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  • #36781
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    toronto_legends
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    I feel that the raptor should trade Jose claderon this coming trade deadline. He is playing very well and getting alot of attention around the league.. i think that BC should trade Claderon for some draft pick and hopefully they can use there draft pick (Tor) to get harrison barnes/J.lamb/ MKG and use  the next draft pick (Other) they get to draft  Kendall Marshell/Teagues/ Kabongo.. it would be a smart move seeing how Toronto is trying to build a  young athletic team.

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  • #640717
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    dacula18
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     I would, but I’m no GM. He is at the point where a veteran team could use him, but he is too old to play through a rebuilding process. I don’t think you’d get a first rounder for him though. He is pretty old and not THAT good. 

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  • #640720
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    kngojc
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     What about to the Lakers? We all know what they need and giving up a first rounder for them wouldn’t be so bad. They could throw in someone like Luke Walton if he’s still actually on the team or just getting paid to wear a suit and watch from the front row.

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  • #640721
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    they aren’t going to get a lottery pick or starting caliber player back…the most they’d get is a rotation player or Trade Exemption(which could be good too)…my biggest question is who play’s Pg in Toronto if they deal Calderon to the Lakers(for example)…I always liked Bayless, but not as a starting Pg, I’d love him as a combo guard instant offense type off the bench, think Lou Williams or Jason Terry, maybe even a Monta lite…I don’t like the Idea of Barbosa starting at Pg, that spells garbage production for The Raps…I think they missed out the perfect fit last year when they picked Jonas over Brandon Knight, unless the Raps can turn Calderon and Barbosa’s expiring contract into a player like Jennings in 2 years it’s going to look really bad, and lets not get into the Bust potential Jonas will come into the NBA with, Both Teams Played Hard can tell you about the Great Jonas Valencunas…

    I’d trade Calderon to the Lakers for the Dallas Trade Exemption from the Lamar Odom trade, the cap could be of use in the Future(Jennings and Derozen duo)

    And I would also begin the Barbosa to Bayless transition, and find a way to get The Blur off the Books in a Flash…

    The real cap killers are Aamir Johnson and Leinas Kleiza, Bargnani is paid fine for the scoring he brings…

    If one of the Cap Killers can be moved with Jose or LB then that would be great…The Raps will be without a Pg as this years crop is thin, they could wait until Brandon Jennings is available or make a trade for a Pg(which I don’t see out there)…either way they need to get a Stud Sg or Sf this year(Barnes, Lamb, MKG, Rivers, Beal or Jones III) and they need Jonas to be every bit of the player they envisioned when they drafted him…Ed Davis and Jerryd Bayless could stand to grow as players…Bargnani is a solid scoring Pf and Derozen can be a solid slashing Sg or Sf depending on who the Raps draft, the rest of the roster could be tinkered with…Bayless looks like a solid scorer off the bench, Davis is a good 3rd Big type, Jonas has to be a factor inside for this team to go anywhere, and they would still of course need a Pg(unless they hold onto Calderon LOL)

    On paper I love this teams potential

    Bayless and Derozen on the perimeter, The future 1st rounder at Sg/Sf next to them(Barnes/Lamb or MKG)

    The Trio of Bargnani,Davis and Valencunas at the Pf/C spots with Aamir Johnson to boot…

    they are a few moves from being enjoyably relevant, instead of painfully relevant…Dump Calderon to the Lakers, let the Blur go somehow, then pray Kleiza goes back overseas and saves you extra Cap space …alot of peotential there, I might start a Franchise on 2K12 with them, lol…No Jonas though, so IDK…

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  • #640723
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    toronto_legends
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    @kngojc yah i feel that a trade to Laker would be a good  fit for both side seeing  how laker  have two fisrt round picks they can trade one of them  and seeing how Pau gasol is still shaking up that laker tryed to trade him for chris  paul and his name in numerous trade rumors  this trade can bring Pau Gasol back to All star form before the playoff starts                  

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  • #640726
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    NCarmean18
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     If I were the GM of the L.A. Lakers, I would definitely seek a deal bringing Calderon in from Toronto.  He is a veteran point guard who is having one excellent season.  The Raptors sure aren’t doing anything this season, so I don’t see why they’d be opposed to trading this aging veteran.  

