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- Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 5:06am #31161
jaycee24ParticipantFinally my Pistons got the guy we need with Brandon Knight! I think he’s prolly the most sure thing in the draft. With his work ethic, at the very least he’ll be a solid starter/ scorer off the bench. We desperately needed someone that can score on their own. Now the question is where does Stuckey go? How can we dump Charlie V and Ben Gordon? Is Rip tradable? At any rate, this was definitely a step in the right direction and I commend Joe D for not trading up to grab Bismack or taking Leonard while he was there. Thus I am shown DTown love to my squad!
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 5:29am #555294
ChrischiParticipantI think the Knight+Stuckey combo should work pretty well if Knight is able to become a consistent shooter. And who knows, maybe Ben Gordon and Charlie V can be a little more like their old selves under someone is not a perfect PG but someone who has better court vision than Stuckey and Bynum.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 5:29am #555343
ChrischiParticipantI think the Knight+Stuckey combo should work pretty well if Knight is able to become a consistent shooter. And who knows, maybe Ben Gordon and Charlie V can be a little more like their old selves under someone is not a perfect PG but someone who has better court vision than Stuckey and Bynum.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 5:29am #555296
ghrghrParticipantThe Pìstons got lucky. Nobody thought Knight would drop to 8. He has the physical tools and big shot making ability that should make him a point guard you can build a winning team with(not a franchise player).
Detroit management now has to make some miracles happen to drop those huge contracts, but I don’t see that happening. Ben Gordon can create his own shot, but has had a huge drop in efficiency since coming to the Pistons. Charlie V had a good season the year before he signed with Detroit, but has always been an extremely inefficient shooter and can’t rebound. They have huge contracts untill 2012/13 with player options for 2013/14, so they are literally untradable, especially the way they are playing.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 5:29am #555345
ghrghrParticipantThe Pìstons got lucky. Nobody thought Knight would drop to 8. He has the physical tools and big shot making ability that should make him a point guard you can build a winning team with(not a franchise player).
Detroit management now has to make some miracles happen to drop those huge contracts, but I don’t see that happening. Ben Gordon can create his own shot, but has had a huge drop in efficiency since coming to the Pistons. Charlie V had a good season the year before he signed with Detroit, but has always been an extremely inefficient shooter and can’t rebound. They have huge contracts untill 2012/13 with player options for 2013/14, so they are literally untradable, especially the way they are playing.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 5:36am #555298
Malik-UniversalParticipanti think there gnna either trade rip or let a buy out happen
prince i think will walk
if they trade rip and dont get a SG in return, honestly i see stuckey at the two and either bynum or knight starting at the one
and daye being our starting 3 and singler backing him up
i think the pistons had a good draft
singler is ready to contribute right now i think
the pistons next yr may be very bad… but next yrs draft is very strong so i wont mind
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 5:36am #555347
Malik-UniversalParticipanti think there gnna either trade rip or let a buy out happen
prince i think will walk
if they trade rip and dont get a SG in return, honestly i see stuckey at the two and either bynum or knight starting at the one
and daye being our starting 3 and singler backing him up
i think the pistons had a good draft
singler is ready to contribute right now i think
the pistons next yr may be very bad… but next yrs draft is very strong so i wont mind
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 5:39am #555300
r377ParticipantEven with a stacked backcourt we just had to take Knight – I can’t beleive he fell that far.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 5:39am #555349
r377ParticipantEven with a stacked backcourt we just had to take Knight – I can’t beleive he fell that far.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 5:43am #555304
Malik-UniversalParticipantif they let go of rip and prince and a few other dudes this can be our lineup
PG-Bynum/Knight
SG-Stuckey/Gordon
SF-Daye/Charlie V (I think tmac is a FA, and wont sign)
PF-Jerebko/Maxiell (who i dont like anymore, bum)
C-Monroe/Wallace
seems like a 25 win team to me….oh well
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 5:43am #555353
