I think Minnesota needs to accept this deal while they can

I think Minny doesn’t really want to trade Love just yet if at all. That’s why you keep hearing about these ridiculously one-sided proposals favoring Minny. Seriously, FOUR 1st round picks for Love?

I think Minny doesn’t really want to trade Love just yet if at all. That’s why you keep hearing about these ridiculously one-sided proposals favoring Minny. Seriously, FOUR 1st round picks for Love?

There are a couple of dangerous things for Minny by trying to wait until closer to the trade deadline. First if Golden State is in good playoff position they aren’t going to break their team chemistry mid season to make a major offer for Love, so that would take them out of the race. Same goes for Cleveland and or if Wiggins/Bennett show great promise to start the year they might pull him off the table. Also the longer you wait the more Love might completely take the stance of staying one last year in Minny then bolting. That deters teams who will have cap space next summer from losing assets when they could sign him outright, and for teams looking to trade for him without firm commitment that he’d sign an extenion they’d be leery. So honestly I think Minnesota is playing on a slippery slope and if they want maximum value for Love and not lose him for not, they need to make a move in the next month.

There are a couple of dangerous things for Minny by trying to wait until closer to the trade deadline. First if Golden State is in good playoff position they aren’t going to break their team chemistry mid season to make a major offer for Love, so that would take them out of the race. Same goes for Cleveland and or if Wiggins/Bennett show great promise to start the year they might pull him off the table. Also the longer you wait the more Love might completely take the stance of staying one last year in Minny then bolting. That deters teams who will have cap space next summer from losing assets when they could sign him outright, and for teams looking to trade for him without firm commitment that he’d sign an extenion they’d be leery. So honestly I think Minnesota is playing on a slippery slope and if they want maximum value for Love and not lose him for not, they need to make a move in the next month.

 Minny should get what they can get.. Love isnt staying anyway

 Minny should get what they can get.. Love isnt staying anyway

If the offer really is Wiggins, Bennett and a 1 you take it. As others have posted above this leaves the Wolves with a nice young core with some real potential. No, the pieces may not fit perfectly but they can be re-arranged via trades once they see what they have.

If the offer really is Wiggins, Bennett and a 1 you take it. As others have posted above this leaves the Wolves with a nice young core with some real potential. No, the pieces may not fit perfectly but they can be re-arranged via trades once they see what they have.

I think that if Wiggins and Bennett were actually being offered, they would have already taken it.  It’s more likely that Minnesota leaked it out that Wiggins was on the block so that Golden State would feel obliged to offer Klay Thompson to them.

I think that if Wiggins and Bennett were actually being offered, they would have already taken it.  It’s more likely that Minnesota leaked it out that Wiggins was on the block so that Golden State would feel obliged to offer Klay Thompson to them.

 The other great thing about this trade (as opposed to the gs trade) is Minnesota will be terrible next year, Which only helps them in building a young core.

 The other great thing about this trade (as opposed to the gs trade) is Minnesota will be terrible next year, Which only helps them in building a young core.

I don’t think Cleveland should do it.  If I am them I hope Anthony Bennett is enough of that stretch four kind of guy who can be a third or fourth option.  Then you have Wiggins who should be a great running mate with LeBron.

Then look at getting Kevin Love next summer OR Marc Gasol.  Gasol might be a better fit (and cheaper).  He is a center who can shoot, score, and really PASS.  He can anchor the paint on defense, block shots, and orchestrate the team defense.  He can throw a mean outlet pass and even has 3 point range.  With Marc you can go small with Marc on the high post and LeBron in the low post.  OR, go big with Gasol and Andy V inside and LeBron and Wiggins on the wings for a really nasty defensive, rebounding unit.

… on a Grizzlies thread, it appears that Epke Udoh is available.  Udoh could be a decent last minute pickup for the Cavs as a defender and shot blocker who can play some small ball center.  The Cavs need DEFENSE inside.  Then they should go after one last shooter, like Ray Allen, or a stretch four.

Then if you think about it, Kevin Love doesn’t really matchup well with the Bulls’ bigs of Noah, Pau, and Taj Gibson.  Love can shoot and score but Noah can probably guard him as can Gibson.  Then Love would get killed inside by Pau Gasol.  Love can’t guard Tim Duncan either if the Spurs and Cavs meet in the Finals, and you can’t put Kevin Love at center if the Spurs go small.  Same with the Thunder.  Serge Ibaka can guard Kevin Love, but can Love play center and guard Serge Ibaka?  Then if the Cavs trade Wiggins, wouldn’t you want Wiggins to go after guys like Kevin Durant, Kawhi Leonard, and even Doug McDermott? 

