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  • #21728
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    http://www.tokyoapache.com/en/pre-season-saitama-game-ends-in-win/

    Tokyo visited the Saitama Broncos for the first pre-season game of the Apache 2010-2011 season and left with a 68-58 win.

    The Apache got off to a slow start, shooting only 28% in the first half. But, the team battled back in the second half with a strong scoring performance by Kendall Dartez, finishing with 18 points.

    “We need to shoot the ball better and make more stops on defense,” commented Tokyo Coach Bob Hill.

    Kendall Dartez and Jeremy Tyler led the Apache with 10 rebounds and 7 rebounds respectively, and Jeremy Tyler also added 2 blocks. Byron Eaton and Darin Maki shared the lead on the assists with 4 each.

    “This was a great way to get things started. The guys were able to get a feel for the court, the competition, the ball, and all of the other nuances of a live game,” said General Manager Conor Neu. “I really appreciate all of our fans coming out to support us. I was surprised to see so many of our fans there. It means a lot to the team and we are really looking forward to interacting with the fans this season.”

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  • #404729
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    JoeWolf1

    I think this was a good move for Jeremy, I don’t feel he’s ready to play at a high level in Europe, and he’ll have more of an opportunity to play minutes in Tokoyo. I still don’t know what I think of him as a prospect, I have a gut feeling he won’t amount to much but he has great physical tools.

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    • #425370
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       Check out the trailer for the documentary on Jeremy Tyler.  We have been following his life for the last three years and it has been a true roller coaster ride.  Since his controversial decision to leave high school earlier to play professional basketball overseas he has been battling corruption and immense personal obstacles on his way to the NBA.

      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cavelightfilms/my-life-chasing-the-dream

      We need your help to make this film a reality.  

      Jordan Ehrlich and Andrew Gallery 

      http://www.cavelightfilms.com

       

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    • #425385
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       Check out the trailer for the documentary on Jeremy Tyler.  We have been following his life for the last three years and it has been a true roller coaster ride.  Since his controversial decision to leave high school earlier to play professional basketball overseas he has been battling corruption and immense personal obstacles on his way to the NBA.

      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cavelightfilms/my-life-chasing-the-dream

      We need your help to make this film a reality.  

      Jordan Ehrlich and Andrew Gallery 

      http://www.cavelightfilms.com

       

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  • #404738
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    Mr. 19134
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    Lenny Cooke of big men.

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  • #404742
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    Tyler took a path not many 18-year olds are ready for. He didn’t respond well, but that doesn’t change the fact that he was 18. He is also about 6’10 or 6’11 so he will have nine lives. He is in a new spot with an American coach in Bob Hill who might be viewing the development of Tyler as his ticket back to the NBA in some capacity. It’ll only take one team to buy in.

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  • #404744
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    McDunkin

    but Japan is even worse than the Chinese league as far as competition goes. He could have a 50 point game in the BJ league and it really wouldnt mean anything compared to dropping even 20 in the Euroleague or D-League. I think this was one of the worst options for him. Im sure there was a low level european team willing to give him playing time despite the bad attitude he showed in the past

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  • #404745
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    By no means am I defending the Japanese BJ league or his handlers, but he is getting professional coaching from a longtime, respected NBA guy. The numbers don’t really matter. I don’t think any team will be drafting him with the expectation that he would have an immediate impact, but I do think that if he goes through the season without any problems and acting like a professional some team will find enough potential in him to take a chance.

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  • #404748
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    this guys whole nba future is beginning to go up in flames…. any guy that walks out midway through the season is a bum in my eyes, im not cheering for him actually im more or less rooting against him, he is arrogant and misinformed

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  • #404752
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    Mr. 19134
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    Yeah Tyler does just seem extremely arrogant and it’s obvious that he’s not the franchise talent that scouts once thought he was. A franchise talent would never have the mental breakdown that Tyler went through. Look at what Jennings did, he is a perfect example of how the European experience should of went but then again Jennings is a franchise talent.

    Regardless at the end of the day Tyler is 6’11, athletic, and can block shots so he will get drafted anyway but his best bet since he is already getting paid to play basketball is to wait and develop a few years before he enters. I highly doubt anybody risks a first round pick on him this year.

