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- Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 1:00pm #13711

GreenLanternParticipantYes it depends on who drafts Turner, but we all know the NBA and the NFL are “copycat” leagues. Evans is a huge, physical beast at the point, and while Turner isn’t as strong, he is just as big and just as physical. Turner’s handle might be better too. If you ask 100% of the teams in the league, they would prefer every position on their team to be bigger than the other team instead of smaller. If Indiana, Philly, Charlotte, Memphis, Miami or even the Clippers get the #2 pick, Turner willl be a LOCK to be a point guard in the mold of Penny. Why? Because Tyreke Evans is the Rookie of the Year.
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JNixonParticipantEvan Turner will be a SG in the NBA….He may play spot minutes at the point, but he’s going to see the vast majority of his minutes at SG.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 1:12pm #265340
QUINCEYthis shouldnt even be a question..he will play sg
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 1:13pm #265341
QUINCEYand evans plays sg for the kings..sometimes playing poitn but mostly sg
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 1:27pm #265347

festar35ParticipantBecause he is 6’6 does that mean we can’t call him a combo guard? I see him playing minutes at PG and SG for whatever team he is drafted to.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 1:38pm #265353
QUINCEYwho ever said you cant call him a combo guard?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 2:25pm #265378

kanyedabestParticipantturner does NOT have better handles the tyreke…not even close
ET will be a 2 guard in the L
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 2:54pm #265390

BlazermannParticipanthandle to a player means alot of things he does not need the most flashey he just need to creat offense and dribble though traffic and creat for his teamates and not turn the ball over witch he can do
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 2:59pm #265392

kanyedabestParticipantHOWEVER YOu want to define it,,, he does not have better ” handles ” the tyreke…..not even close
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 3:09pm #265402

OrangeJuiceJonesParticipantWhy do people always, ALWAYS associate ball-handling ability with moves? There’s more to it than that. There’s ball protection ability (you can have all the moves in the world, but it won’t matter if you repeatedly get stripped before you get to the hoop), weak-hand dribbling, and ability to handle while being pressured. I’m not saying that Turner is a better ball-handler than Tyreke; I’m just saying that some of you guys should open up your minds a little bit.
0- Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 8:04pm #265538

kanyedabestParticipantagain i will repeat myself…..however you want to define handles or ball handling or ball protection or whatever……evan turner isnt up to tyrekes level
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- Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 3:14pm #265404

festar35ParticipantJust saying that not many people are saying he could be both. Everyone is pushing him one way or the other.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 3:19pm #265405
QUINCEYeveryone ive seen talk about him says hes gonna play some pg ande sg ..i actually havent seen anyone who thinks hes gonna strickly be a pg or sg, but maybe ive missed some post on here
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 3:29pm #265411
nateoak10ParticipantA team like INdy puts him at points, GSW at SF and the Wolves at SG. just a few examples
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 3:31pm #265414
QUINCEYall those teams lets him play some point but mostly at sg or sf..just like evans…combo
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 3:51pm #265421

DanEboyParticipantI think he will play the SG/SF position but I can see him running the team from that position someday kninda like Pippen ran the point forward. I am not comparing the two, calm down Quincey, just saying he could be that type of player.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 3:56pm #265425

sheltwon3Participantregardless of what position he is listed at because of his ablities he will run the offfense sometimes and set things up, I doubt they will have him guarding points in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 3:57pm #265427

sheltwon3ParticipantThey compare him to Roy someone who have the ball a lot in his hands and the offense runs through him even though not as much this year because they have Miller
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 4:12pm #265432

