Amare seems to be missing Nash a lil/David lee looked better as a knick

I knew this was coming… no Knick fan will agree with you that Lee was better for the Knicks.

I knew this was coming… no Knick fan will agree with you that Lee was better for the Knicks.

I agree with you for the most part Stanford. Amare has played decent thus far, but he is WAY too turnover prone and is playing below average defense. I think he will cut down on the turnovers, though. He looks like he’s trying to do too much. His rebounding has also been average, but I expect that to increase as well.

I agree with you for the most part Stanford. Amare has played decent thus far, but he is WAY too turnover prone and is playing below average defense. I think he will cut down on the turnovers, though. He looks like he’s trying to do too much. His rebounding has also been average, but I expect that to increase as well.

I think Amare will definetly struggle a bit, Hes being used too much as an iso player get him the ball off screens, and pick & rolls, hes just not an iso player once Dantoni adjusts hell do better.

I think Amare will definetly struggle a bit, Hes being used too much as an iso player get him the ball off screens, and pick & rolls, hes just not an iso player once Dantoni adjusts hell do better.

 Amare is the vocal presence for the Knicks he is the unquestionable leader of that locker room.

He has added an "it:" factor to the whole organization and is the veteran leader that team has needed since Allen Houston.

With that said on the basketball court Lee is the more efficient player.

But he can’t impact a game like Amare can impact a game.  Defenses are designed to stop Amare from going off and they have been doing this against Amare for over 5 years now even when he played with Nash.

Amare Stoudemire one on one if the post is still one of the scariest scenarios defenders can imagine.

 Amare is the vocal presence for the Knicks he is the unquestionable leader of that locker room.

He has added an "it:" factor to the whole organization and is the veteran leader that team has needed since Allen Houston.

With that said on the basketball court Lee is the more efficient player.

But he can’t impact a game like Amare can impact a game.  Defenses are designed to stop Amare from going off and they have been doing this against Amare for over 5 years now even when he played with Nash.

Amare Stoudemire one on one if the post is still one of the scariest scenarios defenders can imagine.

Hasn’t been too scary this year so far. Teams rather face this Amare that tries to creat his own offense and is less efficiant than the one that has someone making it easier for him and setting him up which is a Amare that is wayy harder to stop

Hasn’t been too scary this year so far. Teams rather face this Amare that tries to creat his own offense and is less efficiant than the one that has someone making it easier for him and setting him up which is a Amare that is wayy harder to stop

ive seen 2 knick games this yr on tv and correct me if im wrong but man sometimes it looks like amare thinks he is a guard out there, he’ll over dribble and he has a terrible habit of forcing shots

ive seen 2 knick games this yr on tv and correct me if im wrong but man sometimes it looks like amare thinks he is a guard out there, he’ll over dribble and he has a terrible habit of forcing shots

Lee was with pretty much the same group and system for a while.  Amare is still getting used to his new teammates.  Also Knicks are winning and the 2 game they lost were to really good teams and they were both close games.

Lee was with pretty much the same group and system for a while.  Amare is still getting used to his new teammates.  Also Knicks are winning and the 2 game they lost were to really good teams and they were both close games.

I think at the half way mark is when you can actually see where players are at because by that time there should be some good chemistry.  It took Gallo 4 games to remember how to shoot.

I think at the half way mark is when you can actually see where players are at because by that time there should be some good chemistry.  It took Gallo 4 games to remember how to shoot.

Amare’s presence has open up a lot for shooters. Teams go to zone defense which favor shooters to stop Amare.  They did not do this for Lee.  Lee is solid but Amare is a different type of player so comparing them by numbers makes little sense when Amare impacts a game different than Lee.

Amare’s presence has open up a lot for shooters. Teams go to zone defense which favor shooters to stop Amare.  They did not do this for Lee.  Lee is solid but Amare is a different type of player so comparing them by numbers makes little sense when Amare impacts a game different than Lee.

 Yeah Amare is forcing a lot of shots and has a lot of pressure on his shoulders.  He is adjusting for the first time in his career to being the man and not playing with a PG that makes the game easier.  

Ray Felton is about as average an NBA players as I ever saw.  This was his last chance to show he really is a special player and can you spell; E-P-I-C-F-A-I-L.

but @StanfordHoops Amare tore it up in the preseason and yes i having trouble finding his rhythm in the first 5 games.  But he is still averaging 19 points, 3 assists, and 2 blocks.  This is about as bad as you are ever going to see Amare play and once Gallo starts hitting some outside shots, and Dougles gets more time with Amare because he’s better then Ray Felton IMO the floor is going to open up more for Amare to operate.  

