Unenviable task of a mid-season top 25 list...

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Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 7:53am #58902

TRC1991
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The NBADRAFT.NET equivalent to social suicide: a mid-season top 25 list. It’s like asking for -10 points LOL. Anyways…if you were to rank the players 1-25 as they currently stand, here’s how I think it could go.
1) LeBron James, CLE
2) James Harden, HOU
3) Anthony Davis, NO
4) Kevin Durant, OKC
5) Stephen Curry, GS
6) Russell Westbrook, OKC
7) DeMarcus Cousins, SAC
8) LaMarcus Aldridge, POR
9) Blake Griffin, LAC
10) Damian Lillard, POR
11) Chris Paul, LAC
12) John Wall, WAS
13) Marc Gasol, MEM
14) Kyle Lowry, TOR
15) Carmelo Anthony, NY
16) Dwight Howard, HOU
17) Dwyane Wade, MIA
18) Kyrie Irving, CLE
19) Tim Duncan, SA
20) Chris Bosh, MIA
21) Pau Gasol, CHI
22) Paul Millsap, ATL
23) Kevin Love, CLE
24) Klay Thompson, GS
25) Jimmy Butler, CHI
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Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 8:00am #963401

BasketBalAllan
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For your bravery I knight you Sir TaylorCondrin
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Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 8:00am #963258

BasketBalAllan
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For your bravery I knight you Sir TaylorCondrin
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Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 8:42am #963405

Memphis Madness
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I will change it up a bit. Here is my top 25 ranking based on standings in the MVP race:

1. Steph Curry
2. James Harden
3. Marc Gasol
4. Anthony Davis
5. LeBron James
6. Klay Thompson
7. Jimmy Butler
8. Chris Paul
9. Kyle Lowry
10. John Wall
11. Damian Lillard
12. Russell Westbrook
13. LaMarcus Aldridge
14. DeMarcus Cousins
15. Pau Gasol
16. Chris Bosh
17. Blake Griffin
18. Dwight Howard
19. Mike Conley
20. Kevin Durant
21. Tim Duncan
22. Dirk Nowitzki
23. Dwyane Wade
24. Kobe Bryant
25. Monta Ellis

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Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 8:42am #963262

Memphis Madness
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I will change it up a bit. Here is my top 25 ranking based on standings in the MVP race:

1. Steph Curry
2. James Harden
3. Marc Gasol
4. Anthony Davis
5. LeBron James
6. Klay Thompson
7. Jimmy Butler
8. Chris Paul
9. Kyle Lowry
10. John Wall
11. Damian Lillard
12. Russell Westbrook
13. LaMarcus Aldridge
14. DeMarcus Cousins
15. Pau Gasol
16. Chris Bosh
17. Blake Griffin
18. Dwight Howard
19. Mike Conley
20. Kevin Durant
21. Tim Duncan
22. Dirk Nowitzki
23. Dwyane Wade
24. Kobe Bryant
25. Monta Ellis

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- Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 9:10am #963409
  
  TRC1991
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  I can’t appreciate your list sir, I’m sorry. Too many glaring, overwhelming holes…LeBron James should not be listed as the NBA’s 5th best player, regardless of the circumstance
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- Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 9:10am #963266
  
  TRC1991
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  I can’t appreciate your list sir, I’m sorry. Too many glaring, overwhelming holes…LeBron James should not be listed as the NBA’s 5th best player, regardless of the circumstance
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Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 9:37am #963413

Memphis Madness
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It’s an MVP ranking.
"BEST" guy in the league? Well, Steph Curry, Davis, LeBron, Durant, and Westbrook in some order.
Top "Trade Value" would be different too. I would say Curry and Davis are UNTRADEABLE. LeBron too, but he is older than a lot of guys. Wiggins has top 10 trade value.
Also, Wiggins might also be in the top 25 of "best guys" in the league. Already. But, the Wolves are bad which is why he is not on my list. Similar to why Kobe is low and Carmelo is nowhere to be found.
I think there is less of a separation between LeBron and some of the other top guys this year. Durant is still a bit sluggish but he is up there talent wise with everybody. I would STILL have Steph Curry at the top or VERY close to the top in ANY ranking. He is just so dangerous.
Taylor, in terms of PURE TALENT I would put James Harden around 7 behind Curry/LeBron/Durant/Davis/Westbrook. Either just ahead or just behind Chris Paul.