Malik-UniversalParticipantif they let go of rip and prince and a few other dudes this can be our lineup
PG-Bynum/Knight
SG-Stuckey/Gordon
SF-Daye/Charlie V (I think tmac is a FA, and wont sign)
PF-Jerebko/Maxiell (who i dont like anymore, bum)
C-Monroe/Wallace
seems like a 25 win team to me….oh well
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 6:02am #555310
xavier328ParticipantPistons has to have the smallest back court in the world…lol
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 6:02am #555359
xavier328ParticipantPistons has to have the smallest back court in the world…lol
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:27am #555360
WestConfsOverratedParticipantThe Pistons don’t need to dump Ben Gordon and Charlie V, these two are proven players in the NBA and are great on offense. The Pistons likely will be getting rid of Rip and Tayshaun, leaving Ben Wallace to be the last of the veteran Pistons to retire with the franchise. Personally I like the potential combo of two scoring guards, one slashing and one shooting. The Pistons need to find some semblance of team work though which was their problem for the last couple of seasons. Let’s not underestimate the Pistons, who had an injury plagued season and a coach on his last year before being fired.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:27am #555411
WestConfsOverratedParticipantThe Pistons don’t need to dump Ben Gordon and Charlie V, these two are proven players in the NBA and are great on offense. The Pistons likely will be getting rid of Rip and Tayshaun, leaving Ben Wallace to be the last of the veteran Pistons to retire with the franchise. Personally I like the potential combo of two scoring guards, one slashing and one shooting. The Pistons need to find some semblance of team work though which was their problem for the last couple of seasons. Let’s not underestimate the Pistons, who had an injury plagued season and a coach on his last year before being fired.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:53am #555397
Malik-UniversalParticipanti think with a coach the players will appeal to
expect the pistons to be a lot more motivated
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:53am #555450
Malik-UniversalParticipanti think with a coach the players will appeal to
expect the pistons to be a lot more motivated
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:59am #555401
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant" if they let go of rip and prince and a few other dudes this can be our lineup
PG-Bynum/Knight
SG-Stuckey/Gordon
SF-Daye/Charlie V (I think tmac is a FA, and wont sign)
PF-Jerebko/Maxiell (who i dont like anymore, bum)
C-Monroe/Wallace
seems like a 25 win team to me….oh well"
If they won 30 games this year, it is hard to argue that they are going to be worse when they brought in someone who can actually run the point. Losing Prince and getting back Jerebko is at worst a small step backwards, but Prince lost interest after the trade deadline so it isn’t like they had the best Prince could offer last year. I don’t think they’ll be that far behind the pack of Atlanta, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Indiana.
PG- Knight, Stuckey, Bynum,
SG- Gordon, Stuckey (backing up both guard spots is where he always was supposed to be), White (he is not a bum just because he was hurt)
SF- Jerebko, Daye (make or break year), Singler
PF- Monroe, Villanueva, Maxiell
C- Wallace, Backup to be signed later, Macklin
The two variables that will work themselves out is what they do with Stuckey (extend, deal, or choose not to match) and who will be the other big man they bring in. I don’t think they’ll go after Big Baby, but that would give the NBA the wonderful odd front court positioning with Monroe and Villanueva being 6’11 "PFs" and Wallace and Davis being 6’6 "Cs." More likely, it will be a Collins brother, Shelden Williams, or Malik Allen. I’m sure if Portland decides to non-tender Greg Oden, Joe Dumars will be rumored to be drueling over the possibility of bringing him in (along with around 15 others), but that is a long shot.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 7:59am #555453
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant" if they let go of rip and prince and a few other dudes this can be our lineup
PG-Bynum/Knight
SG-Stuckey/Gordon
SF-Daye/Charlie V (I think tmac is a FA, and wont sign)
PF-Jerebko/Maxiell (who i dont like anymore, bum)
C-Monroe/Wallace
seems like a 25 win team to me….oh well"
If they won 30 games this year, it is hard to argue that they are going to be worse when they brought in someone who can actually run the point. Losing Prince and getting back Jerebko is at worst a small step backwards, but Prince lost interest after the trade deadline so it isn’t like they had the best Prince could offer last year. I don’t think they’ll be that far behind the pack of Atlanta, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Indiana.