raybeasParticipantHe’ll do well on a team with two/three backup type points (hello Pacers?!), but it will be a stretch for him to be a 20/5/5 type guy with a scorer like Granger on a team.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 4:13pm #265433
BiggysmallsParticipantI think Turner will be a starting basketball player in the NBA…Who cares what position he is defined at? He’s 6’7 and will most likely guard NBA wings…but He will also spend alot of time running teams offensive sets, setting up plays, getting himself and other players open shots. You can label him as a SG, but he is essentially a PG and will probably do the same thing in the NBA. Brandon Roy is the same way, he’s labeled a SG or SF but he runs the Blazers offensive sets, he handles the ball as much as anybody…Wouldnt that make him a PG?
It doesnt matter what position he plays in the NBA…Everybody knows what he’s going to do and how he’s going to play…weather he’s labeled as a PG or a SG on the program is a pointless topic.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 4:24pm #265436

the I in winParticipantweve never seen turner play off the ball. When tyreke played off the ball he sucked, sure he play SG in Sacramento right know but he still has the ball in his hands.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 5:17pm #265481

IndianaBasketballParticipantThe comparison to Brandon Roy has been mentioned repeatedly, but this is very reminiscent to the 2006 NBA Draft. Scouts were wondering what position Roy would play in the NBA… Point guard or shooting guard? The answer is… Both. I think that’ll be the case for Turner too, though his primary position will be a shooting guard.
Regardless of what position he plays, he’ll bring a lot of versatility to whatever team drafts him. I’d love for the Pacers to get him. We’re real familar with him too, considering this is Big Ten country.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 5:19pm #265485

festar35ParticipantPacers moving into a good position to get him with yet another lose today.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 5:24pm #265489

JNixonParticipantTurner played SG last season. He’s more efficient and is best suiterd as a SG.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/12/2010 - 5:26pm #265491

IndianaBasketballParticipantYes lol
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/13/2010 - 7:16am #265581
RUDEBOYhe has point guard skills..and not doubt will play that position at times..golden state might move him to that spot.if they draft him..but trying to create plays for yourself & your teammates fulltime can be stressful..guys like wade,kobe and evans..help their teams better if they play shooting guard..the kings found that out about tyreke evans..thats why they got rid of martin…but most guys want the ball in their hands during crucial moments in a game
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/13/2010 - 11:11am #265622
QUINCEYevans plays point the way wade does from miami…not really the point guard but handles the ball alot because hes a scorer
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/13/2010 - 11:13am #265621

BasketBalAllanParticipantActually, the Kings did not get rid of Martin just to make room for Evans at SG. Let me try and clear a few things up here…
1. The Kings got rid of Martin because Martin was changing in the opposite direction of what the Kings needed, he was becoming more frustrated with the coach because he felt he was not getting enough touches, he was becoming more of an on the ball type of player, which he had not really been in past seasons, The Kings were not seeing the improvements that they wanted to see from him in terms of his passing and defense and saw that they would be able to get a great young PF, a lot of cap space and an overall better defensive team by trading him. So they did and it has actually worked out well so far.
2. Tyreke does play PG almost every game. About 3/4ths of the possessions are run through him when he is on the floor even with Beno, Tyreke will always guard the other team’s best guard, regardless of them being a PG or a SG. Beno actually is settling in to being a solid SG with a great jump shot and great passing ability and quickness. Just because Beno is shorter does not automatically make him the PG.
And I do think it will all depend on what team drafts Turner and what they see when he plays with the rest of their team, it’s way to early to call exactly what his role will be.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/13/2010 - 12:21pm #265648

