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  • #22121
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    llperez

    just curious becasue he has been suspended from all basketball related activities after turning himslef into poilce for aggravated assault. He apparently punched his girlfriend and broke her jaw. How does this effect baylors season if he cant play?

    http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2010-10-05/baylor-guard-lacedarius-dunn-charged-with-aggravated-assault

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  • #409529
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    joecheck88
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    how does effect his pro career?

    why these guys continue to do this to themselves is beyond me. smh.

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  • #409537
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    Da1pot
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    The chance of them contending for a national championship is ruined if he doesn’t play for them this season. They still have enough talent to make the tourney, but he is their best player it is nearly impossible to replace what he brings to the table.

    What a stupid way to mess up your senior year of college and possibly your NBA career. The fact that he turned himself in though likely means he will not face as serious a punishment…..

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  • #409541
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    stanford hoops

    wow he broke her jaw?..thats worst then actually slapping or hitting a girl and just leaving a bruise. its very possible that he will get kicked off the team depending on media coverage.

     

    without him they are still a tournament team. i think its possible to go far because when you lose one player sometimes other guys step up and the team finds more options

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  • #409545
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    JoeWolf1

     Yikes, I bet they come down hard on him.  Many people have forgotten about their murder scandal or didn’t know about it in the first place.  Knowing the media, I think Dunn’s trouble with the law will at least get mention to Baylor’s trouble in the past.  I think Baylor is going to really be strict here.

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  • #409554
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    JNixon
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    Wow!!! They will be a bubble team without him at best probably, but they potentially could be a losing team without him. They lack another truly great scorer. Perry Jones would put up good numbers, but he’s not polished enough to be a 1st option scorer, even in college.

     I can’t believe that he did that! LaceDarius Dunn (and his jump shot) is my favorite college basketball player to watch play, even more so than the Kansas State guys. This was dumb by him. They become a much worse team without him and his lethal scoring punch.

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  • #409556
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    SmooveKRYPT
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    I agree 100% with JoeWolf. That school & athletic department has worked extremely hard to rebuild their reputation since the murder scandal. They just regained some positive spotlight back last year, they are not gonna stand by for this. I think they have no choice but to come down hard on him(wouldn’t surprise me if he’s kicked off the team).

    I had this team as an early final 4 candidate, but no more w/o him.

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  • #409560
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    stanford hoops

    have ya’ll even played college basketball before?..bad team without him?..they are still a team. hes good but they werent gonna live and die by him because they had a bunch of other players and its a team game. how quick we have forgotten about tenn when they lost there star. Its a team game fellas and dunn isnt lebron,kobe,durant. they would survive without him

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  • #409587
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    knicksfan7
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    Guys can we just wait to see how the justice system plays out before we say what ruling gets handed to him. As for how Baylor can fare without him, I think they will struggle at the beginning lacking that go to guy and vet presence, but other players will step up as the season goes on. I also think Coach Drew is a top coach in college basketball that he will still lead the team to the tournament and maybe win a game or two. He is a guy I can see winning Coach of the year award within 5 years.

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  • #409602
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    JNixon
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    They were going to depend ALOT on his scoring ability next year. Dunn is a top 3 Big 12 P.O.Y candidate, and without his scoring ability, they don’t have many shot-creators.

    A.J. Walton is a mediocre PG. If you ask him to shoulder a scoring load (or a big playmaking load for that matter), he will struggle. He’s a caretaker and spot-up shooter.

    Quincy Acy is a finisher at the rim when set up or off loose balls. He’s not going to be more than an 11 ppg scorer.

    Perry Jones could score about 14 or 15 ppg without Dunn, but he wouldn’t be as efficient with it. He’s not polished enough to carry that load.

    Anthony Jones has the talent to be a 11 or 12 ppg scorer next year, but he’s a jump shooter and he hasn’t shown much aggressiveness since he;s been at Baylor for the most part. He also benefits from the attention Tweety Carter used to get, and LaceDaruis Dunn got. And even with all that attention away from him, he put up 6.5 ppg as a 6’10 SF.

    J’Mison Morgan isn’t a scorer at all, and only is a likely starter because he would’ve given Baylor roster flexibility.