But do you not get confused you can count on one hand how many other players in the league a player would be more scared to guard in the post. Cuz not only will Amare score he will punish you under the rim and dunk hard on you like a young Shaq. 

And I hate the Knicks they are not a good team and their fans overrate them but I’m #justsaying.

 Yeah Amare is forcing a lot of shots and has a lot of pressure on his shoulders.  He is adjusting for the first time in his career to being the man and not playing with a PG that makes the game easier.  

Ray Felton is about as average an NBA players as I ever saw.  This was his last chance to show he really is a special player and can you spell; E-P-I-C-F-A-I-L.

but @StanfordHoops Amare tore it up in the preseason and yes i having trouble finding his rhythm in the first 5 games.  But he is still averaging 19 points, 3 assists, and 2 blocks.  This is about as bad as you are ever going to see Amare play and once Gallo starts hitting some outside shots, and Dougles gets more time with Amare because he’s better then Ray Felton IMO the floor is going to open up more for Amare to operate.  

But do you not get confused you can count on one hand how many other players in the league a player would be more scared to guard in the post. Cuz not only will Amare score he will punish you under the rim and dunk hard on you like a young Shaq. 

And I hate the Knicks they are not a good team and their fans overrate them but I’m #justsaying.

Stats are not the end of the story, look at the wins they are getting, look how much better of a defender Stat is. This team is much better with Stoudemire, he also creates much better rythm do to all the attention defenses place on him. Dont be stupid.

Stats are not the end of the story, look at the wins they are getting, look how much better of a defender Stat is. This team is much better with Stoudemire, he also creates much better rythm do to all the attention defenses place on him. Dont be stupid.

i have watched quite a few games.  I am not really a Knicks fans but I have been keeping up with them because both my actually teams are undefeated.  Lakers not a surprise and New Orleans big surprise.  Amare is trying to figure out  when and where he can score with his team mate and also passing to open team mates for 3’s.  Felton is not that bad.  He is an upgrade over Duhon and is a better player maker than Douglas is right now.  I do think that douglas will eventually overtake him when Felton’s contract is up.  Felton is just buying the Knicks time while Douglas develops playmaking skills.  Teams design defenses to stop Amare.  They saw what he did in preaseason and in the 4th against Boston.  Now that Knicks are taking and making outside shots, it should open up things for Amare.

i have watched quite a few games.  I am not really a Knicks fans but I have been keeping up with them because both my actually teams are undefeated.  Lakers not a surprise and New Orleans big surprise.  Amare is trying to figure out  when and where he can score with his team mate and also passing to open team mates for 3’s.  Felton is not that bad.  He is an upgrade over Duhon and is a better player maker than Douglas is right now.  I do think that douglas will eventually overtake him when Felton’s contract is up.  Felton is just buying the Knicks time while Douglas develops playmaking skills.  Teams design defenses to stop Amare.  They saw what he did in preaseason and in the 4th against Boston.  Now that Knicks are taking and making outside shots, it should open up things for Amare.

His stats are still nothing to sneeze at I agree

@ohcanada. What are u talking about. Have u watches a knicks game? Amare is still a bad defender. They even talked about it on NBA tv this weekend and on the espn podcast talk

He can be more efficiant if he stops tryna be a sf and let Felton set him up. I can understand learning a new system to a degree but a new system has nothing to do with being a bad rebounder/defender/turnovers. Is it that hard to just accept when a knick isn’t doing well instead of giving excuses knicks fans??

His stats are still nothing to sneeze at I agree

@ohcanada. What are u talking about. Have u watches a knicks game? Amare is still a bad defender. They even talked about it on NBA tv this weekend and on the espn podcast talk

He can be more efficiant if he stops tryna be a sf and let Felton set him up. I can understand learning a new system to a degree but a new system has nothing to do with being a bad rebounder/defender/turnovers. Is it that hard to just accept when a knick isn’t doing well instead of giving excuses knicks fans??

