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  • #21550
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    Source: (http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/news/story?id=5569189)

    WACO, Texas — Former UCLA player J’mison Morgan has been granted an NCAA waiver that will allow him to play at Baylor immediately without sitting out a season.

    Baylor coach Scott Drew said Monday that the 6-foot-10 junior center from Dallas will be eligible to play once he completes the necessary NCAA paperwork. Morgan is already enrolled in classes at Baylor and will have two seasons of eligibility remaining.

    Morgan was dismissed from UCLA’s team in March after being suspended a game for missing a team meeting and didn’t play in the Bruins’ two Pac-10 tournament games. He also missed seven games recovering from a partially torn quadriceps.

    In 40 games as a reserve his two seasons at UCLA, Morgan averaged 2.1 points and 1.1 rebounds a game.

    Morgan transferred to Baylor to be closer to his ill grandmother, who is his legal guardian.

    Baylor applied for Morgan’s waiver request following his transfer in April. He enrolled in the school’s first summer session before taking fall classes.

    The addition of Morgan could be a boost for Baylor, which lost two starting post players after making it to the NCAA South Regional final last season before a loss to eventual national champion Duke.

    Ekpe Udoh bypassed his senior season at Baylor for early entry in the NBA draft, and the 6-foot-10 power forward was the sixth overall pick by Golden State. Udoh averaged 13.9 points and 9.8 rebounds and set a Big 12 record with 133 blocked shots during his only season playing for the Bears. Josh Lomers, a 7-foot center, was a senior last season.

    Before going to UCLA, Morgan played at South Oak Cliff High in Dallas, where as a freshman (2004-05) he was a teammate of former Baylor player Kevin Rogers.

    —– I think this is an underrated acquisition. He won’t be as great a newcomer as Udoh was, but he won’t need to be for an athletic Baylor frontcourt. He gives them a starting C who has the body and athleticism to play well against Big 12 bigs. I think he’ll do what Lomers did last year, but without being as goofy and horrible. He could be a serious find if he develops into the player he has the potential to be, but for now, he gives Baylor a “set in stone” lineup with LOADS of size:

    PG- AJ Walton, 6’3 190
    SG- LaceDarius Dunn 6’4 205
    SF- Anthony Jones 6’10 200
    PF- Perry Jones 6’11 225
    C- J’Mison Morgan 6’11 275

    Rotation- C/PF Quincy Acy 6’6 235, PG/SG Stargell Love 6’1 170, SG/SF Nolan Dennis 6’6 180

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  • #400693
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    book it

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  • #400707
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    midwestbbscout
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    book it

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  • #400697
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    Demarcus Oneal
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    wow Baylor just got alot better they are a very scary team Big 12 watch out

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  • #400711
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    Demarcus Oneal
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    wow Baylor just got alot better they are a very scary team Big 12 watch out

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  • #400704
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    midwestbbscout
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    Baylor is THE team of any team west of the Mississippi….They are gonna wreck now….Texas is aight and so is K-State but its OV for the Big 12…..and Lace Dunn might have just become my favorite for POY…..that just took the heat off him big time and he can drill all day when he is actually open….all f-in day….

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  • #400719
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    Baylor is THE team of any team west of the Mississippi….They are gonna wreck now….Texas is aight and so is K-State but its OV for the Big 12…..and Lace Dunn might have just become my favorite for POY…..that just took the heat off him big time and he can drill all day when he is actually open….all f-in day….

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  • #400706
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    llperez

    im surprised you guys are so high on him. He showed nothing special in 2 years at ucla. He is big and can carve out some space, but he was never gona get more then 10-15 minutes at ucla had he stayed. Maybe he he develops some better post moves, because he is kinda slow to get easy baskets off his athleticism.

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  • #400721
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    llperez

    im surprised you guys are so high on him. He showed nothing special in 2 years at ucla. He is big and can carve out some space, but he was never gona get more then 10-15 minutes at ucla had he stayed. Maybe he he develops some better post moves, because he is kinda slow to get easy baskets off his athleticism.

