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  • #40782
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    The Greek national basketball team II, something like the same thing as Team USA’s select team, played against the Australian national team the other day.

    Although Australia was without David Andersen, and Greece’s 2 team was without two of it normal starters (Charis Giannopoulos and Vassilis Kavvadas).

     

    Anyway, we got to see Nikos Pappas playing against high level competition as Australia’s 2012 Olympics team.

    For thsoe that argue that Pappas is not on any mock drafts and is not on NBA radar and will not be drafted because "he has not played against any good competition", well here you go.

    This is very serious competition, at the senior level. Pappas scored 17 points in the game.

     

    Here is the box score:

    http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/13/05/69/01/47FYRXlCSzPU/

     

    Pappas and Greece II will play 2 more games against Australia.

    BTW, the San Antonio Spurs’ personnel that were there, were said to be very impressed with Pappas.

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  • #686998
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    WizardofOz
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    Ugh…this guy’s at it again.

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  • #687007
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    Makaros
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     Dude seriously:

    on the vote for the Greek League’s best young player he only got two votes, less than pretty much every young Greek prospect. 

    Papanikolaou, who has legit chances of being actually drafted, totally dominted the poll. What makes you think that you see something that EVERYONE else misses?

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  • #687012
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    He only played in 11 games during the season. That is why he only got 2 votes. If he sucks so much, then how the hell did he score 17 points against one of the best national teams on the planet?

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  • #687015
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    Makaros
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    Okay, since you’re asking for it.

    Australia is not one of the best teams in basketball. Far from it. And that’s when all of their players are healthy and participating. Which is not the case this time.

    Pappas played 29 minutes and took 14 shots to get to 17 points. He had 43% overall in FGs and just 29% in 3s, which shows that he still has problems finding his range. He had 4 rebounds (which is good for a guard) but also managed 5 TOs and only 2 assists.

    He wasn’t even the best player of the team, see what Bogris did in less minutes (i know he is a center, so the shot % will naturally be higher but still).

    Such stats against sub-par competition aren’t mind-boggling and certainly will not affect his status. He must stay another year in PAOK, work his ass off, finish up third and do well in the Euroleague for him to be considered.

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  • #687043
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    Neville15
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     I watched this game last night and by no means did Pappas stand out. This game was a straight blowout and he did the majority of his damage points wise in garbage time when Brett Brown (Boomers coach) was mixing up the lineups. I was somewhat disappointed with the team that the Greeks sent, they have the Pre-Oylmpic Qualification tournament next week and they didn’t send a single player from that team. Australia aren’t exactly slouches and are a team headed for the Olympics who would have provided some competition. 

    I guess my main point here is that the stats only tell so much. Pappas played well in garbage time once the game had well and truly be decided. There are two more games remaining in the series so we’ll see if the Greeks and Pappas pick it up a bit

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  • #687199
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    Okay, since you’re asking for it.

    Australia is not one of the best teams in basketball. Far from it. And that’s when all of their players are healthy and participating. Which is not the case this time.

    Pappas played 29 minutes and took 14 shots to get to 17 points. He had 43% overall in FGs and just 29% in 3s, which shows that he still has problems finding his range. He had 4 rebounds (which is good for a guard) but also managed 5 TOs and only 2 assists.

    He wasn’t even the best player of the team, see what Bogris did in less minutes (i know he is a center, so the shot % will naturally be higher but still).

    Such stats against sub-par competition aren’t mind-boggling and certainly will not affect his status. He must stay another year in PAOK, work his ass off, finish up third and do well in the Euroleague for him to be considered.

     

    You are a complete moron.

     

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  • #687251
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    Makaros
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     Care to base that statement on something or it just hurts that I’m right and you’re wrong?

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  • #687255
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    European Baller
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    Piss of Makaros

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  • #687263
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    Neville15
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     I think its safe to say Nikos Pappas didn’t play quite as well tonight in a pretty huge blowout. Wish that Greece would have sent a stronger team to play the Aussies. This series seems almost pointless, not to mention it has somewhat tarnished the reputation of Greek basketball in Australia. Many of the casual fans watching this series don’t realise that this Greek team doesn’t have a single player who would normally represent their national team and thus their perception of Greek basketball should be somewhat weakened. Australia also shouldn’t take much from this series other than that it gave them a good opportunity to play together before the Olympics even if it was against rather mediocre opposition.

    I also take issue with you stating that the Spurs coaching staff were impressed with Pappas. The only member of the staff that was present was Brett Brown who coaches Australia. It appeared as if you were making it out as if they had scouts attending

    Box score from the second game in the series:

    http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/13/05/69/02/92baYWSoOPS/

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  • #687291
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    Makaros
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    Your debating skills are the worse I have ever seen

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  • #687302
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    benny15
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    you say he dint play quite well but EB will probably state as "Papas lead his team in scoring for a second game  in a row against an Olympic squad."

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  • #687763
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    NBA only fans are truly pathetic.

     

    To Neville, Greece was just sending over a team with some young players that could get some training outside of their clubs. They don’t get any other training because they don’t play with the national team and they don’t play in youth tournaments.

    Surely Australia knew that they were scheduling just a training practice Greek team that is basically used for the coaches and federation of Greece to get to know the players a bit better?

    I was under the understanding that Australia scheduled them just so they could keep their game sharp and try out more things and get more in shape. I don’t think they scheduled them for competition. I think it was just because Australia has a very hard time to get any teams to travel so far to play them.

    If Australia intended for more competition, then Greece would have sent a lot of different players. Giannopoulos is injured and Kavvadas has to help the main team in practice because they have some injuries.

    But besides them many of the B selection players were not called. Like Pat Calathes, Dan Mavraides, Steve Panos, Vlantimir Giankovits, etc. So I mean, it’s not like Greece was intending to send Australia a team with competition in mind.

    I think surely that this must have been made known to Australia before Greece selected the team. Otherwise it seems like Greece made some odd choices in how they selected the tarining team. I mean Athinou, Tsakaleris, Giannakidis? I have no clue why they would be in the team, if Greece ever had intentions of making a good competition for Australia to prepare.

    If Australia paid for Greece to send a team that would be competitive, then Greece did not even try. Sure, they intended to have Giannopoulos and Kavvadas play, and that would have made the team better, but still. We are talking about a team made up mostly of second or third rate Greek League players, most of which are very young and inexpierenced.

    There are some very talented young players there, but clearly that team was not put together with the thought of giving Australia anything more than practice sessions. Just think as an example, you have a guy like Bogris that has talent and potential, but that sat on the bench and didn’t play for 2 years. Or a guy like Katsivelis that also has talent and good potential, but was the 16th man of Olympiacos roster and so forth.

    So maybe Australi or Greece misunderstood each other on what they wanted out of the 3 game deal?

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