If the 2015 Draft were tomorrow... (Sixers are OTC)

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Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2014 - 7:27pm #58401

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As Jigsaw said above… "Let’s play a game!"
If the Draft were tomorrow, knowing that the Sixers have the #1 overall pick, who do they actually consider selecting according to the current roster?
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Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2014 - 7:50pm #955432

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Jahlil Okafor is the clear standout, but they have Noel and Embiid with Saric in tow.
Mudiay is doing well in China, but they have MCW.
I’d go with Stanley Johnson. He has a high motor and will teach the team how to WIN!

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Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2014 - 7:50pm #955575

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Jahlil Okafor is the clear standout, but they have Noel and Embiid with Saric in tow.
Mudiay is doing well in China, but they have MCW.
I’d go with Stanley Johnson. He has a high motor and will teach the team how to WIN!

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Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2014 - 8:48pm #955434

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Kelly Oubre
Need wing Talent and Star power.. Kelly has Paul George or Rudy Gay type potential all over him. Would fit perfect with the Sixers young bigs and two young guards in Wroten and MCW

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Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2014 - 8:48pm #955577

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Kelly Oubre
Need wing Talent and Star power.. Kelly has Paul George or Rudy Gay type potential all over him. Would fit perfect with the Sixers young bigs and two young guards in Wroten and MCW

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Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2014 - 8:48pm #955436

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Okafor reminds me of guys like Kanter and Sullinger. They maybe quick for thier size but they are unable to gaurd PFs on a regular basis.Would he be the right person to pair with Noel, and Embiid.
I strongly believe 76ers will draft whichever player seperates themselves from the pack with longterm upside regardless of position. I believe Karl Towns will seperate himself from the pack and be selected 1st overall. Big men do great in Calipari’s system and he seems to put alot of talented bigs into the league as well.
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Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2014 - 8:48pm #955579

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Okafor reminds me of guys like Kanter and Sullinger. They maybe quick for thier size but they are unable to gaurd PFs on a regular basis.Would he be the right person to pair with Noel, and Embiid.
I strongly believe 76ers will draft whichever player seperates themselves from the pack with longterm upside regardless of position. I believe Karl Towns will seperate himself from the pack and be selected 1st overall. Big men do great in Calipari’s system and he seems to put alot of talented bigs into the league as well.
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Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2014 - 9:15pm #955438

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If Kelly Oubre continues to knock down the three ball like he has been, they need to go that direction. Their wing spots are suuuuuper thin on talent. MCW, Wroten, Thompson and McDaniels are the only guys who should be on NBA rosters. Period. They could use more depth on the inside but they have another 1st rounder from Miami I believe, where talented bigs should be available.
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Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2014 - 9:15pm #955581

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If Kelly Oubre continues to knock down the three ball like he has been, they need to go that direction. Their wing spots are suuuuuper thin on talent. MCW, Wroten, Thompson and McDaniels are the only guys who should be on NBA rosters. Period. They could use more depth on the inside but they have another 1st rounder from Miami I believe, where talented bigs should be available.
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Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2014 - 10:39pm #955440

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Don’t think they are even considering anyone but Mudiay. MCW is expendable.
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Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2014 - 10:39pm #955583

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Don’t think they are even considering anyone but Mudiay. MCW is expendable.
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Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2014 - 10:41pm #955442

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Embiid and Noel, although both unrpoven, seem like the future of the frontcourt for Philly.
They have MCW and Wroten who are very similar and both are point guards
They have terrible wings, the worst set of wings in the NBA. I think they’d take Mudiay, then trade Carter-Williams for some veteran shooting

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- Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 6:03am #955456
  
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  "They have terrible wings, the worst set of wings in the NBA. I think they’d take Mudiay, then trade Carter-Williams for some veteran shooting"
  Possibly gift wrap him over to the Pelicans again, this time for Eric Gordon(WOOOSAH)
  
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- Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 6:03am #955599
  
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  "They have terrible wings, the worst set of wings in the NBA. I think they’d take Mudiay, then trade Carter-Williams for some veteran shooting"
  Possibly gift wrap him over to the Pelicans again, this time for Eric Gordon(WOOOSAH)
  
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Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2014 - 10:41pm #955585

