Elton Brand your newest ……. jazz??

If this deal does go down, I would suggest move down from the 9th pick then.

With the 2nd pick, you could get Turner and you will already have Elton Brand. Why not down from like 9th to 16th, get the 23rd pick as well and add more players.

2nd pick- Evan Turner
16th pick- Luke Babbitt
23rd pick- Soloman Alabi

They wouldnt give up the 2nd pick in the draft for AK, Turner Favors Cousins are all to good to just pass up

No GM would ever EVER do that, and you wouldn’t either

because 2nd pick you can get turner or favors, both have star written on them and they are under rookie contracts so it isn’t that much money. They wouldnt pass up the second pick for a CHANCE.

Nobody that’s in the Top 4 trades out of it unless they’re Philly, and they’d only move down two spots and still be in the Top 4, there’s a massive talent disparity between the Top 4 and the rest of the Draft.

Wow, there is a lot of Jazz threads.

Philadelphia is desperate to unload Elton Brand, so some trade involving Brand to the Jazz is a possibility. Brand would be a good fit on the Jazz and a platoon scenario with Millsap ideal for him given his injuries. He wouldn’t have to carry the whole load at PF on the Jazz.

I don’t understand how AK and #9 = Brand, Favors and Babbitt.

I would go for that trade, but I dought that Philly would, getting Favors would be the key for me, his future looks great.
I love AK but his cortract is too big (as is Brand’s) and his play is declining. It would be almost too good to be true if Philly would agree to that trade and still allow us to keep the 9th pick. Getting Babbitt and Favors, with DWill, CJ, Mathews, Milsap, Fes, KK, Tomic would set the Jazz for years to come. Brand although his contract is terrible would be able to help Favors and the other bigs develop and then he could retire.

Why do people think Babbitt is going in the lottery? Maybe it’s just me but he seems like Troy Murphy that isn’t a good rebounder, he can dribble a bit but PF don’t much need to dribble.

middletonvb:

When did you hear about this? This rumor was on the radio via Locke over a week ago I believe. I’m curious if it still has legs or if you’re just posting about what you heard from David Locke several days ago.

babbitt is a better athlete than troy murphy and better off the dribble

He also isn’t as big or stong and doesn’t have the quickness to play good perimeter defence. If you put him at the 3 he will be playing the better athletes on a nightly basis and won’t be able to guard them, If you put him at PF he will be undersized for his entire career and that most likely won’t be a good shot blocking team. I’m not saying he doesn’t have a spot in the nba but he would need some specific thing on a team for him to be successful. I could see him doing well for the magic if he was to play PF and move Rashard Lewis to SF but then they still have the fundamental problem of facing teams that don’t need to double and can stay on the shooters in this case Babbitt being played closely by a taller/faster/stronger player.

To give up the second pick for AK and the ninth pick. I could see them moving down a couple spots (in a trade), if they had a chance to unload Brand, and that way they could still have a top five pick. The Jazz would have to put together a more attractive package. Miles might have to be tossed into the deal as well, or some future first rounders. I”m also not sure I want Brand’s horrible contract on the books for many years to come. It really ties your hands for the future (similar to how the Kirilenko deal has restricted us the last few years).

Idk if the Sixers would do this trade or not but they would think long and hard about it. Maybe AK, #9, and the 2011 from Memphis? Either way the Sixers still have to pass up ET which is steep.

what u have to realize about drafting players is that not everyone will be a great player or even a good player. so drafting babitt is a question mark but so would be drafting almost any other player out of the top 5.

Babbitt does have the quickness and length to play good perimeter defense.

He’s one of the most athletic and mobile players in the draft and he’ll be one of the most athletic and mobile players at his SF position in the NBA.

Good wingspan too.

Just because he’s white doesn’t mean he won’t be a good defender when he has the quickness, athleticism, length, commitment and work ethic to be a good defender.

You need proof that white players can defend? Kirk Hinrich, Sasha Vujacic, Goran Dragic, Matt Harpring, Andrei Kirilenko, Manu Ginobili, Pau Gasol, Andris Biedrins, Hedo Turkoglu and Chris “Birdman” Anderson have all been respectable defenders at their positions in the NBA.

I am sorry cyclo but you are completely dilusional yes some white players can defend but not the ones you mentioned. Hinrich, to an extent but he is declining, Vujacic, what are you crazy, if he can defend then why does sit in Phil Jackson’s doghouse? Dragic, no one on the suns can defend except Nash, Stoudamire, Lopez, and Dudley and all are average defenders at best. Lopez is the best out of that group. Harpring, he never plays anymore and if he does play he is declining at a much faster rate than Hinrich and AK combined. AK, good defender but he is declining quickly, Ginobli is only a good defender because of Popovich and he is declining, Gasol, finally you mention someone that can defend and is not declining, Biedrins, no one in Golden State can defend, Turkoglu, either you are crazy or you are on pot, if he can defend then why does he want out of Toronto, and why is toronto not much better defensively with him, Chris Anderson, another one that can defend. So only two of the players you mentioned can defend Gasol and Anderson.

Also if the Jazz want to do this trade then it is just showing you that the Jazz have all but forgotten what the 2011 summer could bring. SInce AK is coming off the books in 2011 the jazz can resign him for much less, maybe 5 or 6 million, and then if they end letting Boozer go this year, they have plenty of money to bring over Tomic in 2011. If they do this trade they are screwed and would never be able to bring over Tomic. Tomic has a bright future, he is compared to Pau Gasol!!!!

Just imagine this 2011 lineup
Dwill, Matthews, AK, 2010 9th pick, Tomic

Remember by 2011 the 9th pick will have improved and hopefully to the extent where he is better than Millsap which is why Millsap is not in the starting lineup. Once we bring over Tomic he will excell immediately just like AK did when he was brought over from Russia, so this is why Okur is not in the starting lineup. Only one player is declining AK and he is starting but he might be a bench player if our draft pick in 2011 is better. Remember we have the Memphis pick which could be anywhere from 10-14, if Gay leaves then it will be 1-10. The talent in 2011 is so much better then this years. Potentially it could be compared to the 2005 draft. (Dwill, Paul, Bogut, Granger, Lee, and the list goes on and on.)

Or would you rather have this line up in 2011
Dwill, Matthews, Turner(2010 2nd pick), Millsap/Brand, Okur

Good line up but do we really want yet another expensive contract who is declining as a backup. Brand will be on the books for another 3 years so you can kiss Tomic goodbye because in three years Tomic will start to decline. European players need to brought as soon as possible, not 5 years in advance. You now have 3 declining players and one is starting (Okur, AK, Brand)

I hate to break it to you middleton but we are better off with AK instead of Brand. So this trade will not be happening and there is too much of a talent difference for Philly to except. This is Turner or Favors we are talking about here, The Jazz would have to include Miles and after what he showed us in the playoffs I am not willing to give him up yet. He could very useful as a backup or a starter. I see him starting over Matthews in 2 or 3 years if he continues to improve.

The trade is definitely not going to be Memphis 2011 1st, and AK for Brand and Turner.

Trade talks have been going on with Minnesota and Philly is reportedly asking for too much.Which means that they are probally asking to trade Brand and the 2nd for Jefferson and the 4th.

If this trade happens its gonna be more like this.
UTAH RECIEVES
Brand
2nd Overall Pick

PHILLY RECIEVES
AK
9th Overall Pick
Memphis 2011 1st Rounder
Wesley Matthews

Philly is gonna be asking for aloooot

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