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Maalik Wayns=Eric Bledsoe

Same can be said for Corey Fisher too.

I like Pitt to take the Big East next year. I’m a fan of Ashton Gibbs, who looks like an All-American candidate. I actually think he’ll win the P.O.Y in that league.They return all their important players for the most part, and should have a good amount of depth in their frontline. They have the look of a potential Final 4 team, but they have disappointed in past years when they’ve had the same Final 4 expectations.

Maalik Wayns=Eric Bledsoe

Same can be said for Corey Fisher too.

I like Pitt to take the Big East next year. I’m a fan of Ashton Gibbs, who looks like an All-American candidate. I actually think he’ll win the P.O.Y in that league.They return all their important players for the most part, and should have a good amount of depth in their frontline. They have the look of a potential Final 4 team, but they have disappointed in past years when they’ve had the same Final 4 expectations.

they are both better than Bledsoe…..they are both skilled as all hell especially Fisher…..that could be the best backcourt in the country….

they are both better than Bledsoe…..they are both skilled as all hell especially Fisher…..that could be the best backcourt in the country….

 Tim Abromitus is a straight baller. He’s getting at lest 20 a game this year with 7-8 boards and 2 assists. This guys jumper is as butter as anyone whose played for UND.

 Tim Abromitus is a straight baller. He’s getting at lest 20 a game this year with 7-8 boards and 2 assists. This guys jumper is as butter as anyone whose played for UND.

Fisher is better than Bledsoe, I agree. Not Wayns though.

Fisher should be a Kyle Lowry-type in the NBA now that I think about it. A decent backup PG who plays tough D, is a decent but not a natural playmaker, doesn’t shoot very well, and is inefficient from the field.

Fisher is better than Bledsoe, I agree. Not Wayns though.

Fisher should be a Kyle Lowry-type in the NBA now that I think about it. A decent backup PG who plays tough D, is a decent but not a natural playmaker, doesn’t shoot very well, and is inefficient from the field.

 Fisher & Wayanns are definately better than Bledsoe at this point, Fisher is a pro ready right now in my opinion.

 Fisher & Wayanns are definately better than Bledsoe at this point, Fisher is a pro ready right now in my opinion.

with his size sum team will reach for him in the lottery it always happens hes another very talented big whos got the condition issues

with his size sum team will reach for him in the lottery it always happens hes another very talented big whos got the condition issues

How is Maalik Wayns better than Eric Bledose right now? He’s clearly not better than Bledsoe is, I don’t know why people are hyping him so much. He will improve next year, but Bledsoe was a solid college player last year and is in the NBA right now. It’s not a death sentence to be compared to him.

How is Maalik Wayns better than Eric Bledose right now? He’s clearly not better than Bledsoe is, I don’t know why people are hyping him so much. He will improve next year, but Bledsoe was a solid college player last year and is in the NBA right now. It’s not a death sentence to be compared to him.

 JayNix Corey Fisher will make you eat your words this year.  Fisher’s game is more Randy Foye then Eric Bledsoe and Fisher can shoot and is an underrated playmaker. But you will see what I mean this year.

And Wayns is a hands down better prospect then Bledsoe.  Why?  Waynes is more athletic, and is a better natural play maker then Bledsoe is.  With an increased role you are going to find out that there arent many guards in the nation that can stay in front of Wayns he is incredibly fast and agile.  And he had a good freshman year despite not playing.  But he played enough to show he is better then Bledsoe.

Corey Fisher = Randy Foye

Maalik Waynes = Darren Collison

 JayNix Corey Fisher will make you eat your words this year.  Fisher’s game is more Randy Foye then Eric Bledsoe and Fisher can shoot and is an underrated playmaker. But you will see what I mean this year.

And Wayns is a hands down better prospect then Bledsoe.  Why?  Waynes is more athletic, and is a better natural play maker then Bledsoe is.  With an increased role you are going to find out that there arent many guards in the nation that can stay in front of Wayns he is incredibly fast and agile.  And he had a good freshman year despite not playing.  But he played enough to show he is better then Bledsoe.

