Bored, what do you think about this trade (3 way trade)?

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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 7:15pm #60239

gthao
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Bored and came up with this trade proposal….

LAL gets- DeMarcus Cousins
SAC gets- Ty Lawson, Faried, 2nd pick
Den gets- Clarkson, J. Randle, 6th pick

Lakers don’t want to rebuild so they get DeMarcus (not sure if he would work well with Kobe but you get a for sure star player instead of a "potential" star player in Towns, Okafor, Russell). With this trade lakers can bring MAYBE bring in another "star" player, such as Rondo? They’ll have to find a way to get rid of Jordan Hill’s 9 million dollar contract if he opts in for his last year of his contract to add Rondo. Lineup: Rondo, Kobe, Young, PF/C? Cousins.

SAC- George Karl gets rid of Cousins who doesn’t fit him or he doesn’t have to deal with the baby. He gets his two former players in Lawson and Faried plus the 2nd overall pick. Since Demarcus is the star player in this deal they do get more and the 2nd pick makes sense here. With the 2nd pick, they get one of the bigs as Center. Lineup: Lawson, McLemore, Gay, Faried, Towns/Okafor.

DEN- They’re rebuilding! They already hold the 6th pick and now they get the 7th pick. With young players like Gary Harris and Neurfic or however you spell his name, they can add more young talent. In this deal they also get Clarkson, solid rookie year and also Randle, a good young prospect. With the 6th and 7th pick they can add a wing like Winslow or S. Johnson and go for one of the foreign guys or both foreign guys. Lineup: Clarkson, Harris?, Winslow/Johnson, Randle, Nerific.

Overall, I think this trade is win-win-win for all 3 teams. Denver gets to rebuild and add some very young and talent players. Lakers get their big star player and George Karl gets his players back plus the 2nd pick.

What do you guys think?
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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 7:42pm #987524

llperez
lakers give up secdond pick, julius randle and jordan clarkson for cousins? No way.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 7:42pm #987372

llperez
lakers give up secdond pick, julius randle and jordan clarkson for cousins? No way.
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 7:56pm #987530
  
  gforce03
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  you’re saying it should take more to get Cousins……right?
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 7:56pm #987378
  
  gforce03
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  you’re saying it should take more to get Cousins……right?
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 8:17pm #987538
  
  gthao
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  Cavs gave up two first OVERALL picks in Wiggins and Bennett and an additional first rounder for K Love. If you compare these two trades, Cavs gave more in value than what Lakers are giving up. They might have to throw in the 27th pick. Trading for star players isn’t cheap.
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 8:17pm #987386
  
  gthao
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  Cavs gave up two first OVERALL picks in Wiggins and Bennett and an additional first rounder for K Love. If you compare these two trades, Cavs gave more in value than what Lakers are giving up. They might have to throw in the 27th pick. Trading for star players isn’t cheap.
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  - Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 8:35pm #987542
    
    llperez
    bennett was a scrub throw in, dont care where he was picked. Clarkson is much better then him. Also the cavs would probably like to have that deal back.
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  - Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 8:35pm #987390
    
    llperez
    bennett was a scrub throw in, dont care where he was picked. Clarkson is much better then him. Also the cavs would probably like to have that deal back.
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    - Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 2:57am #987464
      
      B-ball fan
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      I think the Love trade was the exception, rather than the rule. Star players don’t usually get that big of a haul.
      Plus, the Lakers aren’t going to win anything until Kobe retires. They might as well keep building and keep their young players – Clarkson, Randle and the 2nd pick could be really valuable and the star of something nice, especially with how much cap space they will have. Hopefully their management is smart enough to not do something stupid just to satisfy Kobe’s vanity.
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    - Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 2:57am #987616
      
      B-ball fan
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      I think the Love trade was the exception, rather than the rule. Star players don’t usually get that big of a haul.
      Plus, the Lakers aren’t going to win anything until Kobe retires. They might as well keep building and keep their young players – Clarkson, Randle and the 2nd pick could be really valuable and the star of something nice, especially with how much cap space they will have. Hopefully their management is smart enough to not do something stupid just to satisfy Kobe’s vanity.
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    - Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 4:20am #987484
      
      Lotto Stud
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      "bennett was a scrub throw in, dont care where he was picked." -llperez
      aka "Thomas Robinson 2.0"
      
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      - Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:27am #987785
        
