Three team trade idea: Minny, Cleveland and Philly

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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 10:58am #57652

JJ_PR
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Minnesota gets: MCW and Thad Young
Cleveland gets: Love and Embiid
Philly gets: Wiggins and Waiters
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:04am #942455

Buckets21
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Horrible trade for Minnesota. Bad trade for philly. Amazing trade for Cleveland.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:04am #942323

Buckets21
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Horrible trade for Minnesota. Bad trade for philly. Amazing trade for Cleveland.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:06am #942457

JJ_PR
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Horrible trade for Minnesota? Because getting the former rookie of the year is a bad thing…
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:06am #942325

JJ_PR
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Horrible trade for Minnesota? Because getting the former rookie of the year is a bad thing…
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:14am #942461
  
  Buckets21
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  I’m a Philly fan, but if Minnesota is trading Love to Cleveland and not getting Wiggins then it’s a pretty big fail for them. If anything Embiid should be going to Minnesota in this deal. Having said that I would want absolutly no parts of this deal as a Philly fan. You can’t honestly think Wiggins and Waiters are worth Love and Embiid, right?
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:14am #942329
  
  Buckets21
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  I’m a Philly fan, but if Minnesota is trading Love to Cleveland and not getting Wiggins then it’s a pretty big fail for them. If anything Embiid should be going to Minnesota in this deal. Having said that I would want absolutly no parts of this deal as a Philly fan. You can’t honestly think Wiggins and Waiters are worth Love and Embiid, right?
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:10am #942459

dcase
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Horrible trade for Philly too. They give up MCW, Young and Embiid for Wiggins and Waiters. I would rather have MCW over Waiters and at this point I don’t think Wiggins is worth both Embiid and Young. Cleveland makes out like bandits.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:10am #942327

dcase
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Horrible trade for Philly too. They give up MCW, Young and Embiid for Wiggins and Waiters. I would rather have MCW over Waiters and at this point I don’t think Wiggins is worth both Embiid and Young. Cleveland makes out like bandits.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:35am #942465

JJ_PR
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How about this one:
Cleveland gets: Kevin Love & Joel Embiid.
Minnesota gets: Michael Carter-Williams, Thaddeus Young & ’15 first round pick from Cleveland.
Philadelphia gets: Andrew Wiggins, Zach Lavine, Anthony Bennett & ’15 first round pick from Cleveland.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:35am #942333

JJ_PR
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How about this one:
Cleveland gets: Kevin Love & Joel Embiid.
Minnesota gets: Michael Carter-Williams, Thaddeus Young & ’15 first round pick from Cleveland.
Philadelphia gets: Andrew Wiggins, Zach Lavine, Anthony Bennett & ’15 first round pick from Cleveland.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:00pm #942349
  
  dcase
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  Better from a Philly perspective….but the T-wolves get sh*t on even more. You now have them giving up Love and Levine….to get back MCW, Young and a 2015 first round pick (which is likely to be some where in the 20s). Again cleveland gets the best end of this deal……not surprising based on your logo.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:00pm #942481
  
  dcase
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  Better from a Philly perspective….but the T-wolves get sh*t on even more. You now have them giving up Love and Levine….to get back MCW, Young and a 2015 first round pick (which is likely to be some where in the 20s). Again cleveland gets the best end of this deal……not surprising based on your logo.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:38pm #942357
  
  JJ_PR
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  Philly fans negging this idea like crazy because they’re waiting for Cleveland to trade Wiggins to Minnesota so they can get him without giving up Embiid…
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:38pm #942489
  
  JJ_PR
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  Philly fans negging this idea like crazy because they’re waiting for Cleveland to trade Wiggins to Minnesota so they can get him without giving up Embiid…
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:41am #942337

Roland209
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just stop.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:41am #942469

Roland209
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just stop.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:56am #942345

JCliff24
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The second one is even worse lol. Love, Lavine for MCW, Thad and a pick? Yikes.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:36pm #942355
  
  JJ_PR
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  I disagree. Minnesota and new coach Flip Saunders would rather have proven commodity over upside, thus preferring MCW over Wiggins and Embiid. He wants to compete and knows what he’s getting in MCW. He and Thad Young would give the Wolves a very competitive, experienced core.
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  - Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:46pm #942359
    
    Numbers_Cruncher
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    when the actual trade goes down your head is going to explode
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  - Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:46pm #942492
    
    Numbers_Cruncher
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    when the actual trade goes down your head is going to explode
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 12:36pm #942487
  