    They would be a bubble team AT BEST, without Dunn. I don’t have to play college basketball to know that. Where did you even play? Where you at Duke with Jay Williams? Or was it Arizona with Agent 0? It’s pretty lame to try and rub in people’s face that you played college basketball. What does that prove in this dicussion? Especially seeing as you didn’t play at a good school or a prestiguous school.

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  • #409605
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    stanford hoops

    dunn isnt jay will or agent zero and both teams did pretty well when both of those guys left.

    what happen to tenn once tyler smith was dismissed?

    it proves that some people who dont play(like youre self obviously)

    dont understand how a team can still be pretty good after losing there top scorer because other guys step up especially if they other players who are pretty good in there own right. happens all the time

    its alot easier to understand certain thing when you have actually done them like in sports

    or if we talked about the law and you were a former lawyer, medicine if youre a former doctor. its nothing to get but hurt about or have youre pride hurt about thats just how it is. when i talk int he football chat i know that some of the guys who have played football all through there life are gonna know alil more about football then me if all i did is watch it. i dont get butt hurt over it. doesnt matter if they went to a top school or not

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  • #409616
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    JNixon
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    "what happen to tenn once tyler smith was dismissed?"

    They had scorers (Wayne Chism, Scotty Hopson and alot of talent and athleticism still on their team when he left. That’s what happened. Smith provides intangibles and all-around ability, not any particular dominant skills like Dunn possesses. The only potential true scorer Baylor has left on their team is Perry Jones, and his scoring ability is unpolished if you want him to be your 1st option.

    "dont understand how a team can still be pretty good after losing there top scorer because other guys step up especially if they other players who are pretty good in there own right. happens all the time"

    Not if you lose an All-American on a top devoid of another potentially dynamic scorer. LaceDarius Dunn is one of the top 2 or 3 perimeter scorers in the nation. That’s going to be hard for them to replace. If you think they’ll still be a top 15 team without LaceDarius Dunn, more power to you. But I watch Baylor enough to KNOW that won’t be the case.

    "or if we talked about the law and you were a former lawyer, medicine if youre a former doctor. its nothing to get but hurt about or have youre pride hurt about thats just how it is. when i talk int he football chat i know that some of the guys who have played football all through there life are gonna know alil more about football then me if all i did is watch it. i dont get butt hurt over it. doesnt matter if they went to a top school or not"

    I’m willing to bet you’ve never played with an All-American player/a guy who got suspended that was expected to carry an extremely significant portion of your offensive. It does matter what level you’re at. You playing at whatever small school you played at, and playing for a team that could be a Final 4 team are 2 different things. It’s also sad that a grown man would try and rub in someone’s face that he played college basketball, so you just know everything. You can’t pull rank if you went to a baby-ass college and then try and hold that up with saying that you’re right and I’m wrong about a school that has way more implications than the small school you attended. That’s silly

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  • #409619
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    stanford hoops

    actually i went to westvirgina then transferreed because of grades. we had a bunch of other guys who were also at very good d1 schools and that went on to play rpo ball one of which got invited to predraft camp. dont try to down play the talent of my school to prove a point. there are many guys who didnt play d1 because of getting in trouble or grades not talent and there are many that prove how good the are by beating out guys who played at top schools when they tryout for teams in europe

    the guy (josh allen) was a 1st team d1 all american and went to the predraft camp and played well while marty blake said he was damn near a lock to get drafted and he was invited to camp

    before you talk about someone else basketball tlent or college how have some type of basketball talent to even get on a highschool team let alone a so called "baby ass college" i can see if you had some type of basketball talent then you could talk but you clearly dont so exactly what gives you any right to down grade those who did something you could not?..now thats silly/hating

     

    reminds me of the saying "those who cant do teach"

    "those who cant play basketball become bloggers/scouts"

     

    As far as baylor yes it will hurt that they dont have dunn..what team wouldnt but they have a good team. full of guys who play good defense and a team that can score by committee. players get better each year so its not far fetched to think the players they have coming back will be better. im a maryland fan and without dunn this team is still better then the terps and the terps arent considered a bubble team. on top of all that baylors coach is a very good coach

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  • #409623
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    JNixon
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    All that writing is nice and whatever, but it still doesn’t prove that you have any idea what you’re talking about. Baylor without Dunn is a bubble team at absolute best.