        Endlessknight
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        T-Rob is way better than Bennett, that guy is a rebounding machine.
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      - Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 11:27am #987633
        
        Endlessknight
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        T-Rob is way better than Bennett, that guy is a rebounding machine.
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    - Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 4:20am #987635
      
      Lotto Stud
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      "bennett was a scrub throw in, dont care where he was picked." -llperez
      aka "Thomas Robinson 2.0"
      
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    - Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 8:38am #987722
      
      Willfb3
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      No logic here. It was 2014 and Bennett was the first pick of the 2013 draft. One season is far too soon to say someone picked first overall is a scrub. He’s less valuable now after his second poor season, but he added value to the deal without question. We all have 20/20 hindsight…
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    - Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 8:38am #987570
      
      Willfb3
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      No logic here. It was 2014 and Bennett was the first pick of the 2013 draft. One season is far too soon to say someone picked first overall is a scrub. He’s less valuable now after his second poor season, but he added value to the deal without question. We all have 20/20 hindsight…
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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 8:06pm #987532

MorseWill
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I think Sac wins this trade, Two proven borderline all stars in Lawson and Faried as well as #2 pick to add Okafor or even Russell… And that’s not a knock on Cousins
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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 8:06pm #987380

MorseWill
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I think Sac wins this trade, Two proven borderline all stars in Lawson and Faried as well as #2 pick to add Okafor or even Russell… And that’s not a knock on Cousins
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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 8:11pm #987534

trelos6
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Far out. It takes a quick google search.
Anyways, I think that’s a solid trade. Denver blows it up, but can rebuild with a promising core of young talent.
Lakers should be laughing that they give up that little for a borderline top 10 NBA talent.
Kings get a nice package in return for their disgruntled star player.

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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 8:11pm #987382

trelos6
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Far out. It takes a quick google search.
Anyways, I think that’s a solid trade. Denver blows it up, but can rebuild with a promising core of young talent.
Lakers should be laughing that they give up that little for a borderline top 10 NBA talent.
Kings get a nice package in return for their disgruntled star player.

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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 8:11pm #987536

festar35
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For LA to do this they need to either keep Clarkson or get Faried, Lakers otherwise have nothing to put next to Cousins apart from an aging Kobe and who else Ryan Kelly?
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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 8:11pm #987384

festar35
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For LA to do this they need to either keep Clarkson or get Faried, Lakers otherwise have nothing to put next to Cousins apart from an aging Kobe and who else Ryan Kelly?
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 8:19pm #987540
  
  gthao
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  That’s the price you have to pay for a star player. If you want a proven star player, you’ll have to give up a lot and go out and try to sign FA’s to boost the team. FYI, clarkson could stay, no way LA gets both cousins and faried in this deal unless lakers offer multiple future 1st round picks
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 8:19pm #987388
  
  gthao
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  That’s the price you have to pay for a star player. If you want a proven star player, you’ll have to give up a lot and go out and try to sign FA’s to boost the team. FYI, clarkson could stay, no way LA gets both cousins and faried in this deal unless lakers offer multiple future 1st round picks
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- Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 8:41am #987724
  
  Willfb3
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  A young star player in Cousins, plus the allure of playing in LA should be enough to pull another stud after Kobe retires.
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- Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 8:41am #987572
  
  Willfb3
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  A young star player in Cousins, plus the allure of playing in LA should be enough to pull another stud after Kobe retires.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 9:09pm #987396

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Denver would need to throw in some veterans that would make room for the rebuild and add more value to the Lakers return. Foye and or Chandler would have to be added. The Nuggets would have two top 10 picks that could take their minutes and a lot of young players like Barton, Harris, Green, and Nurkic that would need more minutes.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 9:09pm #987548

OhCanada-
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Denver would need to throw in some veterans that would make room for the rebuild and add more value to the Lakers return. Foye and or Chandler would have to be added. The Nuggets would have two top 10 picks that could take their minutes and a lot of young players like Barton, Harris, Green, and Nurkic that would need more minutes.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 9:26pm #987404

WinterSoldier
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I don’t understand why the Nuggets would need to be involved. If the kings are giving up Cousins they would probably rather have young players and picks, than older players.
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 10:12pm #987412
  
  adum
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  Kings are in a semi win now situation with their new owner.
  When in reality they are no where near the playoffs with or without this trade.
  IMO they need a miracle or Lebron lol
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 10:12pm #987563
  
  adum
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  Kings are in a semi win now situation with their new owner.
  When in reality they are no where near the playoffs with or without this trade.
  IMO they need a miracle or Lebron lol
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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 9:26pm #987555