Against the Spurs, the Cavs can throw Andy V at Duncan (or Brendan Haywood) then LeBron or Anthony Bennett at Boris Diaw (their small ball power forward) with Wiggins locking down Kawhi Leonard.  … if the Cavs trade both Wiggins AND Bennett then the Cavs can’t do this.  Then you have to go big with LeBron at the 3 and Love at the 4 with a 7 footer clogging the paint, because Love can’t play center. 

If the Cavs also traded a first rounder next year, they could lose out on a pick that might be able to get them a rim protector like WCS or an intriguing big man like Marcus Lee.  Or, if the Cavs wanted a shooter at the center spot they could go after Frank Kaminsky with either their own pick or the Heat pick.  2015 could end up being a great draft for the Cavs since there are a lot of big men, and then there is a 6’9 guy like Sam Dekker.  Hey, the guy the Cavs might need could be Marshall Plumlee.  If he is like the other Plumlee guys (and I think he is) he is a great athlete who can rebound, dunk, and hustle.  Put him at the 5 and let the Cavs run, rebound, and defend.

I don’t think Cleveland should do it.  If I am them I hope Anthony Bennett is enough of that stretch four kind of guy who can be a third or fourth option.  Then you have Wiggins who should be a great running mate with LeBron.

Then look at getting Kevin Love next summer OR Marc Gasol.  Gasol might be a better fit (and cheaper).  He is a center who can shoot, score, and really PASS.  He can anchor the paint on defense, block shots, and orchestrate the team defense.  He can throw a mean outlet pass and even has 3 point range.  With Marc you can go small with Marc on the high post and LeBron in the low post.  OR, go big with Gasol and Andy V inside and LeBron and Wiggins on the wings for a really nasty defensive, rebounding unit.

… on a Grizzlies thread, it appears that Epke Udoh is available.  Udoh could be a decent last minute pickup for the Cavs as a defender and shot blocker who can play some small ball center.  The Cavs need DEFENSE inside.  Then they should go after one last shooter, like Ray Allen, or a stretch four.

Then if you think about it, Kevin Love doesn’t really matchup well with the Bulls’ bigs of Noah, Pau, and Taj Gibson.  Love can shoot and score but Noah can probably guard him as can Gibson.  Then Love would get killed inside by Pau Gasol.  Love can’t guard Tim Duncan either if the Spurs and Cavs meet in the Finals, and you can’t put Kevin Love at center if the Spurs go small.  Same with the Thunder.  Serge Ibaka can guard Kevin Love, but can Love play center and guard Serge Ibaka?  Then if the Cavs trade Wiggins, wouldn’t you want Wiggins to go after guys like Kevin Durant, Kawhi Leonard, and even Doug McDermott? 

Against the Spurs, the Cavs can throw Andy V at Duncan (or Brendan Haywood) then LeBron or Anthony Bennett at Boris Diaw (their small ball power forward) with Wiggins locking down Kawhi Leonard.  … if the Cavs trade both Wiggins AND Bennett then the Cavs can’t do this.  Then you have to go big with LeBron at the 3 and Love at the 4 with a 7 footer clogging the paint, because Love can’t play center. 

If the Cavs also traded a first rounder next year, they could lose out on a pick that might be able to get them a rim protector like WCS or an intriguing big man like Marcus Lee.  Or, if the Cavs wanted a shooter at the center spot they could go after Frank Kaminsky with either their own pick or the Heat pick.  2015 could end up being a great draft for the Cavs since there are a lot of big men, and then there is a 6’9 guy like Sam Dekker.  Hey, the guy the Cavs might need could be Marshall Plumlee.  If he is like the other Plumlee guys (and I think he is) he is a great athlete who can rebound, dunk, and hustle.  Put him at the 5 and let the Cavs run, rebound, and defend.

 This could be one of those VERY RARE opportunities for the Wolves where you can get equal value when trading away a star player. This is extremely uncommon and the Wolves would be wise to take this deal.

 This could be one of those VERY RARE opportunities for the Wolves where you can get equal value when trading away a star player. This is extremely uncommon and the Wolves would be wise to take this deal.

If I am the Cavs I fill out the roster with Ray Allen for 3 point shooting and veteran leadership at the 2 guard spot, Epke Udoh for athleticism, defense, and rebounding inside, and Aaron Craft as a third point guard who can run a team, defend, and lead. 

That would give the Cavs a really good, defensive unit of Craft, Wiggins, LeBron, Udoh, and Andy V. 

They could also go with a three guard lineup, small ball unit of Irving, Waiters, and Ray Allen with LeBron and Andy V inside. 

With these guys, LeBron is a great alpha dog first option, Kyrie Irving as an ideal second option, with complementary scoring from Waiters, Bennett, Wiggins, Ray Allen, Mike Miller, Varejao, and Tristan Thompson who are all guys who can get you 10 to 15 points a night.  