Corey Fisher = Randy Foye

Maalik Waynes = Darren Collison

I changed my comparison to Kyle Lowry for Fisher. Corey Fisher isn’t close to being as big as Randy Foye and would VERY rarely be able to play off the ball in the NBA at 6’1 the way Foye has at 6’4. Also, Maalik Wayns isn’t as good as Darren Collison. Neither one of them will ever be an everyday starting PG in the NBA, like Foye and Collison have been. I guarantee it.

Also, you must have never in your life watched Eric Bledsoe play basketball before, to say Maalik Wayns is more athletic than him. Also, he’s not a better natural playmaker than Bledsoe. It’s very even on that regard. Wayns averaged more turnovers than assists, as did Bledsoe as a Fr. Both are transition guys who look to attack the rim and drive and dish, and both have mediocre natural playmaking skills. As I said, Wayns isn’t better than Eric Bledsoe at all.

I changed my comparison to Kyle Lowry for Fisher. Corey Fisher isn’t close to being as big as Randy Foye and would VERY rarely be able to play off the ball in the NBA at 6’1 the way Foye has at 6’4. Also, Maalik Wayns isn’t as good as Darren Collison. Neither one of them will ever be an everyday starting PG in the NBA, like Foye and Collison have been. I guarantee it.

Also, you must have never in your life watched Eric Bledsoe play basketball before, to say Maalik Wayns is more athletic than him. Also, he’s not a better natural playmaker than Bledsoe. It’s very even on that regard. Wayns averaged more turnovers than assists, as did Bledsoe as a Fr. Both are transition guys who look to attack the rim and drive and dish, and both have mediocre natural playmaking skills. As I said, Wayns isn’t better than Eric Bledsoe at all.

I changed my comparison to Kyle Lowry for Fisher. Corey Fisher isn’t close to being as big as Randy Foye and would VERY rarely be able to play off the ball in the NBA at 6’1 the way Foye has at 6’4. Also, Maalik Wayns isn’t as good as Darren Collison. Neither one of them will ever be an everyday starting PG in the NBA, like Foye and Collison have been. I guarantee it.

Also, you must have never in your life watched Eric Bledsoe play basketball before, to say Maalik Wayns is more athletic than him. Also, he’s not a better natural playmaker than Bledsoe. It’s very even on that regard. Wayns averaged more turnovers than assists, as did Bledsoe as a Fr. Both are transition guys who look to attack the rim and drive and dish, and both have mediocre natural playmaking skills. As I said, Wayns isn’t better than Eric Bledsoe at all.

Fisher is one of a kind…..he’s more like Rafer Alston…..

Fisher is one of a kind…..he’s more like Rafer Alston…..

Either way he’s a true backup PG who isn’t efficient from the field, shoots mediocre from the 3, and plays tough D. And is only mediocre as a playmaker.

Either way he’s a true backup PG who isn’t efficient from the field, shoots mediocre from the 3, and plays tough D. And is only mediocre as a playmaker.

I don’t think he’s more than a backup in the NBA either….but in a weak big east he is probably all-league…

I don’t think he’s more than a backup in the NBA either….but in a weak big east he is probably all-league…

 JayNix you are kinda correct about Fisher i keep forgetting he isn’t 6’3 but closer to 6’1.  Fisher don’t have Lowry’s leadership, defense or natural PG skills.  Kyle Lowry should be starting in this league.  But what Fisher can do is shoot and score.  And Fisher does make plays.  He may not be a natural point guard but he is a good passer and a great ball handler.  For this reason I am changing my comparison to that of Eddie House.

And you are completely wrong about Wayns.  Wayns was rated higher then Bledsoe coming into college on almost all scouting services.  And Wayns Points, assists, and steals were both higher then Bledsoes Per 40.  Bledoe averaged more turnoves then assists playing shooting guard on a team with John Wall.  That’s terrible.