WTF you talkin bout 19134??? lmao how is felton an epic fail?? hes averaging 16 a game and has been the best point guard knicks have had for years…..if he is your definition of a failure then 3/4 of the league must be bums in your book

WTF you talkin bout 19134??? lmao how is felton an epic fail?? hes averaging 16 a game and has been the best point guard knicks have had for years…..if he is your definition of a failure then 3/4 of the league must be bums in your book

@sheltwon why you keep saying you aren’t a knicks fan?  You defend them every chance you get and almost always have nothing but positive things to say about them. You debate more for them then any other team and more than any other knick fan (except bkballer) and you always cosign a knick fan when they pump up a knick player

That’s like saying you don’t like a girl but always defending her and saying how pretty she is

@sheltwon why you keep saying you aren’t a knicks fan?  You defend them every chance you get and almost always have nothing but positive things to say about them. You debate more for them then any other team and more than any other knick fan (except bkballer) and you always cosign a knick fan when they pump up a knick player

That’s like saying you don’t like a girl but always defending her and saying how pretty she is

I agree Felton has done a good job and is easily the best pg the knicks have had for years. They would go to a new level if Amare played better defense and rebounded more and Randolph plays up to the over exaggerated potential that some think he has. Those things happen and the knicks are almost a lock for the playoffs

I agree Felton has done a good job and is easily the best pg the knicks have had for years. They would go to a new level if Amare played better defense and rebounded more and Randolph plays up to the over exaggerated potential that some think he has. Those things happen and the knicks are almost a lock for the playoffs

Hoops you are telling me that I am a fan of  team I am not.  Is it wrong to support a team that you are not a fan of.  My homeboy is Knicks fan and I know a lot about them from talking to him and also watching their games.  I just like basketball and I have only spoke the truth.  Knicks are winning and competing against great teams.  They should get teh 7th seed in the East.  I never said anything about that.  I feel that is the truth.  People that feel they will not make the playoffs are haters.  Have you seen the East.  I say stuff about other teams but no one take shots at team like they do the Knicks and since I know a lot about the team, I give my two cents.  Amare’s defense has been pretty good.  He is active for blocks and that makes a lot of teams that last year would just drive on the Knicks think twice.  He still get beat off the dribble a few times but his defense has helped improve the overall defense of the Knicks.  His offense will come around.  I do agree he needs to score more off pick and rolls but I think they are trying to use him differently and utilize more of his skills.  I did not realize Amare was a good passer.  Turiaf is another key guy for the Knicks.  He and Amare form a nice little defensive barrier for players driving in.

Hoops you are telling me that I am a fan of  team I am not.  Is it wrong to support a team that you are not a fan of.  My homeboy is Knicks fan and I know a lot about them from talking to him and also watching their games.  I just like basketball and I have only spoke the truth.  Knicks are winning and competing against great teams.  They should get teh 7th seed in the East.  I never said anything about that.  I feel that is the truth.  People that feel they will not make the playoffs are haters.  Have you seen the East.  I say stuff about other teams but no one take shots at team like they do the Knicks and since I know a lot about the team, I give my two cents.  Amare’s defense has been pretty good.  He is active for blocks and that makes a lot of teams that last year would just drive on the Knicks think twice.  He still get beat off the dribble a few times but his defense has helped improve the overall defense of the Knicks.  His offense will come around.  I do agree he needs to score more off pick and rolls but I think they are trying to use him differently and utilize more of his skills.  I did not realize Amare was a good passer.  Turiaf is another key guy for the Knicks.  He and Amare form a nice little defensive barrier for players driving in.

hoops to go off your analogy.  I love basketball so I defend all teams. What team have I not defended.  If a dude loves all girls then he will defend any one of them if they are actually good looking and getting hated on by some jerk.

the ones that are not hated on will not get defended as much.  Knicks like that girl in that analogy is always getting hated on.

lol

hoops to go off your analogy.  I love basketball so I defend all teams. What team have I not defended.  If a dude loves all girls then he will defend any one of them if they are actually good looking and getting hated on by some jerk.

the ones that are not hated on will not get defended as much.  Knicks like that girl in that analogy is always getting hated on.

lol

You say you are a laker fab but the knicks are the only team you debate for and pump up. You do that for no other team. That’s why people think you are a knick fan. I don’t hate the knicks I just speak the truth about them when bias fans don’t seem to. Examples

Amare bad defender and rebounder 

Sergio third string pg
Billy walker isn’t a starter he’s a inconsitant back up
Fields a good pick up
Tmac after his first game would come back to earth

All those things were reality yet the bias knick fans thought I was hating untill all those things were proven fact. It’s only hating when you have zero proof for talking negitive about it. When you have proof it’s called being real and some knicks fans can’t handle it.  Most other fans can handle it I noticed( one raptors fan can’t seem to handle it and another laker fan can’t and he comes up with dumb trades that he seems to think the lakers will make) like Barkley I pull no punches and tell it like it is.

