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- Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 6:55pm #21580
sheltwon3ParticipantLebron James
Dwayne Wade
Chris Bosh
Mike Miller
Mario Chalmers
Udonis HaslemVersus
Kevin Durant
Derick Rose
Russell Westbrook
Lamar Odom
Kevin Love
Chauncey Billups0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 6:58pm #401446
llperezi do think they would take gold. But i do not think they would beat this past team usa squad. Too much depth and the heat wouldnt be able to exploit team usa’s biggest weakness which was size inside.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 6:58pm #401456
llperezi do think they would take gold. But i do not think they would beat this past team usa squad. Too much depth and the heat wouldnt be able to exploit team usa’s biggest weakness which was size inside.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:00pm #401449
knicksfan7ParticipantThey definitely wouldn’t beat Team USA, they would lose by 8-12 points because of team USA’s depth. As for the FIBA games taking gold would be very very hard, but I could see them doing it. Though I think them getting Bronze or Silver would be more realistic b/c of lack of depth.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:00pm #401458
knicksfan7ParticipantThey definitely wouldn’t beat Team USA, they would lose by 8-12 points because of team USA’s depth. As for the FIBA games taking gold would be very very hard, but I could see them doing it. Though I think them getting Bronze or Silver would be more realistic b/c of lack of depth.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:01pm #401451
sheltwon3ParticipantLLperez you are probably right but I think it is a debate worth looking into because only a few Members of the USA team shined brightly so I think would the same amount of the time Team USA would beat Miami Heat but with the Chemistry issues and the Durant having to save the day all the time, they have enough flaws that a Miami Heat team could beat them especially if they pick up Dampier.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:01pm #401461
sheltwon3ParticipantLLperez you are probably right but I think it is a debate worth looking into because only a few Members of the USA team shined brightly so I think would the same amount of the time Team USA would beat Miami Heat but with the Chemistry issues and the Durant having to save the day all the time, they have enough flaws that a Miami Heat team could beat them especially if they pick up Dampier.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:04pm #401453
knicksfan7ParticipantI don’t think Dampier would make a significant difference considering he is foul prone. Also if you have Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook in at the same time one will exploit Chalmers, and Kevin Durant will still find a way to score. Really what it comes down to is who will play better D, and my pick goes to Team USA.
The only team in the NBA that could beat USA IMO is the Lakers b/c of the size of the front court.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:04pm #401463
knicksfan7ParticipantI don’t think Dampier would make a significant difference considering he is foul prone. Also if you have Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook in at the same time one will exploit Chalmers, and Kevin Durant will still find a way to score. Really what it comes down to is who will play better D, and my pick goes to Team USA.
The only team in the NBA that could beat USA IMO is the Lakers b/c of the size of the front court.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:05pm #401454
sheltwon3ParticipantAlso depth comes into play in playing more game because in the playoffs team tend to only play 8 to 9 players. I am talking one game. You also have to realize that playing more players but smaller minutes can throw off chemistry and balance. That is why guys like Stephon Curry and some other did not play as well as they do for their teams because they did not get touches or find their rhythm. Dallas Mavericks found out the hard way when they had all that depth and it not translating into playoff wins. They had lot of talent but no chemistry.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:05pm #401465
sheltwon3ParticipantAlso depth comes into play in playing more game because in the playoffs team tend to only play 8 to 9 players. I am talking one game. You also have to realize that playing more players but smaller minutes can throw off chemistry and balance. That is why guys like Stephon Curry and some other did not play as well as they do for their teams because they did not get touches or find their rhythm. Dallas Mavericks found out the hard way when they had all that depth and it not translating into playoff wins. They had lot of talent but no chemistry.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:10pm #401457
knicksfan7ParticipantOkay 1 game, then it’s more so a tossup, but in a series I am taking Team USA.
If we take coaching staffs into effect, I think Coach K will figure out a way to control Wade and Lebron on key possessions late in the game. Never doubt great coaching.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:10pm #401467
knicksfan7ParticipantOkay 1 game, then it’s more so a tossup, but in a series I am taking Team USA.