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  • #400710
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    its really more of a defense and rebounding thing….Perry Jones was their only true size but he isn’t really a big defender or rebounder…..he can block shots sure but as far as being an actual post defender he would probably get pounded and more importantly get into big time foul trouble more often than not….

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  • #400724
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    its really more of a defense and rebounding thing….Perry Jones was their only true size but he isn’t really a big defender or rebounder…..he can block shots sure but as far as being an actual post defender he would probably get pounded and more importantly get into big time foul trouble more often than not….

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  • #400773
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    Yeah I don’t expect him to set the world on fire, but I do think he can chip in 8 or 9 ppg and gets about 5 boards. His size solves a BUNCH of questions about how Baylor’s frontcourt was going to play their guys. This really does make them a legit Final 4 contender now, especially if their PG situation can hold up.

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  • #400786
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    Yeah I don’t expect him to set the world on fire, but I do think he can chip in 8 or 9 ppg and gets about 5 boards. His size solves a BUNCH of questions about how Baylor’s frontcourt was going to play their guys. This really does make them a legit Final 4 contender now, especially if their PG situation can hold up.

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  • #400803
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    Have fun thinking he will reach Josh Lomers’ levels. He is a big body, nothing more. I would sooner predict a guy like Sekelja -in his second year in the US- emerge because of his skill set than someone who has shown himself to have bad hands, no skills, and limited interest in improving himself.

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  • #400817
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    Have fun thinking he will reach Josh Lomers’ levels. He is a big body, nothing more. I would sooner predict a guy like Sekelja -in his second year in the US- emerge because of his skill set than someone who has shown himself to have bad hands, no skills, and limited interest in improving himself.

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  • #400910
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    LOL alright. You act like Josh Lomers was more than a big body himself. Morgan isn’t going to set the world on fire, but he’ll basically give them the ability to play a bunch of different lineups, even when he’s in and out of the lineup. This was an underrated pickup

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  • #400925
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    LOL alright. You act like Josh Lomers was more than a big body himself. Morgan isn’t going to set the world on fire, but he’ll basically give them the ability to play a bunch of different lineups, even when he’s in and out of the lineup. This was an underrated pickup

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  • #400930
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    Lomers was a solid college player. He had the health problem (I can’t remember what it is) that limited how long he could play, but he the time he gave was quality. Nothing in the past two years would indicate any minutes J’Mison Morgan will give will be anything decent.

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  • #400945
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    Lomers was a solid college player. He had the health problem (I can’t remember what it is) that limited how long he could play, but he the time he gave was quality. Nothing in the past two years would indicate any minutes J’Mison Morgan will give will be anything decent.

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  • #400934
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    JNixon
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    That could be said for Curtis Kelly and Ekpe Udoh too though. Alot of players are unproductive and then transfer and play alright.

    Lots of players are limited playing at UCLA, some more than others due to playing time and talent discrepancy. I think Morgan will do alright for Baylor, as he gives them a defensive presence and lineup versatility. If you think Lomers was a good college player, then I bet you will think Morgan is good too by the end of the season. His role will be similar to Lomers’, except he has more natural talent and has a chance to be more productive.

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  • #400949
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    That could be said for Curtis Kelly and Ekpe Udoh too though. Alot of players are unproductive and then transfer and play alright.

    Lots of players are limited playing at UCLA, some more than others due to playing time and talent discrepancy. I think Morgan will do alright for Baylor, as he gives them a defensive presence and lineup versatility. If you think Lomers was a good college player, then I bet you will think Morgan is good too by the end of the season. His role will be similar to Lomers’, except he has more natural talent and has a chance to be more productive.

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  • #400954
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    First of all, Ekpe Udoh and Curtis Kelly sat out a year. They had a year to dedicate to personal development while practicing on the scout team.

    Second, Lomers was a good college player. Far be it from the Spurs to invite bad college players to their summer league team. Heck, he’ll probably have a nice career in Europe given that there are two games a week and it isn’t uncommon for big men to play all of 15-20 minutes per game. J’Mison Morgan went to UCLA and did nothing. He did nothing on bad UCLA teams that needed size because they were playing a 6’7 Reeves Nelson at center. Why would I assume changing teams would necessarily change the outcome? Why would a new coach look at playing Morgan over Cory Jefferson or Sekelja when another one with a good resume chose not to given a similar alternative? The only reason to think he would come in and start is the based off the regard he was held in during high school.

