Boston
Miami
Atlanta
Toronto
Washington

Borderline West
New Orleans
Utah
Suns
Thunder
Warriors
Grizzlies

East
Everyone except NJ and NY

Anyone who thinks the Knicks are the top 3 worst teams in the league is clueless when it comes to the NBA.
Don’t go by the 14th worst record in the East they were 4 games behind the 9th place team.

How are the Nets, Pacers, Bucks, Bobcats better than the Knicks in the East?

Nets they traded Vince Carter for Lee in the long run that will be a great move but right now Lee isn’t as good. Alston will complaine and maybe get traded. They still haven’t improved the PF position, and playing young guys at 3 positions doesn’t make you a playoff team

Pacers added Tyler H, Jones and most likely lose Jack, Daniels this team has no bench either. Team is weak besides Granger.

Bucks lost RJ & Charlie V adding Jennings won’t replace their scoring and neither will Joe Alexander.

Bobcats only added Gerald Henderson so far and might lose Felton. How good can a team with Raja Bell, Vlad Radmonvic, Diop & Nazr be?

The Knicks aren’t an elite team or close but last year they had no back up pg, Nate was the SG for half the year.
Qrich is gone they added bigs with Darko, Hill and Curry will play. Lee could end up staying one year as no team is offering him big money. Starting line up of Duhon, Hughes, Chandler, Harrington, Lee is better than plenty of teams and
Galinari, Hill, Douglas, Curry could be coming off the bench tell me how those teams have better rosters.

The West is improved and too tough for teams like Sac, Minn, OKC, Houston to contend.

@deshawynkey91- you said the Warrios have a 0% chance of making the playoffs. Dude you are way off. I say they have an 75% chance of making the playoffs. I bet you have never even watched the majority of the players on that roster play before lmao. I mean the Warriors are loaded. They have a top notch combo guard in Ellis. Curry is an excellent shooter who can also play PG or SG. Morrow is very underrated, he can score. Belineli is a great shooter. We all know about Stephen Jackson. Brandon Wright is long and will be better this year. Anthony Randolph is a monster on both ends of the floor. Biedrins is a very underrated Center. Not to mention Turiaf is a great backup in the post. Warriros have way more talent then a lot of teams in the West. Haha that is my only real beef though. The rest of your list is probably pretty accurate.

Gatorheels,

get off GS’s jockstrap. the warriors are talented OFFENSIVELY, but they are almost all defensive liabilities. I don’t care about statistics, as far as getting a stop late in the game against the playoff contenders~ the warriors don’t stand a chance. A team that puts some combination of Wright, Randolph, Jackson, Morrow, Ellis, Curry out on the court along with Biedrins/Turiaf has no chance defensively.

This is the NBA~ everyone can score, playoff teams play defense.

That said, I wouldn’t give GS 0% chance of making the playoffs, but 75% is way too high. Don’t get over excited about SL. Curry can’t even hit at a high clip there, which means it’s going to take even longer for him to transition when he gets to the league.

And also, with or without Rubio, the wolves have no chance of making the playoffs unless Flynn is CP3- and he’s not. I’ve watched a lot of Twolves games, and the are one of the most garbage squads in the league, especially after trading Foye and Miller, their 2nd and 3rd best players.

I dont think New Orleans and Dallas are going to be locks. Dallas still doesn’t have a good center and kidd is getting older by the day. New Orleasn,well odds are they trade some of their top players just to save money. CP3 is great but he won’t carry a team to the playoffs. I like GS, OKC, or LAC to take the 6, 7, and/or 8th spots in the west. The top teams are starting to fall and the younger ones are moving up. In the east this is how I see it going down…
1. Orlando
2. Cleveland
3. Boston
4. Washington- All the vets on their team finally play well together
5. Chicago- Rose, Salmons, Deng? Top notch backcourt, need to get boozer
6. Miami- Carried by Wade and young guys get better.
7. Toronto- Euro Domination. They’ve got serious talent in the front
8. Indiana- Lot’s of versatile player

No ATL or Philly. Take Indy and Toronto off, they will never make it over Philly and ATL

Gatorheel… have u heard of league pass?? i’ve watched every team in the league numerous times obviously some more than others. the one thing u can count on with the G.S warriors on a nightly basis is to 1. not put in a solid defensive effort for 48 mins and 2. take bad shots in the 4th quarter…. and anyone that knows anything about the nba knows thats the combination of death a.k.a the lottery

the only chance i see of G.S making the playoffs is if they go out and aquire a solid pg ala a. miller who will make good decisions for this team of quick triggers and a. randolph turns into a monster that demands the ball and gets the warriors alot more high percentage shots(which is very unlikely this season)