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  • #404758
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    I completely disagree with you saying a franchise player can’t have a mental breakdown. It’s a different sport, but Ken Griffey Jr. attempted suicide at around the age Tyler is at now, and he is one of the greatest baseball players ever. Anyone can have a mental breakdown, stars aren’t immune to it. He is a young kid, he is going to make mistakes.

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  • #404764
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    Im Your Father
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    I completely agree. I also think that people change and become more mature. You are assuming that he will remain exactly as he is now at 18 for the rest of his life. I’m 18 right now, and I’d hate to think that no one will ever forgive me for relatively inconsequential mistakes that I make now.

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  • #404766
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    I’m 18 as well and I’ve done stupid things in the past, everyone has. But I’m still young. Like you said, things will change.

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  • #404774
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    JoeWolf1

    Although I completely agree with you guys about being too harsh on young guys in situations like these, that doesn’t mean that his decisions earn him a mulligan. Many guys get their act together and prove the critics wrong, but to say his actions don’t mean anything is in accurate. He now has that label for walking out on a team and he can turn it around, but it’s his label now. Just the same that 18 year olds in everyday life do something stupid like get a DUI or get busted with pot face the consequences, Tyler has consequences for his actions. He can most definately turn his act around, but thats the name of the game, and he screwed up. It’s up to him to turn it around, not for people to say aw he’s just a kid, because NBA players are million dollar investments for teams. Not only do teams want the best players available, they want good teammates, high characters and faces for their organization and community.

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  • #404795
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    Don’t confuse what he did with something criminal like a DUI. He basically had his first job and quit before they fired him. It isn’t something to be proud of, but there is a difference in maturity with regards to criminal behavior and maturity with regards to professionalism. He took a public shaming for how things went last year and, in as much as anyone that age can deserve public shaming, deserved it. It still stuns me how Davon Jefferson of all people could have called him unprofessional, but it happens. It doesn’t mean he can’t take advantage of his current situation of being coached every day by a longtime NBA coach who knows how to prepare him for his dream job.

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  • #404798
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    JoeWolf1

    What I meant was an immature action has consequences, a better everyday example would have probably been failing your first year of college, you can turn it around, but you’re on probation you lose scholarships etc….I wasn’t trying to make him out to be a criminal, but regardless of your age, your actions have consequences.

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  • #404809
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    AllDayyy
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    Jeremy Tyler is such a giant douchebag. He and Easy-E’s daughter need to go be jewish and take over the world together. I hate this kid.

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  • #404875
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    Your a racist idiot, who sounds like he is very uneducated and who sounds like he is down with Hitler

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    • #405247
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      AllDayyy
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      How is the fact that I find Eazy-E’s daughter being jewish and her comments of her and Jeremy taking over the ahtletic and entertainment world racst?

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  • #405416
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    As someone who is Jewish, and very hard to offend, those are pretty damn offensive comments. I know what you are reciting, and maybe it was the fact that Tyler said they were going to become a multi-million dollar power couple, maybe it was the fact Tyler was playing in Israel, but nonetheless, those comments that "He and Easy-E’s daughter need to go be jewish and take over the world together", do make you sound like an ignorant bigot. You are using a stereotype that shows the Jewish people in a negative light, and no, saying Jewish people are trying to take over the world is not a compliment. I did not see at all how what Jeremy Tyler initially said about his dreams and hopes for the future had any ties into his association with Judaism, much less the stereotype that you later used to describe your negativity towards Tyler and Eazy-E’s daughter. Plus, you spelled Eazy-E wrong, that more than likely means you have no idea how bad ass he truly was, which is sad, frankly.