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  • #400969
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    First of all, Ekpe Udoh and Curtis Kelly sat out a year. They had a year to dedicate to personal development while practicing on the scout team.

    Second, Lomers was a good college player. Far be it from the Spurs to invite bad college players to their summer league team. Heck, he’ll probably have a nice career in Europe given that there are two games a week and it isn’t uncommon for big men to play all of 15-20 minutes per game. J’Mison Morgan went to UCLA and did nothing. He did nothing on bad UCLA teams that needed size because they were playing a 6’7 Reeves Nelson at center. Why would I assume changing teams would necessarily change the outcome? Why would a new coach look at playing Morgan over Cory Jefferson or Sekelja when another one with a good resume chose not to given a similar alternative? The only reason to think he would come in and start is the based off the regard he was held in during high school.

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  • #401342
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    LOL you really think it’s going to be hard to replace a guy like Josh Lomers with a guy like Morgan? Lomers basically sucked. He was a big body who fouled and only made plays that were based off sheer size, and he didn’t even really do that all that effectively for more than like 5 minute spurts. Morgan’s role will be to do the exact same thing Lomers did, except he has the upside to be even more effective. He also affords them a starting C who will give them lineup flexibility. He’s better suited for the role over Sekelja and Jefferson, and he will be the starter next year probably.

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  • #401353
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    LOL you really think it’s going to be hard to replace a guy like Josh Lomers with a guy like Morgan? Lomers basically sucked. He was a big body who fouled and only made plays that were based off sheer size, and he didn’t even really do that all that effectively for more than like 5 minute spurts. Morgan’s role will be to do the exact same thing Lomers did, except he has the upside to be even more effective. He also affords them a starting C who will give them lineup flexibility. He’s better suited for the role over Sekelja and Jefferson, and he will be the starter next year probably.

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  • #401386
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    “Lomers basically sucked. He was a big body who fouled and only made plays that were based off sheer size, and he didn’t even really do that all that effectively for more than like 5 minute spurts. Morgan’s role will be to do the exact same thing Lomers did, except he has the upside to be even more effective.”

    Yeah, there is two years of evidence at UCLA a little matter of Josh Lomers now collecting a paycheck to play basketball that laughably contradicts any point you are trying to make.

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  • #401397
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    “Lomers basically sucked. He was a big body who fouled and only made plays that were based off sheer size, and he didn’t even really do that all that effectively for more than like 5 minute spurts. Morgan’s role will be to do the exact same thing Lomers did, except he has the upside to be even more effective.”

    Yeah, there is two years of evidence at UCLA a little matter of Josh Lomers now collecting a paycheck to play basketball that laughably contradicts any point you are trying to make.

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  • #401392
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    morgan does have some upside and can most likey contribute somewhere. He got off to a horrible start partly becasue his conditioning was terrible and howland didnt give him much of a look until he got in shape. But he is stil slow and uncordinated offensively. Im sure he has learned some things at the defensive end to earn minutes, but i dont think he is the type of guy that makes a difference in final 4 predictions. I dont know much about baylor, but i can see him maybe getting 6 points and 4 rebounds and contributing right away. But he would have been the 4th best big man at ucla had he returned and nobody was really dissapointed to hear he was leaving.

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  • #401404
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    morgan does have some upside and can most likey contribute somewhere. He got off to a horrible start partly becasue his conditioning was terrible and howland didnt give him much of a look until he got in shape. But he is stil slow and uncordinated offensively. Im sure he has learned some things at the defensive end to earn minutes, but i dont think he is the type of guy that makes a difference in final 4 predictions. I dont know much about baylor, but i can see him maybe getting 6 points and 4 rebounds and contributing right away. But he would have been the 4th best big man at ucla had he returned and nobody was really dissapointed to hear he was leaving.

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  • #401411
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    Ahh, I love when BothTeamsPlayedHard and Iggy argue back & fourth.

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    Ahh, I love when BothTeamsPlayedHard and Iggy argue back & fourth.