I like Bledsoe and he reminds more of Kyle Lowry then anybody.  

But to think that Bledsoe is a better prospect because of that one season at Kentucky is foolish.  Going into last year if you were to say Bledsoe was better then Wayns most people would disagree.  Not because he played on that monster squad and went in the first round he is better?  Wayns did great in the time he got to play.  

And yes Ima huge Demarcus Cousins fan so I watched Kentucky a lot last year and I liked Bledsoe.  But he is not as good a play maker as Waynes and he’s not as athletic.  Tho Bledsoe is super quick and strong.  Maalik Wayns is a complete blur to watch in person.  Wayns got better ball handling and court vision.  And the dude is a freak athlete with the ball in his hands.  I’m willing to bet that Wayns is the fastest player in college with the ball in his hands this year.

 JayNix you are kinda correct about Fisher i keep forgetting he isn’t 6’3 but closer to 6’1.  Fisher don’t have Lowry’s leadership, defense or natural PG skills.  Kyle Lowry should be starting in this league.  But what Fisher can do is shoot and score.  And Fisher does make plays.  He may not be a natural point guard but he is a good passer and a great ball handler.  For this reason I am changing my comparison to that of Eddie House.

And you are completely wrong about Wayns.  Wayns was rated higher then Bledsoe coming into college on almost all scouting services.  And Wayns Points, assists, and steals were both higher then Bledsoes Per 40.  Bledoe averaged more turnoves then assists playing shooting guard on a team with John Wall.  That’s terrible.

I like Bledsoe and he reminds more of Kyle Lowry then anybody.  

But to think that Bledsoe is a better prospect because of that one season at Kentucky is foolish.  Going into last year if you were to say Bledsoe was better then Wayns most people would disagree.  Not because he played on that monster squad and went in the first round he is better?  Wayns did great in the time he got to play.  

And yes Ima huge Demarcus Cousins fan so I watched Kentucky a lot last year and I liked Bledsoe.  But he is not as good a play maker as Waynes and he’s not as athletic.  Tho Bledsoe is super quick and strong.  Maalik Wayns is a complete blur to watch in person.  Wayns got better ball handling and court vision.  And the dude is a freak athlete with the ball in his hands.  I’m willing to bet that Wayns is the fastest player in college with the ball in his hands this year.

I’ve seen Wayns in person and its no joke……

and Fisher probably has the best handles of anyone in the country this year…..that’s why they call him Fisher Price….cuz he toys with people….

I’ve seen Wayns in person and its no joke……

and Fisher probably has the best handles of anyone in the country this year…..that’s why they call him Fisher Price….cuz he toys with people….

I’ve seen Wayns in person and its no joke……

and Fisher probably has the best handles of anyone in the country this year…..that’s why they call him Fisher Price….cuz he toys with people….

"And you are completely wrong about Wayns. Wayns was rated higher then Bledsoe coming into college on almost all scouting services. And Wayns Points, assists, and steals were both higher then Bledsoes Per 40. Bledoe averaged more turnoves then assists playing shooting guard on a team with John Wall. That’s terrible"

Who really cares if he was ranked higher than him out of high school? This isn’t high school anymore. Per 40 minute stats are irrelevant, pace adjusted stats as a whole leave out so many variables that would take place in an actual game. Neither Eric Bledsoe or Maalik Wayns would ever play 40 minutes every game of a season, so why bring up 40 minute stats. Leave that argument for someone who doesn’t watch actual basketball and plays fantasy sports. I do doubt that Wayns would’ve been as effective as Bledsoe playing next to John Wall and with DeMarcus Cousins, especially since he isn’t the spot up shooter that Bledsoe is. He also shows the same level of PG skills (both are raw and not more than mediocre true PG’s). And Maalik Wayns played next to Scottie Reynolds AND Corey Fisher, so it’s even more "terrible" that Wayns averaged more TO’s than assists, using your logic. Maalik Wayns isn’t better than Eric Bledsoe right now. You literally have nothing to show for that argument.

