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- Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 7:31am #58880

The Scare Crow RisesParticipantWhether you like the combo of McW and Wroten in the backcourt or not, one thing is for sure…
The Philadelphia 76ers need a Leader in the starting line up, one who can extend the defense and make the players around him better…It brings my attention to a guy I’ve seen emerging as a Dark Horse prospect, who could project as a very good Sg with Pg skills, a guy who could start at Sg and take the pressure off McW and Tony Wroten to be the sole offensive threats on the roster(Joel will be a force in due time)
I know the Top 3-5 draft range is a little high for Russell, at the moment at least, but his intangibles are very interesting…
What about trading up with the Miami pick? Currently the 16th pick(It will be no higher than 18 IMO, too many good Teams out West…)Would a deal centered on The Miami pick plus some 2nd round picks and a Top 10 Protected 1st in 2016/2017 be enough to land a pick in the 7-10 range???
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 7:55am #962925
Magic JordanParticipantI personally think that if Mudiay, Okafor and Towns are all off the board, Russell has to be considered in the group right after them so I don’t think it would be too high. He’s a player.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 7:55am #963066
Magic JordanParticipantI personally think that if Mudiay, Okafor and Towns are all off the board, Russell has to be considered in the group right after them so I don’t think it would be too high. He’s a player.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 8:06am #962927
ballislyfe25ParticipantAfter Okafor and Mudiay, Russell might be the best prospect for Philadelphia. His ability to space the floor and knock down the three is something the Sixers need, and he has good size for his off-ball position at 6’5. His game is smooth and reminds me of Jeremy Lamb, except Russell is a bit smoother and has better handles and possibly a better shot. He looks like a natural shooter and his offensive talent and he would take a lot of pressure off of Michael Carter-Williams.
I agree that the 3-5 picks may be a little high so trading up could always be an option with that Miami pick. They could always trade down a few spots from the 3-5 range and pick up an extra "asset" or two but if they really like him they should just take him and not risk someone else taking him.
I’m just starting to watch college basketball this season, so how do you think he compares to guys like Kelly Oubre and Stanley Johnson?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 8:06am #963068
ballislyfe25ParticipantAfter Okafor and Mudiay, Russell might be the best prospect for Philadelphia. His ability to space the floor and knock down the three is something the Sixers need, and he has good size for his off-ball position at 6’5. His game is smooth and reminds me of Jeremy Lamb, except Russell is a bit smoother and has better handles and possibly a better shot. He looks like a natural shooter and his offensive talent and he would take a lot of pressure off of Michael Carter-Williams.
I agree that the 3-5 picks may be a little high so trading up could always be an option with that Miami pick. They could always trade down a few spots from the 3-5 range and pick up an extra "asset" or two but if they really like him they should just take him and not risk someone else taking him.
I’m just starting to watch college basketball this season, so how do you think he compares to guys like Kelly Oubre and Stanley Johnson?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 8:32am #963072

MopgrassParticipantFirst off, let’s give MCW some credit: they’ve got 6 wins and 7 losses over their last 13. If they beat the Pistons tonight, they’d be at .500 in the last 14. Many here complain MCW gets all those assists and rebounds on a team where it doesn’t count because they don’t win. What’s the argument now? He turns the ball over and can’t shoot, but the turnovers are inflated because there aren’t a lot of teamates worth passing to. Some of the Sixers are stepping it up. They might be able to catch the Lakers and possibly the Celtics.
I’d like them to avoid drafting another big man unless they trade one. Mudiay is a great option because he can play the 2 also (though they need someone who can hit 3’s. Trading up with their other 1st draft pick could net them Oubre, a type of player they could really use. They also might be able to trade one of their centers or draft a center first and flip him for someone like Shabazz: someone who can drive and hit from the outside.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 8:32am #962931