MkadozaParticipantI’m pretty sure that being your teams primary ball handler and passer doesnt mean your a point guard. Evans is a two. Wade is a two. Lebron is a three. Iguodala is a 2/3. Kobe, Ginobili, J. Johnson all lead their team in assists, but play different positions. If anything, Evan Turners ability to control and distribute should make him way more attractive as a player, because it allows you to play point guards who arent good passers more.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/13/2010 - 12:36pm #265655
QUINCEYyep
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/14/2010 - 3:42pm #266187
SlimParticipantEvans is a two. Wade is a two. Lebron is a three. Iguodala is a 2/3. Kobe, Ginobili, J. Johnson all lead their team in assists, but play different positions. If anything, Evan Turners ability to control and distribute should make him way more attractive as a player, because it allows you to play point guards who arent good passers more.
Aaron Brooks shoots 7 3s per game but is a point guard no he is a shooting guard.
it depends on who you are defending & ur style of play.
are you a shooting guard if u take 14 shots a game and do most damage in transition?
no Iguodala is not a “shooting” guard. He’s a point forward. When he defends Kobe he’s a shooting guard. When he defends Lebron he’s a small forward.
On offense he’s best with the ball in his hands. Iggy is a point-forward.
Is Aaron Brooks a “distributing” point guard? no he’s a deadly undersized shooting guard
you cant label players 1,2,3
a ball player is a ball player. If you want
Kobe Bryant to be a point guard you put a better scorer next to him and make him pass the ball to him. Impossible he’s the best scorer on the planet.
It doesnt make sense.
Turner is a dsitributor if u find a good tall shooter that can make him a secondary scorer then you play Turner at the 1 to “orchestrate” the offense.
But it is easier to find a undersized shooting guard like Udrih or Steve Blake
than it is to find a tall 3pt shooting guard to pair with Turner.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/14/2010 - 3:53pm #266189
SlimParticipantOffense
Lebron is a point guardDefense
Lebron is a small forwardOffense
Mo Williams is a shooter guardDefense
Mo Williams defends the smallest playerOffense
Iguodala is the best passer but he is also the best scoring option in transition
so he plays off the ballwhy would he lead the break and pass to a smaller player on the wing? it doesnt make sense so he plays off the ball for lineup pueposes not bcuz he is not smart enough to play the position
Defense
Iguodala can defend 3 positionsOffense
Aaron Brooks is a shooter guard, 6.5 3PA enuff saidDefense
he’s 5’11 he can only defend 1 positionOffense
Turner/Evans are distributors/slashers best with ball in their handDefense
they can guard 1,2s and some 3sLabeling a player one position is not smart bcuz it can lead to some hurtful stereotypes
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/14/2010 - 3:56pm #266190
SlimParticipantWill Tyreke Evans Make Evan Turner A Point Guard In The NBA?
I do not know he has too many turnovers so I am not as high on him as the national media is
defense:
in the end it depends who you put him in the backcourt with
small guy defends 2s
big guy defends 1s
offense:
he’ll be a distributor guard a slasher like Roy, lots of turnovers, mid range specialist0 - Posted on: Mon, 03/15/2010 - 1:43am #266303

kobyzParticipantEvans play 95% of the time PG for the kings!
and i think Turner is even more PG than him, better playmaker, passer and ball handler.
i see no reason why turner will not be a full time PG in the NBA and will be one of the best.
sure if he chosen by a team that already has good PG he could play the 2 or the 3 and still will be very good but i think his best position to play is the PG, his skills and advantages will come the best at this position!0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/31/2011 - 4:15pm #596485
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Bmore_DCParticipantin all honesty they are both SG’s….the only reason Tyreke plays PG now is because they have nobody better…they are hoping that Jimmer can play point…and until Evan Turner is better than Jrue Holiday or Iggy he wont be playing much of anything
0 - Posted on: Wed, 08/31/2011 - 5:54pm #596539

Bmore_DCParticipantin all honesty they are both SG’s….the only reason Tyreke plays PG now is because they have nobody better…they are hoping that Jimmer can play point…and until Evan Turner is better than Jrue Holiday or Iggy he wont be playing much of anything
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Bmore_DCParticipantin all honesty they are both SG’s….the only reason Tyreke plays PG now is because they have nobody better…they are hoping that Jimmer can play point…and until Evan Turner is better than Jrue Holiday or Iggy he wont be playing much of anything
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Bmore_DCParticipant^^^wow i thought this was current hahahahah wtf????
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Bmore_DCParticipant^^^wow i thought this was current hahahahah wtf????
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Bmore_DCParticipant^^^wow i thought this was current hahahahah wtf????
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