And how can you compare Corey Fisher to Eddie House? They don’t play alike. Fisher is much more athletic and quick, is much more likely to try and get to the rim off the dribble than House has ever been, and he’s a much better defender. He also shows more true PG skills. House also is a much better shooter. Also, Kyle Lowry should NOT be a starting PG. And when I say Fisher’s not a natural playmaker, that wasn’t a reference to his ability to score. It was to say that he’s not a true PG. I actually think you know what I meant, but you just wanted to make it like you didn’t so you could argue.

"And you are completely wrong about Wayns. Wayns was rated higher then Bledsoe coming into college on almost all scouting services. And Wayns Points, assists, and steals were both higher then Bledsoes Per 40. Bledoe averaged more turnoves then assists playing shooting guard on a team with John Wall. That’s terrible"

Who really cares if he was ranked higher than him out of high school? This isn’t high school anymore. Per 40 minute stats are irrelevant, pace adjusted stats as a whole leave out so many variables that would take place in an actual game. Neither Eric Bledsoe or Maalik Wayns would ever play 40 minutes every game of a season, so why bring up 40 minute stats. Leave that argument for someone who doesn’t watch actual basketball and plays fantasy sports. I do doubt that Wayns would’ve been as effective as Bledsoe playing next to John Wall and with DeMarcus Cousins, especially since he isn’t the spot up shooter that Bledsoe is. He also shows the same level of PG skills (both are raw and not more than mediocre true PG’s). And Maalik Wayns played next to Scottie Reynolds AND Corey Fisher, so it’s even more "terrible" that Wayns averaged more TO’s than assists, using your logic. Maalik Wayns isn’t better than Eric Bledsoe right now. You literally have nothing to show for that argument.

And how can you compare Corey Fisher to Eddie House? They don’t play alike. Fisher is much more athletic and quick, is much more likely to try and get to the rim off the dribble than House has ever been, and he’s a much better defender. He also shows more true PG skills. House also is a much better shooter. Also, Kyle Lowry should NOT be a starting PG. And when I say Fisher’s not a natural playmaker, that wasn’t a reference to his ability to score. It was to say that he’s not a true PG. I actually think you know what I meant, but you just wanted to make it like you didn’t so you could argue.

its just the eye test….Wayns is better than Bledsoe just by the eye test…..its impossible to compare them stat wise cuz Wayns couldn’t have averaged over 10 mpg….

its just the eye test….Wayns is better than Bledsoe just by the eye test…..its impossible to compare them stat wise cuz Wayns couldn’t have averaged over 10 mpg….

 I agree with the part about Lowry not being a starter. I do really like his game though, and I would love to have him on my team. He just seems like the perfect point guard to have come off the bench.

 I agree with the part about Lowry not being a starter. I do really like his game though, and I would love to have him on my team. He just seems like the perfect point guard to have come off the bench.

he got the shaft by getting stuck on the same team with the league’s most improved player…..he was penciled in as the PG of the future in Houston….I bet Memphis wishes they would’ve slowed their roll getting rid of him….

he got the shaft by getting stuck on the same team with the league’s most improved player…..he was penciled in as the PG of the future in Houston….I bet Memphis wishes they would’ve slowed their roll getting rid of him….

 Lowry was looked at as a potential starter in Houston.  Lowry is hands down better then Conley and the team played better when he played.  There a bunch of teams Lowry could start on.  Toronto, possibly Charlotte LB would love Lowry, Miami, He’s better then Ramon Sessions, Sacramento Lowry>Udrih and they’re just off the top of my head.

And the House-Fisher comparison was strictly off of what sort of role they will have in the NBA.  I think Fisher will be used as a combo guard off the bench to come in and score and make plays.