WinterSoldier
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I don’t understand why the Nuggets would need to be involved. If the kings are giving up Cousins they would probably rather have young players and picks, than older players.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 9:46pm #987406

Magic Jordan
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I would rather have Towns/Okafor, Clarkson and Randle. I don’t care how dominant Cousins is. Give me the cost controlled contracts of 3 young players over having Cousins on the Lakers and nobody else. That’s the first thing.
Secondly why do people assume Faried has like, actual value? He just signed a contract that he will never come close to living up to. People, or most people are not blind to this fact. He had a big summer and the Nugs signed him to a ridiculous contract. He has shown virtually no statistical improvement since he entered the league. All of his seasons are almost identical.
Thirdly, why the hell would the Kings do this? I believe if they give up the 6th pick and maybe one other asset tops Lawson can be had. And they add him to Cousins.
You might be able to convince me that all of this happens because of the George Karl connection. But from strictly a talent standpoint the Nugs are the only ones who win here because they get young talent and an additional pick.

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- Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 10:11pm #987410
  
  WinterSoldier
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  I agree the Kings are not giving up a pick and trading Cousins. Lakers and Knicks are both in bad situations as far as picks owed and Kobe and Carmelo. What amazes is that Kobe and Melo want to stay and are holding their teams hostage by forcing them to win now. I know the fans of these teams probably love their players but from an outside perspective it would drive me crazy if it were my team.
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  - Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 7:07am #987675
    
    Magic Jordan
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    It’s my team and it does drive me crazy. I am ready for Kobe retire after this year. Extremely grateful for what he has done, but it’s time for the next era of Lakers basketball to begin and I am a firm believer that him jacking up 20+ shots a game will be a detriment to their growth.
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  - Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 7:07am #987523
    
    Magic Jordan
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    It’s my team and it does drive me crazy. I am ready for Kobe retire after this year. Extremely grateful for what he has done, but it’s time for the next era of Lakers basketball to begin and I am a firm believer that him jacking up 20+ shots a game will be a detriment to their growth.
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 10:11pm #987561
  
  WinterSoldier
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  I agree the Kings are not giving up a pick and trading Cousins. Lakers and Knicks are both in bad situations as far as picks owed and Kobe and Carmelo. What amazes is that Kobe and Melo want to stay and are holding their teams hostage by forcing them to win now. I know the fans of these teams probably love their players but from an outside perspective it would drive me crazy if it were my team.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 9:46pm #987557

Magic Jordan
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I would rather have Towns/Okafor, Clarkson and Randle. I don’t care how dominant Cousins is. Give me the cost controlled contracts of 3 young players over having Cousins on the Lakers and nobody else. That’s the first thing.
Secondly why do people assume Faried has like, actual value? He just signed a contract that he will never come close to living up to. People, or most people are not blind to this fact. He had a big summer and the Nugs signed him to a ridiculous contract. He has shown virtually no statistical improvement since he entered the league. All of his seasons are almost identical.
Thirdly, why the hell would the Kings do this? I believe if they give up the 6th pick and maybe one other asset tops Lawson can be had. And they add him to Cousins.
You might be able to convince me that all of this happens because of the George Karl connection. But from strictly a talent standpoint the Nugs are the only ones who win here because they get young talent and an additional pick.

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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 9:49pm #987408

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No way the Lakers do that. I could see the Lakers giving up the 2nd Pick and Clarkson for Cousins, but giving up ALL 3 of the Laker’s young prospects (Clarkson, Randle, Okafor/Russell) would be a big mistake long term.
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- Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 6:37am #987663
  
  gthao
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  In the past if a team was to trade for a star player they would have to pay a hefty price. The team will have to offer a young player who they think will be an all-star one day, so Randle. The team will also have to add one or two more players and additional first rounders. Look at the KG trade, Boston gave up 2 future first round picks, and like 5 players for him with Big Al as the "prize" prospect. Sure, Demarcus is no KG but again the price is high to land a proven All Star player. Clarkson and the 2nd pick would not be enough for Cousins, unless they add more picks or players but Lakers dont have any players that will attract the Kings, unless Denver was to give up more…
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- Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 6:37am #987512
  