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Embiid and Noel, although both unrpoven, seem like the future of the frontcourt for Philly.
They have MCW and Wroten who are very similar and both are point guards
They have terrible wings, the worst set of wings in the NBA. I think they’d take Mudiay, then trade Carter-Williams for some veteran shooting

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Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 6:29am #955458

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I think Philly should go with Mudiay. I feel he’s the most poised to come in and make a difference, plus although the 76ers have MCW and Wroten, the rest of their guard lineup drops off quite a bit after that, and they could easily run a 3 guard rotation as all 4 guys are at least 6’5” and have 2 position ability.
Okafor would be tempting, as would Towns, but Joel and Noel could be a really dynamic tandem, and adding a slower half court oriented guy doesn’t really fit as well as adding another guard. Philly would be an awful half court team, so adding Okafor wouldn’t be the best move IMO. They’re fast, they have backcourt fluidity, and they have bigs who can run.
A guard rotation of MCW, Wroten, and Mudiay with Luc Richard and K.J. being available to defend opposing wings, and Joel and Noel to defend the post and this may be a somewhat competitive team next year, capable of winning 25-30 games, and then turning around and getting Saric the next year in addition to who they pick up in the 2016 lottery.
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- Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 7:12am #955464
  
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  have to agree with you on mudiay’s impact, especially if they are sitting at the #1 pick. as far as okafor/towns, i think it’s also fair to note that saric is seen by many as a pf so they already have 3 rotational frontcourt players that they are invested in. no real point to draft a big because noel, embiid and saric have relatively no trade value since none have really played.
  i think oubre and johnson are too much of a reach at this point. the name that chad ford keeps saying will move up the boards is kevin looney out of ucla but i think that would be a reach unless looney puts up jabari parker type numbers this year as a perimeter player.
  if the season ended today, i’d also consider trading down with a team like the nuggets or knicks where there are expendable assets on both teams. then, drafting a wing won’t be as much of a reach. then, throw the bank at free agents. i really think a guy that would fit in nicely is brandon knight as a sg.
  
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- Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 7:12am #955607
  
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  have to agree with you on mudiay’s impact, especially if they are sitting at the #1 pick. as far as okafor/towns, i think it’s also fair to note that saric is seen by many as a pf so they already have 3 rotational frontcourt players that they are invested in. no real point to draft a big because noel, embiid and saric have relatively no trade value since none have really played.
  i think oubre and johnson are too much of a reach at this point. the name that chad ford keeps saying will move up the boards is kevin looney out of ucla but i think that would be a reach unless looney puts up jabari parker type numbers this year as a perimeter player.
  if the season ended today, i’d also consider trading down with a team like the nuggets or knicks where there are expendable assets on both teams. then, drafting a wing won’t be as much of a reach. then, throw the bank at free agents. i really think a guy that would fit in nicely is brandon knight as a sg.
  
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- Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 7:49am #955470
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  I like your pitch of a 3-Guard rotational pull, but can you give a brief breakdown of each guy in the sense of strengths and weaknesses of playing off the ball?
  - MCW – Strengths/Weaknesses overall at the 2?
  - MCW the 2-Guard with Wroten at the 1?
  - MCW the 2-Guard with Mudiay at the 1?
  - Wroten – Strengths/Weaknesses overall at the 2?
  - Wroten the 2-Guard with MCW at the 1?
  - Wroten the 2-Guard with Mudiay at the 1?
  - Mudiay – Strengths/Weaknesses overall at the 2?
  - Mudiay the 2-Guard with MCW at the 1?
  - Mudiay the 2-Guard with Wroten at the 1?
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  - Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 8:51am #955476
    
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    MCW’s biggest strength at the two guard is defense, and playing the passing lanes. At 6’6” and possessing an 8’5” standing reach, he’s got great size for guarding the two spot and would be a good off guard faciliator. His major weakness would be his outside shooting. He’s just not good, and spacing would suffer. I think ideally he’d be the point guard.
    Tony Wroten can play the point at times because he’s a creative passer, but he can often over dribble and he’s still turnover prone (4.5 per game in 14-15 ) but he’s become a respectable outside shooter and would be more effective than MCW as a shooting guard, because he has more ability to spread the floor (.368% this year ) and like MCW has the size to guard most NBA shooting guards.
    I think Mudiay will be better than both long term, as he is a better shooter than both players ( .471 from 3 in China, although from a small sample size ), and a better distributer and natural point guard than Wroten. I think of all three players he’d have the most success as a SG because he can spread the floor, and although the youngest player has the strongest frame and will most likely be the strongest as he matures. I think he’s similar to Victor Oladipo and could have success in a fluid backcourt where he could play both guard positions.
    To make this lineup work, I think you’d need to have MCW to split time at the point with Mudiay, and Wroten and Mudiay to split time at the 2 spot. Tony is a talented player, but I think he’s best used as a shooting guard, and MCW is a big point, but just can’t well enough to be effective at the 2 spot.
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    - Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 10:42am #955494
      