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  • #409626
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    stanford hoops

    youre opinion..for some reason you always get offended when someone doesnt agree with youre opinion. seen it plenty of times. news flash youre opinion is just that. just because someone doesnt share youre opinion doesnt make them wrong

    And yeah i did do all that writing because of the ignorant shit you said about baby ass college when you have no basketball skills. you obviousl think just because some one doesnt go to some big college it must be because they dont have skills. no different then some dick head thinking a college student isnt smart because they didnt go to harvard,yale or some other academic school.

    basically you showed the very definition of being a hater

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  • #409630
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    JNixon
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    I don’t get mad honestly. I just debate on here. I don’t make faces or yell at my computer lol. I’m not about to get mad discussing other men. Especially since they don’t know me. That’s pretty gay. If I feel like I’m right about something, I’ll defend what I say whether I’m right or wrong.

    I’m not hating. You throwing that you played college basketball in my face, like that just means you know everything, just was lame to me. So I let you know how I felt. I have never seen you before. Never met you in person. I have no reason to hate. I’d rather coach or scout than play college basketball anyway, so you playing for a small college doesn’t hurt me. I just don’t care for you pulling rank about something you really have the same level of competence as me about wasn’t cool. So I took it in my own hands and reeled you back to Earth. Simple as that. 🙂

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  • #409647
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    stanford hoops

    has nothing to do with pulling rank. just common sense. lets say youve followed basketball all youre life. ive followed it as well except ive also played it and grew up around people in and close to my family who have played on ever level. so it stands to reason there will be time si will have more insite then you on basketball. thats just a fact

     

    no different then both of us likeing european history except you not only grew up in europe but you also took european history classes all youre life

    you just seem to have a problem with people who dont share youre opinion and this isnt the first time someone has actually said something to you about that on here

    And yeah im sure you rather coach then play. that seems to go against what you have said in the past when every asked peopel about playing basketball. thats a cop out statement. you wanna coach or scout because you didnt/dont have the talent to play basketball even on the highschool level

    how you figured you reeled anyone back to earth?..youre a blooger im sorry to hurt youre ego but you dont have that power. to be honest you havent done anything to be considered important in any aspect in life. no one is willing to pay you for any talent you have. you wasnt good enough to play college or highschool basketball. youre not good enough to get put on to any scouting site and you dont know enough about basketball to coach. youre like the nerd in the basement talking about how much you know about something you have never did. the kid that gets picked last in a pickup basketball game then take there anger out on a website  and try to put down someone who actually used basketball to pay for his schooling and pay for his and some of his families bills

    you seem to have a high opinion of youre self when you have done nothing to gain that high opinion. i can see if you were actully want by say a duke or unc then talked down on guys who played small college ball but you werent so you have zero right. its so easy to hide behind a fake name and try to put down people, like throwing gummy bears from the back row in a crowded dark movie.

    now that im done with my rant i will leave this fourm and let you go back to youre boring life thats full of zero accomplishments

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  • #409648
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    I don’t wanna read all the comments so here’s my 2 sense.

    I don’t think he’s gone for the season. Maybe 10 games..

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  • #409656
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    knicksfan7
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    Quincey you’re foolish. To actually write this,

    reminds me of the saying "those who cant do teach"

    "those who cant play basketball become bloggers/scouts"
    No those who can’t play basketball become coaches. Coach and teacher mean the same thing being a math teacher is no different than coaching basketball just two different disciplines. Why do you think most college basketball players have degrees in education becuase with a degree in education you get a better understanding in how to teach people which makes coaching easier. Also to add many top players have flamed out as coaches because they just couldn’t teach there abilities to others. 

    I have read too many of your posts to know how you operate. Your posts are basically bullying others about how you played the sport which makes you believe you’re entitled to know more than others, when that is far from the case. I don’t think you lack knowledge, but I don’t think you’re extremely knowledgable either. I bet you think the same of me, so I could care less what you have to say. I just had to make a post because I am sick of reading how you skew things.