The 2015 draft should be good for them.  They could get depth at center with either a rim protector like WCS or a 3 point shooter like Frank Kaminsky.  Dakari Johnson is a load.  Marcus Lee could be a great fit.  Maybe they even get a solid, athletic, energy forward like Alex Poythress or Shaq Goodwin in the second round.  They could also package their pick and the Heat pick to move up.

In free agency they could go after Kevin Love or Marc Gasol or another top free agent. 

If I am the Cavs I fill out the roster with Ray Allen for 3 point shooting and veteran leadership at the 2 guard spot, Epke Udoh for athleticism, defense, and rebounding inside, and Aaron Craft as a third point guard who can run a team, defend, and lead. 

That would give the Cavs a really good, defensive unit of Craft, Wiggins, LeBron, Udoh, and Andy V. 

They could also go with a three guard lineup, small ball unit of Irving, Waiters, and Ray Allen with LeBron and Andy V inside. 

With these guys, LeBron is a great alpha dog first option, Kyrie Irving as an ideal second option, with complementary scoring from Waiters, Bennett, Wiggins, Ray Allen, Mike Miller, Varejao, and Tristan Thompson who are all guys who can get you 10 to 15 points a night.  

The 2015 draft should be good for them.  They could get depth at center with either a rim protector like WCS or a 3 point shooter like Frank Kaminsky.  Dakari Johnson is a load.  Marcus Lee could be a great fit.  Maybe they even get a solid, athletic, energy forward like Alex Poythress or Shaq Goodwin in the second round.  They could also package their pick and the Heat pick to move up.

In free agency they could go after Kevin Love or Marc Gasol or another top free agent. 

 I always wonder when we’re shown trades like this how much bs we get. As everyone mentioned already it makes no sense that Minnesota wouldn’t have already accepted this deal so it makes me wonder if the information we’re seeing is true or not. Maybe Cleveland is making some additional requirements we aren’t seeing and that’s why Minnesota is asking for more than Wiggins, Bennett, and a first round pick.

 I always wonder when we’re shown trades like this how much bs we get. As everyone mentioned already it makes no sense that Minnesota wouldn’t have already accepted this deal so it makes me wonder if the information we’re seeing is true or not. Maybe Cleveland is making some additional requirements we aren’t seeing and that’s why Minnesota is asking for more than Wiggins, Bennett, and a first round pick.

 It’s my feeling that the Cavs are demanding Dieng.  And they should be he would fit perfect.  Flip I’m sure is reluctant to give up Dieng and he should be.  At the end of the day I expect this trade to happen.  I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Wolves send another piece in order to get Wiggins, Bennet and a pick.  The delay now I’ll bet is over Dieng.

 It’s my feeling that the Cavs are demanding Dieng.  And they should be he would fit perfect.  Flip I’m sure is reluctant to give up Dieng and he should be.  At the end of the day I expect this trade to happen.  I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Wolves send another piece in order to get Wiggins, Bennet and a pick.  The delay now I’ll bet is over Dieng.

there has to be something Cleveland is asking for in addition to Love or this trade would already be done. Dieng would be my guess.

there has to be something Cleveland is asking for in addition to Love or this trade would already be done. Dieng would be my guess.

If the rumors are true and Flip wants Klay that bad that he’s turning down Wiggins, Bennett and a first round pick then this is Exhibit A why your coach shouldn’t also be yur GM. The smart GM would have already done this trade. You hardly ever get that kind of Value for a star player that is open about leaving when he’s a free agent.

I like Klay but he won’t be a difference maker to the extent that you turn down a trade for a No.1 pick a future first round pick and another young asset. He needs not to concern himself over winning now. This is his chance to right some of the wrongs that David Kahn had left for him and he’s kind of crazy for not taking this opportunity.

If the rumors are true and Flip wants Klay that bad that he’s turning down Wiggins, Bennett and a first round pick then this is Exhibit A why your coach shouldn’t also be yur GM. The smart GM would have already done this trade. You hardly ever get that kind of Value for a star player that is open about leaving when he’s a free agent.

I like Klay but he won’t be a difference maker to the extent that you turn down a trade for a No.1 pick a future first round pick and another young asset. He needs not to concern himself over winning now. This is his chance to right some of the wrongs that David Kahn had left for him and he’s kind of crazy for not taking this opportunity.

Lebron didn’t say anything about Gorgui Dieng guys. You’re kinda making me worry, but not too much. 

Lebron didn’t say anything about Gorgui Dieng guys. You’re kinda making me worry, but not too much. 

is the guy Cleveland also wants then I think a fair deal is Wiggins, Bennett, 2 firsts for Love & Dieng.

is the guy Cleveland also wants then I think a fair deal is Wiggins, Bennett, 2 firsts for Love & Dieng.

 I am a Timberwolves fan.. I am telling you.  The T-Wolves will blow this.  

 I am a Timberwolves fan.. I am telling you.  The T-Wolves will blow this.  