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      I really dig your breakdown.
      As an early childhood supporter of the Sixers, this would be a huge stepping stone for those who are the core supporters now. I’m huge as can be on Wroten as a player for the claims I’ve attached to his abilities. Mudiay in a sense is what Austin Powers is to Mini-Me(Kyrie Irving)… Bigger is better. MCW is dope as can be. I just wish he would not defer as much with this roster to create that killer instinct in building a solid character if he’s ever in playoff contention.
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    - Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 10:42am #955636
      
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      I really dig your breakdown.
      As an early childhood supporter of the Sixers, this would be a huge stepping stone for those who are the core supporters now. I’m huge as can be on Wroten as a player for the claims I’ve attached to his abilities. Mudiay in a sense is what Austin Powers is to Mini-Me(Kyrie Irving)… Bigger is better. MCW is dope as can be. I just wish he would not defer as much with this roster to create that killer instinct in building a solid character if he’s ever in playoff contention.
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  - Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 8:51am #955619
    
    JoeWolf1
    MCW’s biggest strength at the two guard is defense, and playing the passing lanes. At 6’6” and possessing an 8’5” standing reach, he’s got great size for guarding the two spot and would be a good off guard faciliator. His major weakness would be his outside shooting. He’s just not good, and spacing would suffer. I think ideally he’d be the point guard.
    Tony Wroten can play the point at times because he’s a creative passer, but he can often over dribble and he’s still turnover prone (4.5 per game in 14-15 ) but he’s become a respectable outside shooter and would be more effective than MCW as a shooting guard, because he has more ability to spread the floor (.368% this year ) and like MCW has the size to guard most NBA shooting guards.
    I think Mudiay will be better than both long term, as he is a better shooter than both players ( .471 from 3 in China, although from a small sample size ), and a better distributer and natural point guard than Wroten. I think of all three players he’d have the most success as a SG because he can spread the floor, and although the youngest player has the strongest frame and will most likely be the strongest as he matures. I think he’s similar to Victor Oladipo and could have success in a fluid backcourt where he could play both guard positions.
    To make this lineup work, I think you’d need to have MCW to split time at the point with Mudiay, and Wroten and Mudiay to split time at the 2 spot. Tony is a talented player, but I think he’s best used as a shooting guard, and MCW is a big point, but just can’t well enough to be effective at the 2 spot.
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- Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 7:49am #955613
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  I like your pitch of a 3-Guard rotational pull, but can you give a brief breakdown of each guy in the sense of strengths and weaknesses of playing off the ball?
  - MCW – Strengths/Weaknesses overall at the 2?
  - MCW the 2-Guard with Wroten at the 1?
  - MCW the 2-Guard with Mudiay at the 1?
  - Wroten – Strengths/Weaknesses overall at the 2?
  - Wroten the 2-Guard with MCW at the 1?
  - Wroten the 2-Guard with Mudiay at the 1?
  - Mudiay – Strengths/Weaknesses overall at the 2?
  - Mudiay the 2-Guard with MCW at the 1?
  - Mudiay the 2-Guard with Wroten at the 1?
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Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 6:29am #955601

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I think Philly should go with Mudiay. I feel he’s the most poised to come in and make a difference, plus although the 76ers have MCW and Wroten, the rest of their guard lineup drops off quite a bit after that, and they could easily run a 3 guard rotation as all 4 guys are at least 6’5” and have 2 position ability.
Okafor would be tempting, as would Towns, but Joel and Noel could be a really dynamic tandem, and adding a slower half court oriented guy doesn’t really fit as well as adding another guard. Philly would be an awful half court team, so adding Okafor wouldn’t be the best move IMO. They’re fast, they have backcourt fluidity, and they have bigs who can run.
A guard rotation of MCW, Wroten, and Mudiay with Luc Richard and K.J. being available to defend opposing wings, and Joel and Noel to defend the post and this may be a somewhat competitive team next year, capable of winning 25-30 games, and then turning around and getting Saric the next year in addition to who they pick up in the 2016 lottery.
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Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 6:37am #955462