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  • #409658
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    JNixon
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    "has nothing to do with pulling rank. just common sense. lets say youve followed basketball all youre life. ive followed it as well except ive also played it and grew up around people in and close to my family who have played on ever level. so it stands to reason there will be time si will have more insite then you on basketball. thats just a fact

     no different then both of us likeing european history except you not only grew up in europe but you also took european history classes all youre life

    you just seem to have a problem with people who dont share youre opinion and this isnt the first time someone has actually said something to you about that on here

    And yeah im sure you rather coach then play. that seems to go against what you have said in the past when every asked peopel about playing basketball. thats a cop out statement. you wanna coach or scout because you didnt/dont have the talent to play basketball even on the highschool level

    how you figured you reeled anyone back to earth?..youre a blooger im sorry to hurt youre ego but you dont have that power. to be honest you havent done anything to be considered important in any aspect in life. no one is willing to pay you for any talent you have. you wasnt good enough to play college or highschool basketball. youre not good enough to get put on to any scouting site and you dont know enough about basketball to coach. youre like the nerd in the basement talking about how much you know about something you have never did. the kid that gets picked last in a pickup basketball game then take there anger out on a website and try to put down someone who actually used basketball to pay for his schooling and pay for his and some of his families bills

    you seem to have a high opinion of youre self when you have done nothing to gain that high opinion. i can see if you were actully want by say a duke or unc then talked down on guys who played small college ball but you werent so you have zero right. its so easy to hide behind a fake name and try to put down people, like throwing gummy bears from the back row in a crowded dark movie.

    now that im done with my rant i will leave this fourm and let you go back to youre boring life thats full of zero accomplishments"

    LMAO, you mad? hahahahaha. You have officially hurt my feelings man.

     

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  • #409678
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    scoutguru
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    Crazy how a team who nba gurus and the like, are billing as a top pick (1-4 maybe), is not ready to carry a college team. Not a slight at perry jones who’s only coming in as a young freshman, and its somewhat unfair to have all those expectations placed on the kid if Lace is out for long, even though he’s highly touted. But it just shows you what the draft has morphed into over the past decade +. Just a complete guessing game based on sometimes the most unrealistic of expectations and projections…

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  • #409792
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    Pureshooter
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    Tony Woods for Wake Forest pulled a similar stunt, except he fractured his girlfriend’s SPINE.  What’s wrong with these guys?  This kind of BS is indefensible. 

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  • #409803
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    TooNice4TV
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     anger management classes if they offer it as an elective

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  • #409821
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    McWinning
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    With Tony Mitchell out, and if Dunn misses a lot of time this reaffirms to me that Kansas state is the team to beat in the big 12.

    Im definetly keeping them as my pick to win the big 12.

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  • #409844
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Hitting a woman is always wrong..

    But some women can do & say things that would provoke even Mister Rogers or Pee Wee Herman to beat that ass..

    Not only should Dunn be sent to Anger Management Classes so should the young lady..Becuz some girls get pleasure out of seeing guys who have done them wrong, get punish to the extreme..Everyone always mention a guy hitting or beating a girl..But they never speak about what might’ve lead to it…

    Just think about all the times in your life who have really really pissed you off more a man or a woman?

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  • #409898
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    llperez

    we cant assume anything without knowing the details. But the girl would have had to do some real bad sh.it to deserve to get beat up. Even then, dunn needs to be smarter and tell her to screw off and walk, away he has too much to lose.

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  • #409900
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    billyk
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    He could have beaten her up because he is a TROLL….

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  • #410328
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    hiphopismylife
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    Yeah Baylor had some major question marks to warrant a top ten ranking even WITH Dunn coming into the year, I just don’t see a tourney team without him.

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  • #410348
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    Anton123
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     His girlfriend asked for the charges to be dismissed, if she has no problem with it, I guess you shouldn’t judge him lol

    She says it was an accident, maybe this is true

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  • #410350
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    llperez

    she also said he hit her and broke her jaw over an argument the day before. Lots of girls appologize for their man hitting them after the fact and dont press charges but the police can go right along with it if they have evidence somehting did happen regardless of the girls story. The broken jaw part is pretty important and it seems like it would be easy prove or not seeing as how she went to a hospital and was treated. If it wasnt broken, that should be obvious from the doctors reports.

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