I wanna say the Knicks have a decent chance of getting into the playoffs.

sorry iguodala but if philly doesn’t sign/replace a. miller with a veteran pg philly probably will not make the playoffs again that team was lead by miller who had a c. billups like impact on that team and sorry but williams will not be able to be the teams pg and we know j. hoilday is not even close to being ready…

i do agree that atl. will be in the playoffs again next yr and why won’t they… the actually got better by aquiring j. crawford who can coming in off the bench and just look to light it up for a team that has trouble scoring in the half court.

xbadger- I’ve been saying Golden State will make the playoffs before summer league started so that has nothing to do with it. Also the Warriors are simply better than the Clippers & Rockets.

The Jazz are no lock to make the playoffs when you really think about it. I mean they were the 8th seed last year. They may lose Milsap. They may lose Boozer without getting anything good in return.

The Hornets aren’t a lock either. Chris Paul doesn’t have as much help as people seem to think. I mean if Chandler &or Peja can’t say healthy then this team could miss the playoffs.

Warriors are in the playoffs people. Write it down. I said it.

gator,

you’ve been wrong since before summer league. like i said GS plays no defense, which translates to NO PLAYOFFS.

I agree Warriors will be the 8th seed in the west.

GS has a good shot of making the playoffs. I think they can run with most teams.

Monta Ellis in year 2 of PG? Curry’s shooting? Randolph? Ohhh boy.

wow!! gatorheel big prediction… but i think ur going to look but at this one and wonder what u were thinking! ur right that the hornets dont have a great supporting case but they still have enough to make the playoffs THIS yr while OKC is still not ready to make the jump and the rockets are hurting…. and thats the same reason i think the jazz make it this yr as well

and i can’t agree with u that G.S is better than the Clippers or Rockets… the Clippers have the best pg of the three teams and we all know that when baron “b diddy” davis is serious/focused he is one of the better pg in the game and a big reason why the G.S warriors have fallen off. as well if the Clippers 1st round pick lives up to his potential early there is no question that this team will be battling for the last playoff spot atleast!!!

Lock it up….. the Clippers finish the 08-09 season with a better record than the Warriors (look what u make me do gatorheel… back the clippers something just feels wrong with that..)

knickboy on the wrong side of things AGAIN.. why do u think u win in the nba playing NO DEFENSE!! i guess u have to believe in that style being a Knicks fan.. thats exactly why no matter who is injured on the Rockets i will never count them out b/c they are hard a hard nose team that is not going to take foolish shots and are going to battle for 48 mins.. can u really say the same thing about the Warriors??

Aight deshawynkey91…. that is a bet. The Warriors are better than the Clippers. I will show you why.

PG- Baron/Taylor
SG- Gordon
SF- Thornton
PF- Griffin/Jordan
C- Kaman/Camby/Jordan

PG- Curry/Ellis/Law
SG- Ellis/Morrow/Curry
SF- Jackson/Maggette
PF- Randolph/Wright
C- Biedrins/Turiaf

Those depth charts may be a little off…I’m just guessing. OK I agree that Baron Davis gives the Clippers an advantage over Golden State. An experienced PG is important. At SG I feel Gordon & Ellis are even at this point but the Warriors have much better depth. At SF Jackson has an edge over Thornton. Warriors have better depth at this position as well. Thornton is overrated. Randolph & Griffin is a pretty even matchup. I would rather have Randolph though because he is taller, more versatile, more experienced, and a better defender. The depth is pretty even Wright & Jordan cancel each other out. They both have a lot of potential. At Center you have to say Biedrins is quite a bit better than Kaman. So basically the only advantage the Clippers has is at PG which is why the Warriors will have a better record and make the playoffs. We shall see.

the suns didnt play anything resembling defense when they had great teams for 3-4 years and they were always in the conversation for winning the NBA title. Now I don’t think GS will win a title but they do have a great shot to be a playoff team. They have a great young rotation and they can plain outscore over half the teams in the league.

first…. ckowalski the suns were in the conversation but they had one of the smartness pg in the league(who couldn’t defend other pg) and sorry G.S doesn’t…. along with the fact they had players that were 4/5 years plus into there career

now to u Gatorheel….