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Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 9:37am #963270

Memphis Madness
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It’s an MVP ranking.
"BEST" guy in the league? Well, Steph Curry, Davis, LeBron, Durant, and Westbrook in some order.
Top "Trade Value" would be different too. I would say Curry and Davis are UNTRADEABLE. LeBron too, but he is older than a lot of guys. Wiggins has top 10 trade value.
Also, Wiggins might also be in the top 25 of "best guys" in the league. Already. But, the Wolves are bad which is why he is not on my list. Similar to why Kobe is low and Carmelo is nowhere to be found.
I think there is less of a separation between LeBron and some of the other top guys this year. Durant is still a bit sluggish but he is up there talent wise with everybody. I would STILL have Steph Curry at the top or VERY close to the top in ANY ranking. He is just so dangerous.
Taylor, in terms of PURE TALENT I would put James Harden around 7 behind Curry/LeBron/Durant/Davis/Westbrook. Either just ahead or just behind Chris Paul.

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Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 3:02pm #963443

he_gets_buckets
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If this is supposed to be a MID SEASON, as in just this season ranking, then Lebron should not be #1. He has not played like the best player in the league and his team is not performing as advertised. Steph Curry or James Harden have both performed better and their teams are experiencing greater success. "Lebron James should not be listed as the NBA’s 5th best player, regardless of circumstance" my friend, you aren’t asking for a mid-season ranking then, because that is based entirely off circumstance, and LeBron has not been the number 1 player in the league.

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Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 3:02pm #963299

he_gets_buckets
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If this is supposed to be a MID SEASON, as in just this season ranking, then Lebron should not be #1. He has not played like the best player in the league and his team is not performing as advertised. Steph Curry or James Harden have both performed better and their teams are experiencing greater success. "Lebron James should not be listed as the NBA’s 5th best player, regardless of circumstance" my friend, you aren’t asking for a mid-season ranking then, because that is based entirely off circumstance, and LeBron has not been the number 1 player in the league.

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- Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 9:33pm #963331
  
  TRC1991
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  I’m not using this season as the only thing that goes into the ratings. If that were the case, Paul George would be the 451st best player in the NBA
  Use your head…
  This season is taken into consideration, sure, but I’m also weighing every reasonable aspect to rank them.
  No, LeBron hasn’t been the best THIS SEASON…he’s still the best in the NBA.
  
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  - Posted on: Thu, 01/22/2015 - 4:09am #963598
    
    Jr. ROXAS
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    SO if this ISN’T a "Mid-season top 25", which you just stated, then why ISN’T Paul George in your list? He defiitely is a top 25 player regardless of circumstance… Don’t tell someone to use his head when you don’t use your’s.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 01/22/2015 - 4:09am #963454
    
    Jr. ROXAS
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    SO if this ISN’T a "Mid-season top 25", which you just stated, then why ISN’T Paul George in your list? He defiitely is a top 25 player regardless of circumstance… Don’t tell someone to use his head when you don’t use your’s.
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- Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 9:33pm #963475
  
  TRC1991
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  I’m not using this season as the only thing that goes into the ratings. If that were the case, Paul George would be the 451st best player in the NBA
  Use your head…
  This season is taken into consideration, sure, but I’m also weighing every reasonable aspect to rank them.
  No, LeBron hasn’t been the best THIS SEASON…he’s still the best in the NBA.
  
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Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 3:34pm #963451
mixtape2003
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1. Steph Curry
2. James Harden
3. Lebron James
4. Anthony Davis
5. Russell Westbrook
6. Marc Gasol
7. Jimmy Butler
8. Klay Thompson
9. Damian Lillard
10. Kyle Lowry
11. Lamarcus Aldridge
12. Blake Griffin
13. Monta Ellis
14. Mike Conely
15. Pau Gasol
16. Demarcus Cousins
17. Chris Paul
18. Deandre Jordan
19. Ty Lawson
20. Chris Bosh
21. Dwayne Wade
22. Jeff Teague
23. Nikola Vucevic
24. Carmelo Anthony
25. Kobe Bryant
honorable mentions ( Kyle Krover, Paul Milsap, Kemba Walker, Goran Dragic, Draymond Green)
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Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 3:34pm #963307
mixtape2003
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1. Steph Curry
2. James Harden
3. Lebron James
4. Anthony Davis
5. Russell Westbrook
6. Marc Gasol
7. Jimmy Butler
8. Klay Thompson
9. Damian Lillard
10. Kyle Lowry
11. Lamarcus Aldridge
12. Blake Griffin
13. Monta Ellis
14. Mike Conely
15. Pau Gasol
16. Demarcus Cousins
17. Chris Paul
18. Deandre Jordan
19. Ty Lawson
20. Chris Bosh
21. Dwayne Wade
22. Jeff Teague
23. Nikola Vucevic
24. Carmelo Anthony
25. Kobe Bryant
honorable mentions ( Kyle Krover, Paul Milsap, Kemba Walker, Goran Dragic, Draymond Green)
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- Posted on: Wed, 01/21/2015 - 5:28am #963351
  
  BubbaChuck
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  Kyle Korver > Kobe Bryant
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  - Posted on: Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:25pm #963424
    