  JJ_PR
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  I disagree. Minnesota and new coach Flip Saunders would rather have proven commodity over upside, thus preferring MCW over Wiggins and Embiid. He wants to compete and knows what he’s getting in MCW. He and Thad Young would give the Wolves a very competitive, experienced core.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:56am #942477

JCliff24
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The second one is even worse lol. Love, Lavine for MCW, Thad and a pick? Yikes.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 1:14pm #942371

King Calucha
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So many things are wrong with this. I don’t even think you can pull this off in NBA 2K, so it’s pretty much impossible in real life.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 1:14pm #942504

King Calucha
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So many things are wrong with this. I don’t even think you can pull this off in NBA 2K, so it’s pretty much impossible in real life.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 1:19pm #942373

aztwulf
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This is an awful trade for Minnesota. Not bad………..AWFUL.
Slowly back away from your computer and take a few weeks off.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 1:19pm #942506

aztwulf
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This is an awful trade for Minnesota. Not bad………..AWFUL.
Slowly back away from your computer and take a few weeks off.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 2:00pm #942392

Captain L
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I can’t believe you have honestly tried to defend this trade it is terrrible , except for Cleveland.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 2:00pm #942524

Captain L
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I can’t believe you have honestly tried to defend this trade it is terrrible , except for Cleveland.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 2:34pm #942410

Biggysmalls
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I love how the guy is basically saying the Wolves would do that trade because they get proven commodities. Dude Philly was trying to lose last year and were really good at it. If they wanted Carter Williams and Thad Young, why not just trade Love for them straight up, without getting Cleveland involved? Then Philly could keep Embiid. Essentially Philly trades the #3 pick for the #1 pick and Waiters? That makes no sense either.
Gosh I miss when people at least thought rationally. I’m a wolves fan. Lets trade Rubio and Shabazz Muhammad and Dieng for Kyrie Irving and Embiid. Philly would get Dieng who can protect the rim and looks funny when he runs. Great deal for them. Cleveland gets a guy who tried hard and makes cool passes plus a guy that can score a lot if he shoots even more. Perfect. #sarcasmfont
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 2:34pm #942542

Biggysmalls
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I love how the guy is basically saying the Wolves would do that trade because they get proven commodities. Dude Philly was trying to lose last year and were really good at it. If they wanted Carter Williams and Thad Young, why not just trade Love for them straight up, without getting Cleveland involved? Then Philly could keep Embiid. Essentially Philly trades the #3 pick for the #1 pick and Waiters? That makes no sense either.
Gosh I miss when people at least thought rationally. I’m a wolves fan. Lets trade Rubio and Shabazz Muhammad and Dieng for Kyrie Irving and Embiid. Philly would get Dieng who can protect the rim and looks funny when he runs. Great deal for them. Cleveland gets a guy who tried hard and makes cool passes plus a guy that can score a lot if he shoots even more. Perfect. #sarcasmfont
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 2:44pm #942416

Slam Dunk
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This is from a good source in the Wolve front office as of 1 1/2 – 2 weeks ago. I’d encourage you to wait to criticize it until it is over (though, my luck, they change their minds).
It’s settled. Wiggins, Bennett, and a number 1 for Love. The #1 goes to Philly for Thaddeus Young, who lands in Minny. I know these things are subject to change, but that’s what it was then. I doubt it changes unless something unforeseen happens.
Don’t get mad at me if you don’t like the trade. I’m not saying I’d do it or wouldn’t. I’m only relaying information.
As I’ve said before, it rests with the Cavs notion that they need to get things together sooner than later. If it were me, I might wait, keep the prospects, let LeBron nurture them, and pick up Love on the cheap next year. But, I’m not their front office. Aside from waiting, everyone is getting value from this.
Take if FWIW…

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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 2:44pm #942548

Slam Dunk
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This is from a good source in the Wolve front office as of 1 1/2 – 2 weeks ago. I’d encourage you to wait to criticize it until it is over (though, my luck, they change their minds).
It’s settled. Wiggins, Bennett, and a number 1 for Love. The #1 goes to Philly for Thaddeus Young, who lands in Minny. I know these things are subject to change, but that’s what it was then. I doubt it changes unless something unforeseen happens.
Don’t get mad at me if you don’t like the trade. I’m not saying I’d do it or wouldn’t. I’m only relaying information.
As I’ve said before, it rests with the Cavs notion that they need to get things together sooner than later. If it were me, I might wait, keep the prospects, let LeBron nurture them, and pick up Love on the cheap next year. But, I’m not their front office. Aside from waiting, everyone is getting value from this.
Take if FWIW…