MopgrassParticipantFirst off, let’s give MCW some credit: they’ve got 6 wins and 7 losses over their last 13. If they beat the Pistons tonight, they’d be at .500 in the last 14. Many here complain MCW gets all those assists and rebounds on a team where it doesn’t count because they don’t win. What’s the argument now? He turns the ball over and can’t shoot, but the turnovers are inflated because there aren’t a lot of teamates worth passing to. Some of the Sixers are stepping it up. They might be able to catch the Lakers and possibly the Celtics.
I’d like them to avoid drafting another big man unless they trade one. Mudiay is a great option because he can play the 2 also (though they need someone who can hit 3’s. Trading up with their other 1st draft pick could net them Oubre, a type of player they could really use. They also might be able to trade one of their centers or draft a center first and flip him for someone like Shabazz: someone who can drive and hit from the outside.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 9:05am #963074

Lebron’s HairlineParticipantRussel with their first pick and Oubre with their second first round pick would be a major coup for the 76ers
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 9:05am #962933

Lebron’s HairlineParticipantRussel with their first pick and Oubre with their second first round pick would be a major coup for the 76ers
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 9:18am #963076
Lotto StudParticipantD’Angelo Russell more Brandon Roy or Goran Dragic?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 9:18am #962935
Lotto StudParticipantD’Angelo Russell more Brandon Roy or Goran Dragic?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:35am #963090
ballislyfe25ParticipantWatching him now against Iowa, it’s clear that he is not a main ballhandler and would play really well with a point like MCW. He’s essentially playing the point for OSU out of necessity and is much more effective off the ball. Being the de facto PG this year should help his development and benefit him in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:35am #962949
ballislyfe25ParticipantWatching him now against Iowa, it’s clear that he is not a main ballhandler and would play really well with a point like MCW. He’s essentially playing the point for OSU out of necessity and is much more effective off the ball. Being the de facto PG this year should help his development and benefit him in the NBA.
0- Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:56am #963092

festar35ParticipantShannon Scott is clearly the PG for Ohio St, Russell fills that spot from time to time when he is off the floor. Scott averages 7apg and plays along side Russell, he will bring the ball up with Scott on the floor as well, but mainly in fast break situations and will still fill the wing in the half court.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:56am #962951

festar35ParticipantShannon Scott is clearly the PG for Ohio St, Russell fills that spot from time to time when he is off the floor. Scott averages 7apg and plays along side Russell, he will bring the ball up with Scott on the floor as well, but mainly in fast break situations and will still fill the wing in the half court.
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- Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 11:24am #963098

Sewok15ParticipantI would be fine with the Sixers taking him as high as 3rd. They desperately need shooting and clearly their roster is in need of another guard much more than a big guy. He also seems like somebody who can contribute immediately so he can help the Sixers compete for a playoff spot next year with a healthy Embiid and hopefully Saric comes over as well.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 11:24am #962957