 Don’t forget… Broussard is behind this report. Meaning at least 50% of it isn’t true.

 Don’t forget… Broussard is behind this report. Meaning at least 50% of it isn’t true.

 T Wolves haven’t accepted this because the Cavs haven’t offered this.  No way Wolves would turn that down.

 T Wolves haven’t accepted this because the Cavs haven’t offered this.  No way Wolves would turn that down.

They’re not interested in building for the future, that’s why they prefer Klay Thompson over Wiggins…  

They’re not interested in building for the future, that’s why they prefer Klay Thompson over Wiggins…  

Well here’s the kicker for the Wolves: The Wolves know that Love will leave. Of course they don’t want to lose him for nothing come 2015, but they may just end up settling for that in the end and here’s why. The Wolves want to make the playoffs this coming season. (They wanted to make the playoffs, but we all know that didn’t happen so they are already a year behind) So in order for the Wolves to accept any Love deal, the players they get back have to be able to get them to the playoffs this coming season, not in 2-3 years down the road. Right now, the only offer that would get the Wolves to the playoffs this coming season (or at least give them a fighting chance) is the Warriors offer of Lee, Thompson, and Barnes. So I think that offer is ahead of the Cavs offer of Wiggins, Bennett, and Waiters. And the Celtics, I haven’t even heard of an offer from them yet. I would suppose that it would include Sullinger and/or Olynyk, and Green but I don’t think that’s very high on the Wolves’ mind right now, and I really do think the Celtics have pulled out of the Love race for now. So the order of the offers I think for Love for the Wolves are: Warriors, Cavs, and last the Celtics.

But like other people here have mentioned, I think the Wolves will have to decline all trade offers and keep Love this year, and then let him go for nothing come 2015 offseason. The Warriors have the best deal, but they are not all too keen on keeping Thompson on the table. They may have already pulled him off. They can still make the playoffs without Love and they can still get pretty far. True Love, would get them further, but if they do well again this year and are in the playoff race again (which is what I expect) then why break up the chemistry you have built?

Now if it were me, I’d pick up the phone and accept the Cavs offer right this very minute. I don’t the Cavs will take Wiggins off the table until maybe November or December, so strike the iron while its hot. But that deal won’t get them to the playoffs until probably 2015 or 2016, so I’d make the deal, but I don’t think the Wolves will actually do so. (I’m not the Wolves)

Well here’s the kicker for the Wolves: The Wolves know that Love will leave. Of course they don’t want to lose him for nothing come 2015, but they may just end up settling for that in the end and here’s why. The Wolves want to make the playoffs this coming season. (They wanted to make the playoffs, but we all know that didn’t happen so they are already a year behind) So in order for the Wolves to accept any Love deal, the players they get back have to be able to get them to the playoffs this coming season, not in 2-3 years down the road. Right now, the only offer that would get the Wolves to the playoffs this coming season (or at least give them a fighting chance) is the Warriors offer of Lee, Thompson, and Barnes. So I think that offer is ahead of the Cavs offer of Wiggins, Bennett, and Waiters. And the Celtics, I haven’t even heard of an offer from them yet. I would suppose that it would include Sullinger and/or Olynyk, and Green but I don’t think that’s very high on the Wolves’ mind right now, and I really do think the Celtics have pulled out of the Love race for now. So the order of the offers I think for Love for the Wolves are: Warriors, Cavs, and last the Celtics.

But like other people here have mentioned, I think the Wolves will have to decline all trade offers and keep Love this year, and then let him go for nothing come 2015 offseason. The Warriors have the best deal, but they are not all too keen on keeping Thompson on the table. They may have already pulled him off. They can still make the playoffs without Love and they can still get pretty far. True Love, would get them further, but if they do well again this year and are in the playoff race again (which is what I expect) then why break up the chemistry you have built?

Now if it were me, I’d pick up the phone and accept the Cavs offer right this very minute. I don’t the Cavs will take Wiggins off the table until maybe November or December, so strike the iron while its hot. But that deal won’t get them to the playoffs until probably 2015 or 2016, so I’d make the deal, but I don’t think the Wolves will actually do so. (I’m not the Wolves)

 I do think that the Cavs shouldn’t trade for Love.

Bennett and Wiggins showed that they can play.

They have Thompson,Bennett and James who could play the PF, Wiggins could turn into the third star on the team.

Love might leave after one season and what do the Cavs have left then.

Love looks to be heading home to either the Warriors or the Lakers next season.

 I do think that the Cavs shouldn’t trade for Love.

Bennett and Wiggins showed that they can play.

They have Thompson,Bennett and James who could play the PF, Wiggins could turn into the third star on the team.

Love might leave after one season and what do the Cavs have left then.

Love looks to be heading home to either the Warriors or the Lakers next season.