If we take coaching staffs into effect, I think Coach K will figure out a way to control Wade and Lebron on key possessions late in the game. Never doubt great coaching.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:11pm #401459
llperezwell look at matchups:
i think the usa squad would start westbrook over rose simply becasue he coud do a better job gaurding wade and then have billups ply pg. Wade would outplay westbrook but would have a tough time becasue westbrook matches up well defensivley and then billups and rose would destroy arroyo and chalmers.
Then at sf, iggy would actuallly probably gaurd lebron. Again, big advantage miami, but iggy will make lebron earn everything. hat leaves Durant on bosh. Bosh could go to work down low, but the wings for usa could help out and disrupt things. Also, if miami is spending all their time dumping it in to bosh, that takes away from what wade and lebron are gona do. On the other end, durant would just take bsoh outside and get what shots he wanted.
Center would be lamar vs dampier or joel anthony or haslem or whoever and that would be a modest advantage for odom. Now factor in usa’s depth where they can bring in guys like gay, gordan, rose, love and chandler and i think miami would have a real hard time keeping up.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:11pm #401469
llperezwell look at matchups:
i think the usa squad would start westbrook over rose simply becasue he coud do a better job gaurding wade and then have billups ply pg. Wade would outplay westbrook but would have a tough time becasue westbrook matches up well defensivley and then billups and rose would destroy arroyo and chalmers.
Then at sf, iggy would actuallly probably gaurd lebron. Again, big advantage miami, but iggy will make lebron earn everything. hat leaves Durant on bosh. Bosh could go to work down low, but the wings for usa could help out and disrupt things. Also, if miami is spending all their time dumping it in to bosh, that takes away from what wade and lebron are gona do. On the other end, durant would just take bsoh outside and get what shots he wanted.
Center would be lamar vs dampier or joel anthony or haslem or whoever and that would be a modest advantage for odom. Now factor in usa’s depth where they can bring in guys like gay, gordan, rose, love and chandler and i think miami would have a real hard time keeping up.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:12pm #401460
sheltwon3ParticipantYou are answering your question based on Team USA getting the same amount of time to play together as a NBA team, I am saying right now and despite how talented they are, it would appear outside of Westbrook and Durant, there was not a lot of chemistry all the time. I did not get to watch the games cept for part of one but from what I read and saw they had spurt of playing together really well and other times they relied on Durant. They also played sloppy. Also they have a surplus of talent at the same positions. Their front court is good but not great. Lebron and Wade can play all 48 minutes and yeah Team USA played great defense but it was not against NBA player because most of the guys that played in the NBA got their point against team USA. I don’t see Westbrook shutting down Wade or Durant shutting down Lebron. The only guys that were top defensive players in the NBA were Westbrook, Iguadala, Odom. Team USA would sacrifice shooting with that line up including Durant to help put up points.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:12pm #401471
sheltwon3ParticipantYou are answering your question based on Team USA getting the same amount of time to play together as a NBA team, I am saying right now and despite how talented they are, it would appear outside of Westbrook and Durant, there was not a lot of chemistry all the time. I did not get to watch the games cept for part of one but from what I read and saw they had spurt of playing together really well and other times they relied on Durant. They also played sloppy. Also they have a surplus of talent at the same positions. Their front court is good but not great. Lebron and Wade can play all 48 minutes and yeah Team USA played great defense but it was not against NBA player because most of the guys that played in the NBA got their point against team USA. I don’t see Westbrook shutting down Wade or Durant shutting down Lebron. The only guys that were top defensive players in the NBA were Westbrook, Iguadala, Odom. Team USA would sacrifice shooting with that line up including Durant to help put up points.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:19pm #401462
sheltwon3ParticipantI would have it that Lebron is playing pf and Bosh Center because Team USA does not have any Centers that would give Bosh any trouble. Love and Odom are power forwards. Chandler is not much of a scorers. Lebron would work out of the High post and Bosh would work in the low post. Mike Miller would spot up on either side while Wade roamed. Chalmers would handle the ball until half court and then pass it to Lebron who could pass it out to Miller, Pass it to Wade and set a pick for him, pass it to Bosh and then spot up in case Bosh get double teamed, or he could wait and maybe pass to a cutting Chalmers who should every once in a while cut to the basket after giving Lebron the ball.