PG- Baron/Taylor
SG- Gordon
SF- Thornton
PF- Griffin/Jordan
C- Kaman/Camby/Jordan

PG- Curry/Ellis/Law
SG- Ellis/Morrow/Curry
SF- Jackson/Maggette
PF- Randolph/Wright
C- Biedrins/Turiaf

i’m going to base most of the agrument on the starting lineups b/c the clippers still have moves to make to fill up there lineup (maybe acquiring a. iverson.. who i’m not a big fan of )

yes the clippers have a huge advantage at point the most important position on the floor and the weakiest position that the warrior have.. and everyone knows that if u can’t stop the lead guard from dont what they want ur team is going to be in trouble… eg for how great s. nash was/is the fact he could never stop t. parker is the reason the suns could never take the next step Advantage= Clippers

i will agree with u that at the two its a wash between e. gordon and m. ellis both good scorers and not much on the other end. at the sf position the good s.”action” jackson gives the warriors a vet with experience and the edge but just as easy he can shoot u out of games and stunt a guy like a. randolph development. like u i’m not very be on a. thornton but he is an good athlete and growing player. Advantage = Warriors

as for the pf position right now i’d rather have b. griffin who is physically ready to play in the nba and will have an impact one way or another on this yrs clippers team even if just as an “energy guy” but if he lives up to want ppl think he can be a double double guy this team can be strong. i see ur point about rather having a. randolph for the long haul.. sorry but he is not ready to impose his will on the strength of real nba players yet! Advantage(this yr)= Clippers

and at Center m. camby is clearly better than a. biedrins.. ur talking about one of the best shot blockers in the league in camby and if we go into the depth chart of kaman and turiaf to me thats a wash. Advantage = Clippers

and ur right we shall see!!!

To back up my post before…Philly has been said to be looking to shed salary cap by getting rid of Dalembert and Miller. With out those two they are very weak. Iguodala is good but besides from him there’s not enough talent. Atlanta well that’s just my gut feeling that something is going wrond down there and something bad will happen this season. But hey, I’ve been wrong before…
to compare….
Calderon/Jack<Miller, Holiday, Williams
Derozan Young
Bosh> Brand
Bargnarni> Dalembert
I give the edge to Toronto based on the starters

I cannot see Toronto in the Playoffs..lack of depth.

I don’t know. I really like that team. I think Hedo and Calderon match eachother well and will create ample opportunities for Barg and Bosh to score. Derozan is a guy that doesn’t really need the ball to be effective and can be a great defender for the team. They should work on their depth though…

What does experience have to do with it? It doesn’t take someone 4 or 5 years to figure out how to shoot the ball. Also, I never said GS would win a title, ever. I said they had a good shot to be a playoff team. They have a good rotation with Jackson, Ellis, Maggette, Biedrins, Curry, Randolph, Turiaf, among others. It’s not like they are fielding a team of rookies, GS has a good amount of experience also. Ellis is no Nash but the thread is not about winning a title it is about making the playoffs. GS had a lot of injuries last year and barring another major injury should be a threat to contend for a playoff spot easily. There are a lot of similarities between the Phoenix teams and GS. Phoenix had defenders (Marion, Bell, Diaw) but were not known as a defensive team. So does GS (Turiaf, Randolph, Biedrins, even Jackson). Both teams were loaded with shooters and both could get out and run. Both had versatile bigs. I don’t think you can count them out in the West with teams simply not doing anything (Hornets), ravaged by injuries (Houston), or losing key pieces (Utah). GS added arguably the best shooter in the draft and should be getting back a better Ellis, Jackson and Maggette from injuries.

deshawynkeys91- I would like to know how you can say Camby is clearly better than Biedrins?

Gator,

The first line of the depth chart says it all… Stephen Curry starting at PG? and you think they have a chance to make the playoffs? you have to be shitting me. the kid is struggling to run the show in summer league~ what makes you think he’ll be able to do it against NBA PGs every night?

I’m not writing Stephen off for his career, but he’s not a playoff caliber PG right now. Curry and Ellis have no shot of locking up Baron Davis and Eric Gordon. end of story

I think Curry is leading pretty well in summer league actually. I mean the Warriors have won 3 games and only lost 1 with Curry running the show. He hasn’t shot well but he is playing PG pretty good. I mean he is averaging 20pts 5reb 5ast 3steals. The Warriors don’t have to start him at PG. When the Warriors make the playoffs…i would love to hear what you have to say then. Yall can have the Clippers. I’ll take Golden State over them anyday. Warriors clearly have more talent.

u like to know why i say camby is better?? Watching them play over there careers!! not to say biedrins is a bad player but i’m sorry i can’t sit here and say that biedrins is better or as good as camby.. thats not going to happen.

ckowalski… experience has alot to do with making the playoffs and advancing in the playoffs and if u think that the warriors starting back court of ellis and curry is going to make the playoffs ur crazy… and experience does have something to do with shooting…. when and where to take ur shot that is one of the things that separates the good players from the great ones!

deshawynkeys91….u need to your research. Biedrins is more efficient than Camby.