And spot up shooting is about the only thing at the moment that Bledsoe can do better then Wayns.  Wayns plays very similar to Collison with his speed change of direction ability with the ball in his hands.  Wayns is just simply a natural point guard with insane speed that doesn’t slow down making the move with the ball in his hands, he’s strong can get into the lane an finish with an array of floaters.  Is a better pull up shooter.  And has better court vision which will be on full display this year. 

 Lowry was looked at as a potential starter in Houston.  Lowry is hands down better then Conley and the team played better when he played.  There a bunch of teams Lowry could start on.  Toronto, possibly Charlotte LB would love Lowry, Miami, He’s better then Ramon Sessions, Sacramento Lowry>Udrih and they’re just off the top of my head.

And the House-Fisher comparison was strictly off of what sort of role they will have in the NBA.  I think Fisher will be used as a combo guard off the bench to come in and score and make plays.

And spot up shooting is about the only thing at the moment that Bledsoe can do better then Wayns.  Wayns plays very similar to Collison with his speed change of direction ability with the ball in his hands.  Wayns is just simply a natural point guard with insane speed that doesn’t slow down making the move with the ball in his hands, he’s strong can get into the lane an finish with an array of floaters.  Is a better pull up shooter.  And has better court vision which will be on full display this year. 

Lowry was looked at as a potential starter in Houston. Lowry is hands down better then Conley and the team played better when he played. There a bunch of teams Lowry could start on. Toronto, possibly Charlotte LB would love Lowry, Miami, He’s better then Ramon Sessions, Sacramento Lowry>Udrih and they’re just off the top of my head.

He’s not better than Mike Conley though. Not sure why you think that lol. If Lowry and Conley fought over the PG spot, Conley would win and it wouldn’t really be a discussion.

Just because he could start on Charlotte doesn’t mean he’s a good starting PG, and it’s not even guaranteed he’d start over Augustin. The Bobcats need shooting more than they need defense, and Lowry can’t shoot.

There are a bunch of players that could start at PG on a team with Lebron, Wade and Bosh. That’s not saying much.

Lowry and Sessions are the same level player, and I don’t know who would start over who.

Lowry wouldn’t start over Udrih. Udrih fits better with the Kings than Lowry does. A Lowry and Evans backcourt would be EASILY the worst shooting backcourt in basketball, and Evans needs the ball too much for Lowry to be effective.

Lowry is a backup PG. The only team you listed that he’d start on is the Heat. And that’s because they are very weak at the spot and because they don’t need a traditional PG. He actually probably would split time at the PG spot with Chalmers and Arroyo too, since the Heat need shooting more than an inefficient player who isn’t a great playmaker. Just because you like him doens’t mean he’s a starting PG.

Lowry was looked at as a potential starter in Houston. Lowry is hands down better then Conley and the team played better when he played. There a bunch of teams Lowry could start on. Toronto, possibly Charlotte LB would love Lowry, Miami, He’s better then Ramon Sessions, Sacramento Lowry>Udrih and they’re just off the top of my head.

He’s not better than Mike Conley though. Not sure why you think that lol. If Lowry and Conley fought over the PG spot, Conley would win and it wouldn’t really be a discussion.

Just because he could start on Charlotte doesn’t mean he’s a good starting PG, and it’s not even guaranteed he’d start over Augustin. The Bobcats need shooting more than they need defense, and Lowry can’t shoot.

There are a bunch of players that could start at PG on a team with Lebron, Wade and Bosh. That’s not saying much.

Lowry and Sessions are the same level player, and I don’t know who would start over who.

Lowry wouldn’t start over Udrih. Udrih fits better with the Kings than Lowry does. A Lowry and Evans backcourt would be EASILY the worst shooting backcourt in basketball, and Evans needs the ball too much for Lowry to be effective.

Lowry is a backup PG. The only team you listed that he’d start on is the Heat. And that’s because they are very weak at the spot and because they don’t need a traditional PG. He actually probably would split time at the PG spot with Chalmers and Arroyo too, since the Heat need shooting more than an inefficient player who isn’t a great playmaker. Just because you like him doens’t mean he’s a starting PG.