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I think that the only consideration is long term upside of the prospect.
If they get the first pick they will either draft the player with the highest upside or trade down for a better fit.
Okafor is the number 1 choice today imo, followed by Towns, Mudiay and then Oubre. Things may change throughout the course of the season though.
Oubre is easily the one that fits the teams needs the best, but they would be nuts to take him number 1 unless he really dominates at Kansas, and I don’t expect that he will.
Okafor and Towns both fit with Embiid better than Noel does and they are both better prospects in general than Noel so I would not let Noel’s presence deter us from taking either of them.
We just need talent.

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Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 6:37am #955605

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I think that the only consideration is long term upside of the prospect.
If they get the first pick they will either draft the player with the highest upside or trade down for a better fit.
Okafor is the number 1 choice today imo, followed by Towns, Mudiay and then Oubre. Things may change throughout the course of the season though.
Oubre is easily the one that fits the teams needs the best, but they would be nuts to take him number 1 unless he really dominates at Kansas, and I don’t expect that he will.
Okafor and Towns both fit with Embiid better than Noel does and they are both better prospects in general than Noel so I would not let Noel’s presence deter us from taking either of them.
We just need talent.

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Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 10:13am #955490

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I know it would be a reach at number one, but Stanley Johnson, with his position, skillset, work ethic and character are what the Sixers need to reestablish a strong team culture and identity.
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- Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 11:28am #955498
  
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  If they fall in love with Stanley Johnson then they would have to trade down to get him. Someone would be happy to trade good value to get into positon to draft one of the top 3.
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- Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 11:28am #955641
  
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  If they fall in love with Stanley Johnson then they would have to trade down to get him. Someone would be happy to trade good value to get into positon to draft one of the top 3.
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Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2014 - 10:13am #955632

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I know it would be a reach at number one, but Stanley Johnson, with his position, skillset, work ethic and character are what the Sixers need to reestablish a strong team culture and identity.
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Posted on: Sat, 11/15/2014 - 3:27pm #955736

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If Okafor lives up to the hype I think the Sixers take him. There are 96 minutes in the front court between PF and C, Noel, Embiid and Okafor could all average 32min/g each while keeping at least two of them on the floor at any time.
Plus given Noel’s quickness and athleticism I think he could guard most SF not named Lebron allowing for all 3 of them to be on floor at the same time for limited minutes
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Posted on: Sat, 11/15/2014 - 3:27pm #955878

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If Okafor lives up to the hype I think the Sixers take him. There are 96 minutes in the front court between PF and C, Noel, Embiid and Okafor could all average 32min/g each while keeping at least two of them on the floor at any time.
Plus given Noel’s quickness and athleticism I think he could guard most SF not named Lebron allowing for all 3 of them to be on floor at the same time for limited minutes
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Posted on: Sat, 11/15/2014 - 4:43pm #955744

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Karl Anthony Towns looks legit…I would absolutely draft K.A.T #1 and experiment with a 3 big rotation of Noel, Embiid and Townes, we don’t know when Saric comes over so I wouldn’t factor him in a decision like this yet…
I’m convinced MCW and Wroten will be fine players, and that we can lure a SG in free agency(Gerald Green for example)
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- Posted on: Sat, 11/15/2014 - 4:57pm #955746
  
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  Don’t forget they also have the Heat’s #1; Hoping Hezonja falls that far.
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- Posted on: Sat, 11/15/2014 - 4:57pm #955888
  
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  Don’t forget they also have the Heat’s #1; Hoping Hezonja falls that far.
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Posted on: Sat, 11/15/2014 - 4:43pm #955886

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Karl Anthony Towns looks legit…I would absolutely draft K.A.T #1 and experiment with a 3 big rotation of Noel, Embiid and Townes, we don’t know when Saric comes over so I wouldn’t factor him in a decision like this yet…
I’m convinced MCW and Wroten will be fine players, and that we can lure a SG in free agency(Gerald Green for example)
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