PG- Knight, Stuckey, Bynum,
SG- Gordon, Stuckey (backing up both guard spots is where he always was supposed to be), White (he is not a bum just because he was hurt)
SF- Jerebko, Daye (make or break year), Singler
PF- Monroe, Villanueva, Maxiell
C- Wallace, Backup to be signed later, Macklin
The two variables that will work themselves out is what they do with Stuckey (extend, deal, or choose not to match) and who will be the other big man they bring in. I don’t think they’ll go after Big Baby, but that would give the NBA the wonderful odd front court positioning with Monroe and Villanueva being 6’11 "PFs" and Wallace and Davis being 6’6 "Cs." More likely, it will be a Collins brother, Shelden Williams, or Malik Allen. I’m sure if Portland decides to non-tender Greg Oden, Joe Dumars will be rumored to be drueling over the possibility of bringing him in (along with around 15 others), but that is a long shot.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:03am #555405
Malik-UniversalParticipantidk i feel as if losing rip and prince will decrease there win total
if they lose both of em, there gnna be even younger
and knight to me isnt a pure point, he may struggle
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:03am #555457
Malik-UniversalParticipantidk i feel as if losing rip and prince will decrease there win total
if they lose both of em, there gnna be even younger
and knight to me isnt a pure point, he may struggle
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:18am #555420
esperanzafleet69Participantwhy would you want to dump gordon… his per 36 minute numbers are on par with his career average… he just never gets minutes with rip there.. bothteamsplayedharder, how can u not like maxiell anymore??? hes the man…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:18am #555473
esperanzafleet69Participantwhy would you want to dump gordon… his per 36 minute numbers are on par with his career average… he just never gets minutes with rip there.. bothteamsplayedharder, how can u not like maxiell anymore??? hes the man…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:20am #555426
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant"idk i feel as if losing rip and prince will decrease there win total"
I thought Prince lost interest after the trade deadline, so going with a healthy Jerebko doesn’t feel like a big loss to me. I could be wrong on that one. if Detroit still has Gordon and Stuckey, where is the major loss in shooting guard production should Hamilton be dealt or released?
As for Knight being a pure point, I think he showed tremendous growth while at Kentucky. The problem is that early in the season (after Maui) he was making shots but wasn’t a great point. As the year went on, he became a much better creator, but then his shots weren’t falling. I think he will go through the ups and downs of being a young point guard, but he is such a bright player that I think he will figure out sooner rather than later (like Monroe did when he just started screening and rebounding) for how best he can help the team.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:20am #555479
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant"idk i feel as if losing rip and prince will decrease there win total"
I thought Prince lost interest after the trade deadline, so going with a healthy Jerebko doesn’t feel like a big loss to me. I could be wrong on that one. if Detroit still has Gordon and Stuckey, where is the major loss in shooting guard production should Hamilton be dealt or released?
As for Knight being a pure point, I think he showed tremendous growth while at Kentucky. The problem is that early in the season (after Maui) he was making shots but wasn’t a great point. As the year went on, he became a much better creator, but then his shots weren’t falling. I think he will go through the ups and downs of being a young point guard, but he is such a bright player that I think he will figure out sooner rather than later (like Monroe did when he just started screening and rebounding) for how best he can help the team.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:27am #555438
aamir543ParticipantThe best option in my opinion for this team is to be patient. Wait till Rip, Gordon, and Villanueva’s contracts are up, dont make any bad signings, pick well in the draft and you could build yourself a nice core with Knight and Monroe+ two more solid lottery picks.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:27am #555491
aamir543ParticipantThe best option in my opinion for this team is to be patient. Wait till Rip, Gordon, and Villanueva’s contracts are up, dont make any bad signings, pick well in the draft and you could build yourself a nice core with Knight and Monroe+ two more solid lottery picks.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:48am #555466
hooverballParticipantThe way i look at it is they will have
Stuckey/Knight/Gordon covering the 1/2
Villanueva/Daye/Jerebko covering the 3/4
and Monroe at the 5.