I could care less about over their careers. I’m talking about right now.

I would think Ellis would start at point and Maggette would play SG with Curry coming off the bench at least to start the game. Ellis and Curry could play together if they want a smaller lineup, not sure how effective it would be since we haven’t seen it happen yet. I think Curry will have an easier time getting his shot off in the NBA as opposed to Blake Griffin being able to manhandle opposing PFs. The Clippers have talent but I can’t see them as a playoff team. They just dont know how to put it all together.

Experience is overrated. Look at Portland last year. Very young team that put all its talent together and made the playoffs. Even look at Orlando. Barely any playoff experience any they made it to the finals. Celtics didn’t have a whole lot of playoff experience, Ray and Garnett only ever made it to the Conference Finals once and both lost. You could argue the most experienced man on that roster was James Posey when they won their championship. Even the Lakers in the finals against the Celtics. TONS of experience and still got blasted by 40 to seal it.

gatorheel u need to watch more games… for most part u have a good grip on whats going on in the league but for some reason u falling for the “s. marion fools gold” with a. biedrins…. yes he has a high fg% b/c he cant do anything but dunk/lay ups he is a terrible ft shooter and the reb numbers have been inflated b/c of the style that the Warriors play (shoot everything from everywhere at anytime) and he is the only big on the court when he is playing i see him very much in the same light as d. lee…. on a bad team that plays and up and down with no regard to shot selection or making winning decisions.

deshawynkeys91- You have no proof to say Camby is clearly better than Biedrins…. the #s don’t lie. Yes Camby is a good shot blocker but so is Turiaf. Once again son u need to do your research. I watch plenty of games. I would take A Randolph over Griffin anyday also. Warriors have better talent dude…I mean it isn’t that hard to see.

getting double digit rebounding consistently is difficult it doesn’t matter what your style of play is. There are plenty of talented big men that dont average a double double.

gatorheel u keep talking about proof… but than u say a. randolph is better than b. griffin what proof do u have of that?? there nba career? NO there college career? NO… so what proof do u have to explain that? and numbera tell part of the story not the WHOLE story b/c if that was the case z. randolph would be one of the best players in the game… so dont tell me numbers dont lie!!

I can’t wait for this season to start thats all I have to say.

knicksarent the worst team but im 100% sure they wont make it

u were right. We were wrong…now you can logout.

there you go. dissing someone.

I think the Kings could make the playoffs in the west.

There are 5 teams that I believe have the potential right now to make the final 2 playoff spots in the west this season:

1. Thunder
2. Jazz
3. Rockets
4. Kings
5. Hornets

It is so early in the season that I do not think it can be narrowed down anymore than that, all of those teams have showed that they have what it takes to pull their act together when they need to, and I honestly do not see a reason as to why any one of them cannot improve their game enough to grab one of the last two spots.

Its crazy that anyone would believe the knicks have a chance of making the playoffs they are a bad team one of the worst and they only have 3 wins no way they come close to the playoffs. there are way too many knicks fans on this site that are not being realistic.

ryan got everything right and you guys cant even apologize to him?

ryan got everything right and you guys cant even apologize to him?

ryan got everything right and you guys cant even apologize to him?

ryan got everything right and you guys cant even apologize to him?

ryan got everything right and you guys cant even apologize to him?

ryan got everything right and you guys cant even apologize to him?

Don’t bump old threads.

Don’t bump old threads.

Don’t bump old threads.

Yea he was definitely right lol.

GS better than the Rockets….Swallowing words now. Also, I said Philly would be in the playoffs. Ha!

Yea he was definitely right lol.

GS better than the Rockets….Swallowing words now. Also, I said Philly would be in the playoffs. Ha!

Yea he was definitely right lol.

GS better than the Rockets….Swallowing words now. Also, I said Philly would be in the playoffs. Ha!

New Orleans is a lock for the playoffs. The Warriors will get the 8th spot. Jason Kidd is getting older and don’t have a Center. Atlanta not making the playoffs. So much wisdom in one thread!

New Orleans is a lock for the playoffs. The Warriors will get the 8th spot. Jason Kidd is getting older and don’t have a Center. Atlanta not making the playoffs. So much wisdom in one thread!

New Orleans is a lock for the playoffs. The Warriors will get the 8th spot. Jason Kidd is getting older and don’t have a Center. Atlanta not making the playoffs. So much wisdom in one thread!