  gthao
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  In the past if a team was to trade for a star player they would have to pay a hefty price. The team will have to offer a young player who they think will be an all-star one day, so Randle. The team will also have to add one or two more players and additional first rounders. Look at the KG trade, Boston gave up 2 future first round picks, and like 5 players for him with Big Al as the "prize" prospect. Sure, Demarcus is no KG but again the price is high to land a proven All Star player. Clarkson and the 2nd pick would not be enough for Cousins, unless they add more picks or players but Lakers dont have any players that will attract the Kings, unless Denver was to give up more…
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- Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 5:23pm #987747
  
  gthao
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  In your other post for the t-wolves(my home team), you said Demarcus Cousins for the 1st overall pick, Rubio and Dieng? But you think lakers will being giving too much if they gave their 2nd pick, clarkson, and randle? I dont get it……Rubio is more proven than Clarkson, Dieng as of right now is more proven, and the 1st pick is higher than the 2nd pick…..I’m confused. I don’t get your logic..
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- Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 5:23pm #987899
  
  gthao
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  In your other post for the t-wolves(my home team), you said Demarcus Cousins for the 1st overall pick, Rubio and Dieng? But you think lakers will being giving too much if they gave their 2nd pick, clarkson, and randle? I dont get it……Rubio is more proven than Clarkson, Dieng as of right now is more proven, and the 1st pick is higher than the 2nd pick…..I’m confused. I don’t get your logic..
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Posted on: Mon, 06/08/2015 - 9:49pm #987559

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No way the Lakers do that. I could see the Lakers giving up the 2nd Pick and Clarkson for Cousins, but giving up ALL 3 of the Laker’s young prospects (Clarkson, Randle, Okafor/Russell) would be a big mistake long term.
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Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:26am #987430

ExumInferno
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Great trade idea.
Often trade ideas with extra teams are unbalanced, but this seems to fit all very well.
Lakers get Cousins for Okafor and Randle and Clarkson, and they would have room for a max signing or a few stars. J Hill is a team option, from what I read. If they want to do something now, while Kobe is still there, then Cousins with possible signing Love, N Young, Bryant and probably cheaper than expected Rondo might be a possible starting five.
Denver, they don’t need those older players on big money as they look to rebuild so three young and cheap players works for them.
Sacramento, if they can’t build a playoff team around Cousins they may as well try something different. The Denver veterans plus Okafor is a big change, but it might mean the coach is happier and will have better depth. Okafor, assuming he is pick 2, can already do a lot of things Cousins can in the paint. Kings have had point guard issues for a while, the trade is a big one and it might be what they need.

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Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 12:26am #987581

ExumInferno
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Great trade idea.
Often trade ideas with extra teams are unbalanced, but this seems to fit all very well.
Lakers get Cousins for Okafor and Randle and Clarkson, and they would have room for a max signing or a few stars. J Hill is a team option, from what I read. If they want to do something now, while Kobe is still there, then Cousins with possible signing Love, N Young, Bryant and probably cheaper than expected Rondo might be a possible starting five.
Denver, they don’t need those older players on big money as they look to rebuild so three young and cheap players works for them.
Sacramento, if they can’t build a playoff team around Cousins they may as well try something different. The Denver veterans plus Okafor is a big change, but it might mean the coach is happier and will have better depth. Okafor, assuming he is pick 2, can already do a lot of things Cousins can in the paint. Kings have had point guard issues for a while, the trade is a big one and it might be what they need.

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Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 6:26am #987661

zcnumerouno
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I will give you props. Most of the trade ideas on this forum are completely outlandish and unrealistic. This one seems to make sense for all parties involved, although still is a longshot. +1 to you.
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Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 6:26am #987510

zcnumerouno
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I will give you props. Most of the trade ideas on this forum are completely outlandish and unrealistic. This one seems to make sense for all parties involved, although still is a longshot. +1 to you.
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Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 8:08am #987707

Dgtool2
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This might be the first time a trade was mentioned and didn’t get a bunch of negs. Great job. I do like the trade as well.
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Posted on: Tue, 06/09/2015 - 8:08am #987556

Dgtool2
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This might be the first time a trade was mentioned and didn’t get a bunch of negs. Great job. I do like the trade as well.
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