It may sound stupid, but alot of these players were plaing 20-25 minutes a night I would like to see what type of chemistry they develope with solid run minus Rip’s bad attitude plus a new coach. Even a couple solid moves like bringing in Kwame Brown as a backup 5 for solid D and some athleticism and size as i think Ben Wallace may retire. Bringing back McGrady (adds size at the 2 depth at the 3) who i feel played quite well last year in his transition to s upport player in limited minutes (helps the offensive flow with his basketball IQ and passing). They might surprise some people and be tougher than expected. Add another solid draft pick next year to upgrade talent/replace whoever dissappoints and they may be right in the playoff picture again. What do you think?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:48am #555519
hooverballParticipantThe way i look at it is they will have
Stuckey/Knight/Gordon covering the 1/2
Villanueva/Daye/Jerebko covering the 3/4
and Monroe at the 5.
It may sound stupid, but alot of these players were plaing 20-25 minutes a night I would like to see what type of chemistry they develope with solid run minus Rip’s bad attitude plus a new coach. Even a couple solid moves like bringing in Kwame Brown as a backup 5 for solid D and some athleticism and size as i think Ben Wallace may retire. Bringing back McGrady (adds size at the 2 depth at the 3) who i feel played quite well last year in his transition to s upport player in limited minutes (helps the offensive flow with his basketball IQ and passing). They might surprise some people and be tougher than expected. Add another solid draft pick next year to upgrade talent/replace whoever dissappoints and they may be right in the playoff picture again. What do you think?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:56am #555525
Memphis MadnessParticipantThey need to trade Rip and Prince to contenders and see what they can get. Future draft picks, cash, decent young talent, and expiring contracts would be very nice.
They have a good young core now with Greg Monroe, Brandon Knight, Jerebko, Austin Daye, and Kyle Singler with Maxiell being a pretty good role player. They should keep either Will Bynum or Rodney Stuckey but probably not both. Ben Gordon and Charlie V should be given one more chance (they are probably untradable anyway). Ben Wallace should be kept around as the elder statesman.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:56am #555472
Memphis MadnessParticipantThey need to trade Rip and Prince to contenders and see what they can get. Future draft picks, cash, decent young talent, and expiring contracts would be very nice.
They have a good young core now with Greg Monroe, Brandon Knight, Jerebko, Austin Daye, and Kyle Singler with Maxiell being a pretty good role player. They should keep either Will Bynum or Rodney Stuckey but probably not both. Ben Gordon and Charlie V should be given one more chance (they are probably untradable anyway). Ben Wallace should be kept around as the elder statesman.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 9:05am #555535
hooverballParticipantYa definately get rid of rip and prince. Open up some minutes let a new culture rise. New owner + new coach + new leadership from the players = new franchise thank goodness.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 9:05am #555482
hooverballParticipantYa definately get rid of rip and prince. Open up some minutes let a new culture rise. New owner + new coach + new leadership from the players = new franchise thank goodness.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 9:53am #555534
Kinguy11ParticipantPrince is a free agent this year so you got that wish but now they probably need to trade Stukey or Bynum for another SF so they don’t have 3 good point guards not getting good minutes.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 9:53am #555587
Kinguy11ParticipantPrince is a free agent this year so you got that wish but now they probably need to trade Stukey or Bynum for another SF so they don’t have 3 good point guards not getting good minutes.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:12pm #556081
r377ParticipantIts going to be hard to get rid of those players with bad contracts…
I think we just need to have some patience – a few years in the lottery might be just what we need. After all, 6 Eastern Conference Finals is something to be very proud of. You can’t be on top all the time, just have to enjoy the good times when they are here and the bad times make you appreciate the good times even more so…..
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2011 - 8:12pm #556023
r377ParticipantIts going to be hard to get rid of those players with bad contracts…
I think we just need to have some patience – a few years in the lottery might be just what we need. After all, 6 Eastern Conference Finals is something to be very proud of. You can’t be on top all the time, just have to enjoy the good times when they are here and the bad times make you appreciate the good times even more so…..
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