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- Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 2:57am #28887

DanEboyParticipantKeith Bogans
When Bogans scores a measly 6 points or more….
Bulls are 31-2, 5-0 in playoffs.
Less than 6 points….
Bulls are 39-21, 3-3 in playoffs.
If he gets 9 points…..Bulls are unbeatable…12-0.
Amazing stat.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 4:10am #531201

Wavy BagelsParticipantNow imagine if instead of Bogans, a reliable, consistant 2-guard that plays on both ends in his place. (Afflalo perhaps?) This would most definatley put the Bulls on top without a doubt.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 4:55am #531206
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantHe would be a perfect fit for them in my eyes…who knows maybe they trade Asik and their 2 draft picks for OJ Mayo(doubt it after these playoffs)
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 5:08am #531208

Wavy BagelsParticipantI would keep a tight grip on not only Asik, but Taj Gibson as well. Both Joakim Noah and Carlos Boozer are not reliable to play an entire season, and Taj and Asik are great defenders.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 7:11am #531233
Jlv2011keith bogans performance will decide the series.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 7:22am #531235

IndianaBasketballParticipantHe would be a perfect fit for them in my eyes…who knows maybe they trade Asik and their 2 draft picks for OJ Mayo(doubt it after these playoffs)
Yep! Trade a 7 foot 260 pound young 24 year old center who plays hard, hustles, rebounds and tries to dunk everything around the rim for a dime of dozen undersized shooting guard. That’s the thinking that wins championships lol.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 12:00pm #531336

BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant“Yep! Trade a 7 foot 260 pound young 24 year old center who plays hard, hustles, rebounds and tries to dunk everything around the rim for a dime of dozen undersized shooting guard. That’s the thinking that wins championships lol.”
Chicago’s Mozgov! You can’t trade someone who can’t catch a pass, has zero range, is a walking defensive three second violation, and is only good defensively when he isn’t fouling people!
Asik is a big body, nothing more. If a team can’t find a big body that is just as capable as Omer Asik, they need to clean house.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 12:14pm #531342

BKKnicksfanParticipantIf Chicago can swap a 1st rounder and Asik for Mayo, I’d do it.
But, I think the bigger X-Factor is: which role player is gonna step up for Miami every night.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 12:17pm #531343

OhCanada-ParticipantBTPH I dont think you have been watching Asik play n this series at all.This guy is a smart physical player with good mobility and court awareness. He plays the system well and does his jon. Even if h just is another Zaza Pachulia, Jeff Foster, etc. type utility Center ask around and youll realize teams are happy to have those players, while other teams desperatly need that type of guy to fill the paint on their team. Not only that but he is just 24, and he is 7’1. Give him his credit with the solid play he has given Chicago defensively, he is definitely no liability.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 12:25pm #531350

BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantI have seen him plenty, and I can spot a limited player who is overpraised for playing with a superstar. He is a second unit center whose value is being big. That is fine. Fesenko had a couple nice playoff games for Utah last year. They are easily replaced.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 12:31pm #531354

DanEboyParticipantBTPH….weren’t you all in favor of the Bulls trading Deng, Noah and Taj for Melo?
Best move Pax did was not pulling the trigger on that alleged trade.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 12:43pm #531359

BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantStill am, what is your point? The Bulls are good because Derrick Rose is the MVP and one of the five best talents in the game. He has a team around him that would be in the lottery if he wasn’t there, and my point is that people shouldn’t fall in love with those guys simply because they share the same uniform as Derrick Rose.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 12:53pm #531364

DanEboyParticipantMy point is that all 3 of those guys are playing huge roles for the Bulls and the Bulls aren’t good simply because of Rose.
Deng is playing great defense and solid offense all season, especially of late.
Taj is a very good defender who is fundamentally sound on offense.
Noah is the energy to that team….I know how much you oppose the idea of a player bringing energy to a team.
This is a team, Rose is the undisputed leader of it but their chemistry together is unmatched as a unit right now.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 12:54pm #531366

DanEboyParticipantAnd Tezo is right, you don’t trade a 7′ defensive big man who is still just learning the NBA game for an average 2 guard.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 12:54pm #531367

BKKnicksfanParticipantIf we removed Derrick Rose and replaced him with a average point gaurd, like Mike Conley? Chicago wouldn’t win 35 games.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 1:10pm #531374

BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant“My point is that all 3 of those guys are playing huge roles for the Bulls and the Bulls aren’t good simply because of Rose.
Deng is playing great defense and solid offense all season, especially of late.
Taj is a very good defender who is fundamentally sound on offense.
Noah is the energy to that team….I know how much you oppose the idea of a player bringing energy to a team.
This is a team, Rose is the undisputed leader of it but their chemistry together is unmatched as a unit right now.”
And I’m sure Heat fans are thrilled with their team’s chemistry right now with Joel Anthony, Juwan Howard, James Jones, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, and Mike Bibby surrounding LeBron and Wade. Maybe even Bosh. Maybe.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 1:17pm #531377

DanEboyParticipantYeah, except this team has been building it for 2 years now. I can’t wait for this series to start.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 1:24pm #531380

BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantWell, the Bulls have ten players who weren’t on their roster last year, and of the five who were one is Jannero Pargo. The Heat have five returnees too, actually six, so by that logic they have been building for two years as well.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 1:27pm #531381

DanEboyParticipantI am talking about Rose/Deng/Noah and Taj…keep up.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 1:30pm #531382

Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantBogans vs Miami
3.7 PPG
(3-0)
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 1:32pm #531384

IndianaBasketballParticipant"Chicago’s Mozgov! You can’t trade someone who can’t catch a pass, has zero range, is a walking defensive three second violation, and is only good defensively when he isn’t fouling people!
Asik is a big body, nothing more. If a team can’t find a big body that is just as capable as Omer Asik, they need to clean house."
During the Noah for Melo trade talks, you were quick to say Asik could step in the starting lineup and fill Noah’s shoes. Now you think he’s just a big body?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/13/2011 - 1:47pm #531389

BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant"During the Noah for Melo trade talks, you were quick to say Asik could step in the starting lineup and fill Noah’s shoes. Now you think he’s just a big body?"
If by Asik you mean Kurt Thomas, yes. The Bulls were fine when Noah was down and they were starting Boozer and Thomas just as they were solid last year when they had Brad Miller in the game as opposed to Noah. Thomas is 38 so he isn’t a long-term answer, but if they had gotten Melo it would have been easy to find capable role players going forward. Bit players, role players, energy guys can always be found.
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