I think this Line up would be effective against Team USA and ocassionally they can bring in size like Haslem if Team USA tries to switch up their line up and throw Love or Odom out there who are both good rebounders.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 7:19pm #401473
sheltwon3ParticipantI would have it that Lebron is playing pf and Bosh Center because Team USA does not have any Centers that would give Bosh any trouble. Love and Odom are power forwards. Chandler is not much of a scorers. Lebron would work out of the High post and Bosh would work in the low post. Mike Miller would spot up on either side while Wade roamed. Chalmers would handle the ball until half court and then pass it to Lebron who could pass it out to Miller, Pass it to Wade and set a pick for him, pass it to Bosh and then spot up in case Bosh get double teamed, or he could wait and maybe pass to a cutting Chalmers who should every once in a while cut to the basket after giving Lebron the ball.
I think this Line up would be effective against Team USA and ocassionally they can bring in size like Haslem if Team USA tries to switch up their line up and throw Love or Odom out there who are both good rebounders.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:39pm #401515
hiphopismylifeParticipantI dont understand why people hit thumbs down for a guy asking a question. Stop hating it’s actually a pretty good topic
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:39pm #401524
hiphopismylifeParticipantI dont understand why people hit thumbs down for a guy asking a question. Stop hating it’s actually a pretty good topic
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/15/2010 - 3:48am #401539
kanyedabestParticipantlets get real its lebron, wade, bosh…. they can and will fu-k ppl and teams up. i hhate how ppl are saying oh i dont know how they will do, orlando may be better, la may be better… its not even close miami is gonna fu-k-in take a s-h-it on the leagues chest, i love LA but damn these guys r gonna beat the bulls win total
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/15/2010 - 3:48am #401548
kanyedabestParticipantlets get real its lebron, wade, bosh…. they can and will fu-k ppl and teams up. i hhate how ppl are saying oh i dont know how they will do, orlando may be better, la may be better… its not even close miami is gonna fu-k-in take a s-h-it on the leagues chest, i love LA but damn these guys r gonna beat the bulls win total
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/15/2010 - 4:03am #401545
PureshooterParticipantI would take team USA, but it would be pretty close. I think team USA would have a huge advantage at the point guard spot and would play incredible defense.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/15/2010 - 4:03am #401554
PureshooterParticipantI would take team USA, but it would be pretty close. I think team USA would have a huge advantage at the point guard spot and would play incredible defense.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/15/2010 - 4:36am #401559
dolla130Participantllperez i think they would start westbrook and rose at the same time this wouldnt be a fiba game with all the gay zones so that back court would be able to trump wade and arroyo more then billups and rose or billups and westbrook just because it would be easier for them guard billups in the half court
id take team usa just because of the matchups
rose – chalmers -rose or westbrook would violate chalmers and since westbrook would get duty of guarding wade so rose wouldnt have 2 so all he would focus on is offense
westbrook – wade- westbrook wont be able to stop wade but the heat would have to pick its poison have wade guard rose or have him guard westbrook
A.I-lebron just to defend lebron as much as god is willing
durant-bosh durant will destroy bosh
odom haslem and odom and haslem will be a toss up
and also team usa is a deeper team with more shooters0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/15/2010 - 4:36am #401568
dolla130Participantllperez i think they would start westbrook and rose at the same time this wouldnt be a fiba game with all the gay zones so that back court would be able to trump wade and arroyo more then billups and rose or billups and westbrook just because it would be easier for them guard billups in the half court
id take team usa just because of the matchups
rose – chalmers -rose or westbrook would violate chalmers and since westbrook would get duty of guarding wade so rose wouldnt have 2 so all he would focus on is offense
westbrook – wade- westbrook wont be able to stop wade but the heat would have to pick its poison have wade guard rose or have him guard westbrook
A.I-lebron just to defend lebron as much as god is willing
durant-bosh durant will destroy bosh
odom haslem and odom and haslem will be a toss up
and also team usa is a deeper team with more shooters0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/15/2010 - 5:43am #401569
Im Your FatherParticipantIt’s not fair to say Durant would destroy bosh. He kill him on offense yes, but he would also have no chance of defending him.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/15/2010 - 5:43am #401579
Im Your FatherParticipantIt’s not fair to say Durant would destroy bosh. He kill him on offense yes, but he would also have no chance of defending him.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/15/2010 - 5:58am #401576
doubledribblerParticipantThe way a lot of the teams played, they (MIA) would probably have taken gold, but who knows. The heat have pretty big weaknesses at pg and center that a lot of teams probably would have exploited plus their best 2 players are not good shooters. A zone could be difficult for lebron and Wade. There were times teams “slowed” Durant down with zones and he can flat out shoot and score. He’s a guy that can actually score without having to take it to the rim every play.