    If the Lakers added Calderon, he’d be an instant upgrade of Derek Fisher.  He is a pretty decent scorer for a pass-first point guard, passes with great efficiency, and rebounds quite well for a point guard.  He also plays nice defense, coming up with a couple of steals a game.  

    Calderon is a very underrated player and I think he can create offense for others very well, which would only help his cause with Pau and Bynum, feeding them the rock down low, racking up assists for himself and points for the Lakers team and big men in general.  I feel the Lakers are a good point guard away from contending and Calderon can be that point guard.

    Sure, some could argue that they need more scoring from the 3 but if you play good enough defense then that is not a necessity like the point guard position is because Derek Fisher… He just can’t do it anymore.  He can come in and throw a few passes down low and hit a 3 in 10 minutes, sure.  But he can not play starting minutes anymore, it is just hurting the Lakers cause.

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  • #640732
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    nick5354
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    This is just ridiculous, Calderon is worth so much more than a first rounder.

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  • #640733
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    BrentSuriaga01
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    Calderon would improve the lakers chemistry wise with pau gasol. Just let pau know that he will not be dealt to other teams and this Laker team will definitely be back on track. However, who would the lakers give up? maybe some draft picks and the ridiculous contract of luke "scrub" walton. they could also throw in morris cause goudelock is much better.

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  • #640775
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    omphalos
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    If Toronto can get a first rounder in this draft and some depth at SG I’d make a deal. Their first pick can go towards Barnes/MKG to fill the void at SF or take a SG and move Demar to the 3. Their second would be a great chance to get a young replacement for Calderon, because a guy like Kabongo would slip out of the lottery if he declared and has great potential as a pure PG for T-Dot.

    Toronto could then build around a core of Kabongo/Bayless (playmaking and scoring), DeRozan, Barnes/MKG, Bargs/Davis and Valanciunas. That team would have a bright future, instead of making an improvement in the short-term then struggling as Calderon gets older. Better to trade him now and embrace the rebuild fully.

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  • #640776
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    torontoraptors10
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    Thats a real good idea! I think the Raptors are going to be looking to mid to late first round pick in the draft. Kabongo on the Raptors would be amazing, but I am bias because I am Canadian.

    @scarecrow

    I don’t think the Raptors should trade Amir Johnson. He brings intensity every game and IMO, he is improving every year since he got that contract. He gained weight and he is playing more defensively sound, takes good quality shots and understands his role. Not to mention, the fans love him here and he doesn’t play out of his position. He understands what he has to do to my make the team successful (rebounding, defense, close range baskets.

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  • #640808
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    he’s got a big contract for the role he plays IMO, if they could get the Lakers to take him too they’d create a lot more cap space…Kleiza and James Johnson can play some minutes at PF…

    I like the idea of adding a Wing, but if Barnes and MKG are gone, do you really think they’d take Lamb in the top 5…I’m starting to think they’d trade back or reach on Austin Rivers…Another dark horse pick for them is Terrence Jones…If The top 2 Sf’s are gone by the time The Raps draft I can see them trade back to get Terrence Jones while maybe adding a another piece in the process…

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  • #640809
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    jmarg25
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    I would like to see what Calderon could do with a better offensive team around him. He will do very well with the lakers, and he shoots much better than derek fisher

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  • #640826
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    elliotmcadoo
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    Because there goin nowhere fast esp with their 7 foot 250 center that averages barely 6 rebounds a game they should trade Jose see if Ed David and Amir Johnson are the future at the 4 or not draft Michael Kidd Gilchrest while also gettin a young athletic pass first point guard VIA Kabango a kid from Canada with a 1st round pick that you get with a trade for Jose

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  • #641091
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    omphalos
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    Another trade I thought of today would be to the Mavs for Roddy Beaubois and the Mavs first-round pick. Mavs get another steady pass-first PG to spell Kidd, whereas Toronto gets a very talented young combo guard who has shown the potential to be a full-time PG if given the minutes to get comfortable. Of course, and a late first-rounder.

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  • #641133
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    If Toronto is going to have a squad of shoot first shoot second guys (Bargnani, DeRozan, Kleiza) and big men entirely reliant on others to set them up (Johnson, Davis, Valanciunas, and Alabi), they better not have Jerryd Bayless or Marques Teague at the point. Jose Calderon isn’t great, but he knows how to do the job. They can stunt growth of their players by giving them inadequate point play.

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