Sewok15ParticipantI would be fine with the Sixers taking him as high as 3rd. They desperately need shooting and clearly their roster is in need of another guard much more than a big guy. He also seems like somebody who can contribute immediately so he can help the Sixers compete for a playoff spot next year with a healthy Embiid and hopefully Saric comes over as well.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 1:47pm #963106
B-ball fanParticipantI guess I am just not nearly as high on Russell as everyone else is. I don’t think Philly should draft for need, since few of the players on their roster are long-term impact players. They may have a future starter at PG, PF and Center, but I doubt they do at all three.
If the team thinks Russell really is a top-5 prospect, then he would be the right pick. But I don’t think his stock should be elevated just because he is more perimeter oriented than the other elite prospects. And while his court vision and outside shooting are nice, he still has questions to answer about his finishing at the rim, shot selection and ability to perform against elite competition. I do not think he is on the same tier as Okafor, Towns, Johnson or Mudiay.
The Sixers recent success is nice, but they are a long way from being a genuine playoff contender. Many terrible teams have the occasional stretch of mediocrity.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 1:47pm #962965
B-ball fanParticipantI guess I am just not nearly as high on Russell as everyone else is. I don’t think Philly should draft for need, since few of the players on their roster are long-term impact players. They may have a future starter at PG, PF and Center, but I doubt they do at all three.
If the team thinks Russell really is a top-5 prospect, then he would be the right pick. But I don’t think his stock should be elevated just because he is more perimeter oriented than the other elite prospects. And while his court vision and outside shooting are nice, he still has questions to answer about his finishing at the rim, shot selection and ability to perform against elite competition. I do not think he is on the same tier as Okafor, Towns, Johnson or Mudiay.
The Sixers recent success is nice, but they are a long way from being a genuine playoff contender. Many terrible teams have the occasional stretch of mediocrity.
0- Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 2:45pm #963112
Lotto StudParticipantI haven’t caught the wave just yet, because I’m transitioning from football. What I do like is his ability to pass the ball in advance. Defenders are napping or he’s just that sneaky with it.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 2:45pm #962971
Lotto StudParticipantI haven’t caught the wave just yet, because I’m transitioning from football. What I do like is his ability to pass the ball in advance. Defenders are napping or he’s just that sneaky with it.
0- Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 4:45pm #963126
B-ball fanParticipantI didn’t see him over the first few games of the season, so the first time I saw him play was vs. Louisville. His shot was not falling and his strength and athleticism did not wow me, but he did make some great look-ahead passes and some excellent tough angle dump-offs in transition.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 4:45pm #962985
B-ball fanParticipantI didn’t see him over the first few games of the season, so the first time I saw him play was vs. Louisville. His shot was not falling and his strength and athleticism did not wow me, but he did make some great look-ahead passes and some excellent tough angle dump-offs in transition.
0- Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 5:02pm #963134
Lotto StudParticipantBy all means, I am not comparing the two players to an identical match, but I hope Russell does not rub off in the fashion as Evan Turner. I always thought Turner would have been better suited as a facilitator with the same role from Ohio State (NCAA Penny) but the Sixers screwed that one up by placing the burden upon his shoulders as the #1 option once they dumped Iguodala.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 5:02pm #962993
Lotto StudParticipantBy all means, I am not comparing the two players to an identical match, but I hope Russell does not rub off in the fashion as Evan Turner. I always thought Turner would have been better suited as a facilitator with the same role from Ohio State (NCAA Penny) but the Sixers screwed that one up by placing the burden upon his shoulders as the #1 option once they dumped Iguodala.
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- Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 3:28pm #963118
EndlessknightParticipantI’d rather gamble on the chance that Russell is still there the Heat’s pick then draft him in the top five. I’m almost certain one of Russell, Hezonja, LeVert or Oubre will still be there by 15/16 and in my book their all similar level wing prospects.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 3:28pm #962977
EndlessknightParticipantI’d rather gamble on the chance that Russell is still there the Heat’s pick then draft him in the top five. I’m almost certain one of Russell, Hezonja, LeVert or Oubre will still be there by 15/16 and in my book their all similar level wing prospects.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 4:58pm #963130
kdtriv01ParticipantI believe he is a good player and next year he could be a top five pick. This year… I don’t think so. If your picking in the top five you should take a sure fire talent and not draft for "need" but best player available. I’m not sure he is the BPA at five, but lets give him time till the end of the season and then revisit this topic.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 4:58pm #962989
kdtriv01ParticipantI believe he is a good player and next year he could be a top five pick. This year… I don’t think so. If your picking in the top five you should take a sure fire talent and not draft for "need" but best player available. I’m not sure he is the BPA at five, but lets give him time till the end of the season and then revisit this topic.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 6:08pm #963142
Rip255I think D’Angelo is actually a top 5 pick based on talent level alone. His stock will fall because he doesn’t have standout athleticism or size, but he’s got that ability to always remain in control and make the right play.
I’m higher on him than most, but the guy just know’s what it takes to win and could see him being an unselfish 20ppg player in the Bradley Beal mould.
As for Philly, I’m yet to see any players on their roster that have impressed me. I realise they are all still young, and some of them might be All-Stars….but I’m not seeing it. In fact, the only one I like is Dario Saric and my bet is that he never lines up in a 76ers uniform.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 6:08pm #963001
Rip255I think D’Angelo is actually a top 5 pick based on talent level alone. His stock will fall because he doesn’t have standout athleticism or size, but he’s got that ability to always remain in control and make the right play.
I’m higher on him than most, but the guy just know’s what it takes to win and could see him being an unselfish 20ppg player in the Bradley Beal mould.
As for Philly, I’m yet to see any players on their roster that have impressed me. I realise they are all still young, and some of them might be All-Stars….but I’m not seeing it. In fact, the only one I like is Dario Saric and my bet is that he never lines up in a 76ers uniform.
0- Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 8:35pm #963162