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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 4:20pm #942448

Ebown5
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As a Sixers fan I would rather have Embiid than Wiggins. The ONLY reason to consider Wiggins over Embiid is the injury, but the injury prognosis looks good so it isn’t worth it at all. Embiid’s ceiling is significantly higher than Wiggins’.
There is no reason at all to trade MCW in any scenario.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 4:33pm #942454
  
  MattP31
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  I’m also a Sixers fan but don’t agree with you. I would actually prefer Wiggins based on building a team. MCW, Wiggins, Noel and a top pick in a draft loaded with bigs(Okafor?, Alexander?) plus Saric is a better team than MCW, Embiid, Noel, the top pick in a big man heavy draft, plus Saric
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 4:33pm #942586
  
  MattP31
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  I’m also a Sixers fan but don’t agree with you. I would actually prefer Wiggins based on building a team. MCW, Wiggins, Noel and a top pick in a draft loaded with bigs(Okafor?, Alexander?) plus Saric is a better team than MCW, Embiid, Noel, the top pick in a big man heavy draft, plus Saric
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 4:20pm #942580

Ebown5
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As a Sixers fan I would rather have Embiid than Wiggins. The ONLY reason to consider Wiggins over Embiid is the injury, but the injury prognosis looks good so it isn’t worth it at all. Embiid’s ceiling is significantly higher than Wiggins’.
There is no reason at all to trade MCW in any scenario.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 5:38pm #942601

Papo
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hahahahaha you’re clearly a Cavs/Lebron fan.

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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 5:38pm #942468

Papo
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hahahahaha you’re clearly a Cavs/Lebron fan.

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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 5:44pm #942605

CU.LIONS
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Wait a minute, I haven’t been on this site for too long, but anyone have an idea for what the record is for getting negative votes???
Minus 30 is too funny LOL.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 5:44pm #942472

CU.LIONS
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Wait a minute, I haven’t been on this site for too long, but anyone have an idea for what the record is for getting negative votes???
Minus 30 is too funny LOL.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 9:19pm #942644
  
  OneAndDone
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  http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/gang-ties-may-have-factor-josh-smith-decision-detroit
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 9:19pm #942511
  
  OneAndDone
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  http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/gang-ties-may-have-factor-josh-smith-decision-detroit
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 6:07pm #942613

Slam Dunk
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And, this will be my last post. I had a person I’ve known for years and trust give me information from the Wolves front office. I post it here and got voted down twice. I’ve never completely understood the mentality of message boards. I thought it would be appreciated.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 6:07pm #942480

Slam Dunk
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And, this will be my last post. I had a person I’ve known for years and trust give me information from the Wolves front office. I post it here and got voted down twice. I’ve never completely understood the mentality of message boards. I thought it would be appreciated.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 8:47pm #942638

Biggysmalls
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If you have a source in the front office, that’s awesome. But a lot of people have "inside scoops" from sources who are never right. There are trust issues that’s all. If you are in contact with Wolves people though, tell them they need to try to tank this year for high draft picks…not compete for a 7-11 seed in the West. Sell the fans on a rebuild with Wiggins as the tip of the iceberg and build it up like OKC.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 8:47pm #942505

Biggysmalls
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If you have a source in the front office, that’s awesome. But a lot of people have "inside scoops" from sources who are never right. There are trust issues that’s all. If you are in contact with Wolves people though, tell them they need to try to tank this year for high draft picks…not compete for a 7-11 seed in the West. Sell the fans on a rebuild with Wiggins as the tip of the iceberg and build it up like OKC.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:42pm #942658

Jr. ROXAS
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Philly aint givin up Embiid.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2014 - 11:42pm #942525

Jr. ROXAS
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Philly aint givin up Embiid.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/05/2014 - 2:56am #942681

Dell87
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So I guess minny are really putting their hopes on two rookies . ( Lavine and Wiggins) , and a sometimes erratic point guard. (Rubio). Honestly the best thing for them would be to have an awful record and hope to get a top 3 pick next year. I’ll tell you this though, they can be exciting if they run run run . Cause wiggins Lavine and deing are super athletic
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Posted on: Tue, 08/05/2014 - 2:56am #942547

Dell87
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So I guess minny are really putting their hopes on two rookies . ( Lavine and Wiggins) , and a sometimes erratic point guard. (Rubio). Honestly the best thing for them would be to have an awful record and hope to get a top 3 pick next year. I’ll tell you this though, they can be exciting if they run run run . Cause wiggins Lavine and deing are super athletic
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