As far as Heat vs Team USA, team USA would win. I think the game would be closer using FIBA rules than NBA rules though. NBA rules could get nasty because Rose and Westbrook would demolish Chalmers and House. Iguadola and Granger would be far more effective too. I also think it would be much easier to defend Wade and Lebron because you could throw a lot of quality depth at them. It’s like when the Bulls used to play Shaq that would constantly rotate guys on Shaq before Rodman was there. The guys weren’t at the same level as Shaq…nowhere close actually, but they were always well rested because the minutes were spread out and it made them that much more effective.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/15/2010 - 5:58am #401587
doubledribblerParticipantThe way a lot of the teams played, they (MIA) would probably have taken gold, but who knows. The heat have pretty big weaknesses at pg and center that a lot of teams probably would have exploited plus their best 2 players are not good shooters. A zone could be difficult for lebron and Wade. There were times teams “slowed” Durant down with zones and he can flat out shoot and score. He’s a guy that can actually score without having to take it to the rim every play.
As far as Heat vs Team USA, team USA would win. I think the game would be closer using FIBA rules than NBA rules though. NBA rules could get nasty because Rose and Westbrook would demolish Chalmers and House. Iguadola and Granger would be far more effective too. I also think it would be much easier to defend Wade and Lebron because you could throw a lot of quality depth at them. It’s like when the Bulls used to play Shaq that would constantly rotate guys on Shaq before Rodman was there. The guys weren’t at the same level as Shaq…nowhere close actually, but they were always well rested because the minutes were spread out and it made them that much more effective.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/15/2010 - 7:45am #401643
sheltwon3ParticipantWith Lebron and Wade, Heat’s point guard problem is an illusion and they can play Mike Miller as a Zone buster. Also Haslem brings a lot of the same things and Kevin Love. Miami would be the better rebounding team if Team USA had that line up because Lebron, Bosh, Wade, and Haslem of the board would be a beast. I like Kevin Love as a rebounder and Westbrook and Durant are pretty solid but it would be different going against Lebron Bosh and Wade who are just as athletic and bigger than what they faced in the World Tourney. It would be a good match up and honestly I think both team have a shot at winning which is why I made this post because people were acting like Lebron sucked so I wanted people to match up both teams and really analyze as a basketball fan and someone who understands that game. I don’t believe Miami could win in a 7 game or even 3 game series unless they were just lucky because Team USA has so much depth and could wear the Heat down over 2 or 3 game but for one game. You have 2 of the top 5 players and Bosh who is arguably a top 10-15 player along with solid role players against a Team USA who has Durant who to me is top 5 player and a bunch of talented young players who may range in the 25 to 60 range.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/15/2010 - 7:45am #401652
sheltwon3ParticipantWith Lebron and Wade, Heat’s point guard problem is an illusion and they can play Mike Miller as a Zone buster. Also Haslem brings a lot of the same things and Kevin Love. Miami would be the better rebounding team if Team USA had that line up because Lebron, Bosh, Wade, and Haslem of the board would be a beast. I like Kevin Love as a rebounder and Westbrook and Durant are pretty solid but it would be different going against Lebron Bosh and Wade who are just as athletic and bigger than what they faced in the World Tourney. It would be a good match up and honestly I think both team have a shot at winning which is why I made this post because people were acting like Lebron sucked so I wanted people to match up both teams and really analyze as a basketball fan and someone who understands that game. I don’t believe Miami could win in a 7 game or even 3 game series unless they were just lucky because Team USA has so much depth and could wear the Heat down over 2 or 3 game but for one game. You have 2 of the top 5 players and Bosh who is arguably a top 10-15 player along with solid role players against a Team USA who has Durant who to me is top 5 player and a bunch of talented young players who may range in the 25 to 60 range.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/15/2010 - 10:52am #401720
Toronto16ParticipantIt would be a close game, but I think Team USA would win.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/15/2010 - 10:52am #401727
Toronto16ParticipantIt would be a close game, but I think Team USA would win.
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