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  • #401420
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    “but i can see him maybe getting 6 points and 4 rebounds and contributing right away”

    Guess what numbers Josh Lomers put up last year. lol. I don’t think Morgan is the next big thing, as I keep saying, but he affords Baylor alot of lineup flexibility and the body to be a defensive presence against Big 12 players.

    And just because Josh Lomers’ getting paid to play basketball doesn’t mean he’s a good player haha. Anyone who watches and understands basketball and has watched Baylor play will tell you Lomers sucks and really just plays because he’s so big and gives Baylor lineup flexibility and fouls. He basically will be getting paid to play extremely limited minutes and fould when he plays overseas. Not because he’s a good player. Because he’s not

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    “but i can see him maybe getting 6 points and 4 rebounds and contributing right away”

    Guess what numbers Josh Lomers put up last year. lol. I don’t think Morgan is the next big thing, as I keep saying, but he affords Baylor alot of lineup flexibility and the body to be a defensive presence against Big 12 players.

    And just because Josh Lomers’ getting paid to play basketball doesn’t mean he’s a good player haha. Anyone who watches and understands basketball and has watched Baylor play will tell you Lomers sucks and really just plays because he’s so big and gives Baylor lineup flexibility and fouls. He basically will be getting paid to play extremely limited minutes and fould when he plays overseas. Not because he’s a good player. Because he’s not

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  • #401565
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    So if you watch basketball, then explain those two years where Morgan could have afforded UCLA a lot of lineup flexibility and the body to be a defensive presence against Pac 10 players. And before you laugh at the numbers Lomers put up, understand they were triple that of Morgan at UCLA. Plus, Morgan has no skills to speak of and showed a poor work ethic so that clearly means he will take full advantage of a second chance. Oh but wait, he was so highly regarded coming out of high school so of course JNixon-Iggy9 thinks that player will be handed minutes and produce. Funny how all those games you watch and you still think those prep rankings mean something.

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    So if you watch basketball, then explain those two years where Morgan could have afforded UCLA a lot of lineup flexibility and the body to be a defensive presence against Pac 10 players. And before you laugh at the numbers Lomers put up, understand they were triple that of Morgan at UCLA. Plus, Morgan has no skills to speak of and showed a poor work ethic so that clearly means he will take full advantage of a second chance. Oh but wait, he was so highly regarded coming out of high school so of course JNixon-Iggy9 thinks that player will be handed minutes and produce. Funny how all those games you watch and you still think those prep rankings mean something.

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  • #401596
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    I do think HS rankings matter, IMO they do hold weight. I don’t know what that really has to do with this, but yes HS rankings do hold some weight in the expectations of prospects as they go to college. Now back to the point

    I’m not sure Lomers would’ve put up better numbers than Morgan if put in the same situation as a Sophomore. Lomers to me and most that watched Big 12 basketball was what I think Morgan will be, a big bodied defender/fouler who got limited production offensively from scrap plays, and gave lineup flexibility. Lomers’ playing overseas basketball really doesn’t mean much to me other than his team needs big who can foul and only be effective for 3-5 minute spurts. Surely they can’t expect more from him, because that’s all he’s ever been. If you think THAT is a good player, more power to you. Because that’s what Morgan will also be, in college. But we’ll see, nothing more I can say that I haven’t already said.

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  • #401607
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    I do think HS rankings matter, IMO they do hold weight. I don’t know what that really has to do with this, but yes HS rankings do hold some weight in the expectations of prospects as they go to college. Now back to the point

    I’m not sure Lomers would’ve put up better numbers than Morgan if put in the same situation as a Sophomore. Lomers to me and most that watched Big 12 basketball was what I think Morgan will be, a big bodied defender/fouler who got limited production offensively from scrap plays, and gave lineup flexibility. Lomers’ playing overseas basketball really doesn’t mean much to me other than his team needs big who can foul and only be effective for 3-5 minute spurts. Surely they can’t expect more from him, because that’s all he’s ever been. If you think THAT is a good player, more power to you. Because that’s what Morgan will also be, in college. But we’ll see, nothing more I can say that I haven’t already said.

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