You say you are a laker fab but the knicks are the only team you debate for and pump up. You do that for no other team. That’s why people think you are a knick fan. I don’t hate the knicks I just speak the truth about them when bias fans don’t seem to. Examples

Amare bad defender and rebounder 

Sergio third string pg
Billy walker isn’t a starter he’s a inconsitant back up
Fields a good pick up
Tmac after his first game would come back to earth

All those things were reality yet the bias knick fans thought I was hating untill all those things were proven fact. It’s only hating when you have zero proof for talking negitive about it. When you have proof it’s called being real and some knicks fans can’t handle it.  Most other fans can handle it I noticed( one raptors fan can’t seem to handle it and another laker fan can’t and he comes up with dumb trades that he seems to think the lakers will make) like Barkley I pull no punches and tell it like it is.

The people who do hate on the knicks do it for good reason. Either they are nets fans( it’s there duty to hate) or they are tired of hearing every star in the world wants to go there or how great it is to play there even though they havnt made the playoffs in a decade or how good a player who they just got will be even though through out the players career ge hasn’t been that good bit Now that he’s gonna be a knick he’s gonna be that much better( like Felton averaging 20-10 because of the coach just because Nash was great in his offense but forgetting he’s had other guards in that offense who havnt been so great)  or a bunch of post about a team from there fans, who hasn’t really been relevant in the NBA other then rumors. Or how some bias fans pump up the players they do have yet not other team is tryna trade for them and no sports network or other players are talking about how good that player is. So I can understand why some may hate on them

The people who do hate on the knicks do it for good reason. Either they are nets fans( it’s there duty to hate) or they are tired of hearing every star in the world wants to go there or how great it is to play there even though they havnt made the playoffs in a decade or how good a player who they just got will be even though through out the players career ge hasn’t been that good bit Now that he’s gonna be a knick he’s gonna be that much better( like Felton averaging 20-10 because of the coach just because Nash was great in his offense but forgetting he’s had other guards in that offense who havnt been so great)  or a bunch of post about a team from there fans, who hasn’t really been relevant in the NBA other then rumors. Or how some bias fans pump up the players they do have yet not other team is tryna trade for them and no sports network or other players are talking about how good that player is. So I can understand why some may hate on them

had to make a comment about the person saying stat is playing d he has looked down rite awful on d this year and also gotta point out that 20 and 7 for a max contract guy isnt cutting it so far

had to make a comment about the person saying stat is playing d he has looked down rite awful on d this year and also gotta point out that 20 and 7 for a max contract guy isnt cutting it so far

Stanford, I never debated against any of those things but I think fields is solid, I think Walker is a solid 6 7th man.Sergio had bk up potential at one point but I don’t know what happened.  T Mac was never really healthy because he is not even healthy this year but knee injuries tend to take a year to recover so I can see him later this year or next year looking pretty good.  I remember how long it took for Hill and Mcdyess to come back from their knee injuries.  Now that they are back, they are solid players though.  That T Mac move is a move that Knicks probably wish they could take back but it was not as bad as the fact that they drafted Jordan Hill.  they could have traded the Hill pick for a future first.

Stanford, I never debated against any of those things but I think fields is solid, I think Walker is a solid 6 7th man.Sergio had bk up potential at one point but I don’t know what happened.  T Mac was never really healthy because he is not even healthy this year but knee injuries tend to take a year to recover so I can see him later this year or next year looking pretty good.  I remember how long it took for Hill and Mcdyess to come back from their knee injuries.  Now that they are back, they are solid players though.  That T Mac move is a move that Knicks probably wish they could take back but it was not as bad as the fact that they drafted Jordan Hill.  they could have traded the Hill pick for a future first.

We must have seen different game because I saw Amare hustling and blocking shots on D. Maybe I am blind though. 

We must have seen different game because I saw Amare hustling and blocking shots on D. Maybe I am blind though. 

SIGH. 5 games in and this is what I get….SMH.

SIGH. 5 games in and this is what I get….SMH.

hustling and blocking 2 shots doesnt make a player a good defender. youre right you must be blind. thats liek saying iverson was a good defender because he got steals and hustle but if you watch the game thats far from the truth. its been talked about ever year including this season so far , about his bad defense. im guessing everyone else wos watching the knicks game must not like him and are just making this stuff up

hustling and blocking 2 shots doesnt make a player a good defender. youre right you must be blind. thats liek saying iverson was a good defender because he got steals and hustle but if you watch the game thats far from the truth. its been talked about ever year including this season so far , about his bad defense. im guessing everyone else wos watching the knicks game must not like him and are just making this stuff up