    Scrooge McDuck
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    Was that a joke? Korver is one of my favorite players, but Kobe is playing very well this year. In my opinion Byron Scott and the rest of he team is killing them. Korver is taking advantage of the system which fits him perfectly. This is an individual list not a team list.
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    - Posted on: Thu, 01/22/2015 - 3:21am #963592
      
      BubbaChuck
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      2013-14:
      Bryant- 37.3 FG%, 29.3 3FG%, 81.3 FT%, 12.8 misses per game! 3.7 turnover per game, players don’t like playing with him, team losing.
      Korver- 51.8 FG%, 53.5 3FG%, 92.2 FT% 3.8 misses per game, 1.5 turnovers per game, players like playing with him, team winning.
      2013-14 Advanced stats:
      Bryant- 1.8 OBP (Offensive Box Plus/Minus), -1.2 DBP (Defensive Box Plus/Minus)
      Korver- 3.7 OBP, 0.4 DBP
      
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    - Posted on: Thu, 01/22/2015 - 3:21am #963448
      
      BubbaChuck
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      2013-14:
      Bryant- 37.3 FG%, 29.3 3FG%, 81.3 FT%, 12.8 misses per game! 3.7 turnover per game, players don’t like playing with him, team losing.
      Korver- 51.8 FG%, 53.5 3FG%, 92.2 FT% 3.8 misses per game, 1.5 turnovers per game, players like playing with him, team winning.
      2013-14 Advanced stats:
      Bryant- 1.8 OBP (Offensive Box Plus/Minus), -1.2 DBP (Defensive Box Plus/Minus)
      Korver- 3.7 OBP, 0.4 DBP
      
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  - Posted on: Wed, 01/21/2015 - 7:25pm #963568
    
    Scrooge McDuck
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    Was that a joke? Korver is one of my favorite players, but Kobe is playing very well this year. In my opinion Byron Scott and the rest of he team is killing them. Korver is taking advantage of the system which fits him perfectly. This is an individual list not a team list.
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- Posted on: Wed, 01/21/2015 - 5:28am #963495
  
  BubbaChuck
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  Kyle Korver > Kobe Bryant
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Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 7:16pm #963463

CU.LIONS
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How’s this for a thought, when was the last time a top 25 list DIDN’T have a Celtic player on it. With Kobe barely or arguably not top 25, can you imagine a league with No Celtic or Laker on it?
First time ever?
The NBA is doing great right now, but somehow I think having a great player on Boston and LA makes the league that much better IMO.
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Posted on: Tue, 01/20/2015 - 7:16pm #963319

CU.LIONS
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How’s this for a thought, when was the last time a top 25 list DIDN’T have a Celtic player on it. With Kobe barely or arguably not top 25, can you imagine a league with No Celtic or Laker on it?
First time ever?
The NBA is doing great right now, but somehow I think having a great player on Boston and LA makes the league that much better IMO.
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Posted on: Wed, 01/21/2015 - 8:08am #963367

IndianaBasketball
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I don’t mind the OP’s list. I 1 up’d him just because he spent his time making one.
However, I’d take Kevin Durant over James Harden every day of the week.
Anthony Davis is excellent, but he’s somewhat overrated. Below average with his back to the basket and a below average passer. He’s a defensive stat sheet stuffer, but opponents are shooting 50% against him at the rim. Is he better than DeMarcus Cousins? I don’t think so… I think it’s arguable if Davis is better than Lamarcus Aldridge.
Pau Gasol. He’s a top 15 player. I personally think he’s a better basketball player than Blake Griffin, who’s ranked 9th. Better rebounder, defender and more skilled offensively. I think Gasol, should be close to Marc Gasol.
I know his past statistics and that he’s currently playing a 3rd option role, but I think it’s arguable Kevin Love isn’t a top 25 player right now.
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Posted on: Wed, 01/21/2015 - 8:08am #963512

IndianaBasketball
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I don’t mind the OP’s list. I 1 up’d him just because he spent his time making one.
However, I’d take Kevin Durant over James Harden every day of the week.
Anthony Davis is excellent, but he’s somewhat overrated. Below average with his back to the basket and a below average passer. He’s a defensive stat sheet stuffer, but opponents are shooting 50% against him at the rim. Is he better than DeMarcus Cousins? I don’t think so… I think it’s arguable if Davis is better than Lamarcus Aldridge.
Pau Gasol. He’s a top 15 player. I personally think he’s a better basketball player than Blake Griffin, who’s ranked 9th. Better rebounder, defender and more skilled offensively. I think Gasol, should be close to Marc Gasol.
I know his past statistics and that he’s currently playing a 3rd option role, but I think it’s arguable Kevin Love isn’t a top 25 player right now.
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