OhCanada-ParticipantI think Russell would be a great fit for the 76ers. I think Okafor is without a doubt ahead of everyone else. Mudiay is a wild card yet seems to be right after Okafor. After that Stanley Johnson has proven he belongs amongst the best along with Russell, Winslow, Turner, Towns, WCS, and Looney. Oubre seems like a player that could sneak into the high lottery.
If they don’t go BPA it is hard to argue Russell is the best fit. His blend of playmaking and scoring and abillity to create good shot attempts for himself and others out of nothing is a rare skill that is valued. Although Johnson or Winslow would also be great fits as glue guys which would be important as the team develops. I like Oubre as a sleeper and think he will reemerge as a top prospect late in the season.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 8:35pm #963021

OhCanada-ParticipantI think Russell would be a great fit for the 76ers. I think Okafor is without a doubt ahead of everyone else. Mudiay is a wild card yet seems to be right after Okafor. After that Stanley Johnson has proven he belongs amongst the best along with Russell, Winslow, Turner, Towns, WCS, and Looney. Oubre seems like a player that could sneak into the high lottery.
If they don’t go BPA it is hard to argue Russell is the best fit. His blend of playmaking and scoring and abillity to create good shot attempts for himself and others out of nothing is a rare skill that is valued. Although Johnson or Winslow would also be great fits as glue guys which would be important as the team develops. I like Oubre as a sleeper and think he will reemerge as a top prospect late in the season.
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- Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:03pm #963164

Mr. 19134ParticipantYes, Russel, Johnson and Hezonja are my favorite targets for the Sixers. Russel reminds me of Ray Allens Sonic days. But I feel like Mario Hezonja is the best wing prospect in the draft. His size, athleticism, shooting, and finishing ability are elite for a SG prospect.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/17/2015 - 10:03pm #963023

Mr. 19134ParticipantYes, Russel, Johnson and Hezonja are my favorite targets for the Sixers. Russel reminds me of Ray Allens Sonic days. But I feel like Mario Hezonja is the best wing prospect in the draft. His size, athleticism, shooting, and finishing ability are elite for a SG prospect.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 01/18/2015 - 4:24am #963172

TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipantTop 5 seems high but I believe he would be a good fit. Maybe they try to move up to pick 8 or 9 using a top 5 protected pick. Guards that can shoot and defend are better than guards that can’t do one of those. Point or combo guards that cant shoot are going to be albatrosses in the League in the next few years.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 01/18/2015 - 4:24am #963031

TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipantTop 5 seems high but I believe he would be a good fit. Maybe they try to move up to pick 8 or 9 using a top 5 protected pick. Guards that can shoot and defend are better than guards that can’t do one of those. Point or combo guards that cant shoot are going to be albatrosses in the League in the next few years.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/19/2015 - 8:25am #963151

HitsterParticipantA lot could depend what happens in the lottery as Philly are currently 3rd, if they fall down the draft board a bit lets say to 5th then Russell will not be such a reach. I like the idea of his 3 point range on the 76ers roster and his intangibles look really good.
If the 76ers stay in the top 3 of the lottery, I don’t see Hinkie wanting to trade down as I think in their current situation they almost have to take BPA and with two first rounders this year, they would not want another first round pick given the amount of young guys on their roster. Embiid has yet to play in the NBA, Saric needs to come over add on another 3 or so rookies and the team almost becomes too young.
The only way I can see Hinkie trading down would be if he was offered an unprotected future first rounder as part of any deal.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/19/2015 - 8:25am #963293

HitsterParticipantA lot could depend what happens in the lottery as Philly are currently 3rd, if they fall down the draft board a bit lets say to 5th then Russell will not be such a reach. I like the idea of his 3 point range on the 76ers roster and his intangibles look really good.
If the 76ers stay in the top 3 of the lottery, I don’t see Hinkie wanting to trade down as I think in their current situation they almost have to take BPA and with two first rounders this year, they would not want another first round pick given the amount of young guys on their roster. Embiid has yet to play in the NBA, Saric needs to come over add on another 3 or so rookies and the team almost becomes too young.
The only way I can see Hinkie trading down would be if he was offered an unprotected future first rounder as part of any deal.
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