    I for one think Jeremy Tyler has made a lot of bad moves, and his behavior has been very questionable, but to root against him to me is out of the question. He had so much potential in HS, and while his attitude in Israel was incredibly unprofessional, I just feel like he really did not have the guidance he needed to succeed in that environment, which is sad. He is, after all, still very much a kid, who is probably not used to getting anything other than whatever he wants. Adjusting to the pro’s in a foreign country must have been entirely confusing, and it sounded to me like he was doing it pretty much on his own. Japan of course is different, as I am sure he is treated like a king (they treat Bob Sapp like a God, and he sucks at what he does) and the competition is not nearly as formidable as that in Israel. I know that the BJ League has a number of older veteran players, but as a whole I think the players are younger, and for a big like Tyler, I think he will get by just due to his size and athleticism. I remember watching one of his games in Israel and he just looked like kind of a brat, whining and complaining, and honestly, I do not think he really had a person to listen to him, and at the same time convince himself to keep pushing on. I am pretty sure all of his teammates got sick of him, ignored him or knocked him on his ass. In Japan, their are not as many grizzled army vets that probably have kids nearly Tyler’s age that want to probably knock his teeth out. So, all I can hope is that he learned a valuable lesson and pushes on. He would have more than likely been the best Center prospect in his HS class had he stayed in school, and he has a frame and wing span that rival DeMarcus Cousins, plus he is more athletic. But, like DeMarcus, huge attitude concerns, and unlike DeMarcus, he has shown not even close to an ability to star in the pros since he finished high school.

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  • #418509
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    Tyler’s team had a pair of games over the weekend and split them with the Sendai 89ers.

    http://www.tokyoapache.com/en/apache-win-sunday-game-in-sendai/

    Here are his stats to date. I know it is in Japanese, but Tyler is number 8.

    http://www.bj-league.com/bj/Team.do

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  • #418516
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    Tyler’s team had a pair of games over the weekend and split them with the Sendai 89ers.

    http://www.tokyoapache.com/en/apache-win-sunday-game-in-sendai/

    Here are his stats to date. I know it is in Japanese, but Tyler is number 8.

    http://www.bj-league.com/bj/Team.do

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  • #418521
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    JoeWolf1

    Like I said earlier when you first posted this, I think it’s a good move for him, he seems to be getting playing time and playing efficent basketball, but he is still a ways away from being an NBA caliber player if Robert Swift and Byron Eton are the team leaders.  This league appears to have about the same level of competition as the D-League or slightly below, but again good move for him, he’s making way more money here than if he were to goto the D-League.

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  • #418528
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    JoeWolf1

    Like I said earlier when you first posted this, I think it’s a good move for him, he seems to be getting playing time and playing efficent basketball, but he is still a ways away from being an NBA caliber player if Robert Swift and Byron Eton are the team leaders.  This league appears to have about the same level of competition as the D-League or slightly below, but again good move for him, he’s making way more money here than if he were to goto the D-League.

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  • #418605
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    My bad, the second link was for the wrong team
    No Name     PTS     AVG     3P     2P     DK     FT     RBD     AST     STL     BLK     TO     PF     TF     DQ     MIN
     8 Jeremy Tyler     12     6.0     0     0     0.0     5     13     38.5     3     2     6     33.3     3     7     10     0     0     1     4     8     0           23: 20

     

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  • #418612
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    My bad, the second link was for the wrong team
    No Name     PTS     AVG     3P     2P     DK     FT     RBD     AST     STL     BLK     TO     PF     TF     DQ     MIN
     8 Jeremy Tyler     12     6.0     0     0     0.0     5     13     38.5     3     2     6     33.3     3     7     10     0     0     1     4     8     0           23: 20

     

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  • #425318
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    CaveLight
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     Check out the trailer for the documentary on Jeremy Tyler.  We have been following his life for the last three years and it has been a true roller coaster ride.  Since his controversial decision to leave high school earlier to play professional basketball overseas he has been battling corruption and immense personal obstacles on his way to the NBA.

    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cavelightfilms/my-life-chasing-the-dream

    We need your help to make this film a reality.  

    Jordan Ehrlich and Andrew Gallery 

    http://www.cavelightfilms.com

     

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  • #425333
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    CaveLight
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     Check out the trailer for the documentary on Jeremy Tyler.  We have been following his life for the last three years and it has been a true roller coaster ride.  Since his controversial decision to leave high school earlier to play professional basketball overseas he has been battling corruption and immense personal obstacles on his way to the NBA.

    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cavelightfilms/my-life-chasing-the-dream

    We need your help to make this film a reality.  

    Jordan Ehrlich and Andrew Gallery 

    http://www.cavelightfilms.com

     

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