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- Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 6:54pm #49233
TomShoeParticipantWhat a dumb move by the coach right there. Lebron had an open lane to the hoop and it cost the Pacers a huge chance to steal one at home.
I’d rather have anyone other than Lebron beat me. Why?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 6:59pm #780814
MikezParticipantActually I don’t know if anyone saw it, but the Pacers took everyone out for that last play, it’s like they didn’t even try.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 6:59pm #780881
MikezParticipantActually I don’t know if anyone saw it, but the Pacers took everyone out for that last play, it’s like they didn’t even try.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 7:06pm #780824
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantAnd what if Bosh screens LeBron off ball and Hibbert has to guard LeBron at the top of the key?
He would have drove right in just like he did on Paul George.
The blame is on Paul George. He played a huge game but came up short on the defensive end in the final 2 seconds. Which is a damn shame because he played terrific A+ defense every second on the court, except the last two.
0- Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 7:16pm #780840
DolanCareParticipantThe Pacers don’t switch on everything if Hibbert was in the game. Roy protects the rim and you try to force a jumpshot. If Bosh screens off-ball, then another guard would come to help- if James dishes to a wide open shooter so be it. THERE WAS 2 SECONDS ON THE CLOCK, time would have probably expired.
0- Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 8:51pm #780870
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantIf the Pacers don’t switch on everything if Hibbert was in the game, who’s to say Bosh doesn’t screen for James off ball, George tries to fight the screen, Hibbert stays with Bosh and LeBron receives an inbound pass for an open layup again?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 8:51pm #780937
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantIf the Pacers don’t switch on everything if Hibbert was in the game, who’s to say Bosh doesn’t screen for James off ball, George tries to fight the screen, Hibbert stays with Bosh and LeBron receives an inbound pass for an open layup again?
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- Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 7:16pm #780907
DolanCareParticipantThe Pacers don’t switch on everything if Hibbert was in the game. Roy protects the rim and you try to force a jumpshot. If Bosh screens off-ball, then another guard would come to help- if James dishes to a wide open shooter so be it. THERE WAS 2 SECONDS ON THE CLOCK, time would have probably expired.
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- Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 7:06pm #780891
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantAnd what if Bosh screens LeBron off ball and Hibbert has to guard LeBron at the top of the key?
He would have drove right in just like he did on Paul George.
The blame is on Paul George. He played a huge game but came up short on the defensive end in the final 2 seconds. Which is a damn shame because he played terrific A+ defense every second on the court, except the last two.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 7:11pm #780830
Chilbert arenasParticipantThough I agree they should have kept him in I really don’t think he would have been any quicker to that side of the rim than Sam Young, it happened so fast, Paul George shouldn’t have overcommitted on the inbounds, if there’s anyone to blame it’s George for giving him that lane in the first place.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 7:11pm #780897
Chilbert arenasParticipantThough I agree they should have kept him in I really don’t think he would have been any quicker to that side of the rim than Sam Young, it happened so fast, Paul George shouldn’t have overcommitted on the inbounds, if there’s anyone to blame it’s George for giving him that lane in the first place.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 7:22pm #780828
Memphis MadnessParticipantDid they think that LeBron would miss a wide open layup at the buzzer? Do they think he is Patrick Ewing or something?
Yep. LeBron successfully pulled off the “Patrick Ewing Game Winning Layup at the Buzzer Against the Pacers In the Playoffs Play.”
That’s what makes him the greatest of our generation.0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 7:22pm #780895
Memphis MadnessParticipantDid they think that LeBron would miss a wide open layup at the buzzer? Do they think he is Patrick Ewing or something?
Yep. LeBron successfully pulled off the “Patrick Ewing Game Winning Layup at the Buzzer Against the Pacers In the Playoffs Play.”
That’s what makes him the greatest of our generation.0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 7:22pm #780836
TRC1991Participantyep. Paul George played great all game but that last play was horrific, a terrible defensive stand by George
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 7:22pm #780903
TRC1991Participantyep. Paul George played great all game but that last play was horrific, a terrible defensive stand by George
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 7:52pm #780850
Memphis MadnessParticipantFor the Pacers to win the series, I said that stealing game 1 would be their best chance. That may have cost them the series.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 7:52pm #780917
Memphis MadnessParticipantFor the Pacers to win the series, I said that stealing game 1 would be their best chance. That may have cost them the series.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 8:28pm #780864
BiggysmallsParticipantI thought this series would be Miami in 5, best case 6…but after this game I actually have a different take then most. While it was a fantastic game, I think it was probably emotionally draining for the Pacers to not come out with a win. It could really damage their chances for the rest of the series…we will find out alot about this teams mental makeup now that they are almost back against the wall already.
Taking out Hibbert makes zero sense. not doubling Lebron also makes zero sense. You have got to make a role player make a catch, and take a shot with 2 seconds to win a playoff game. Let Hibbert sit in the middle of the paint, and put a small on Bosh in case they do want to pick n roll. You hard hedge on bron with a wing like Young with Hibbert as back line guy, or double bron off the pick. If he flips it to bosh, hibbert can get out to contest, with less then a tick left and if he hits it you tip your cap.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 8:28pm #780931
BiggysmallsParticipantI thought this series would be Miami in 5, best case 6…but after this game I actually have a different take then most. While it was a fantastic game, I think it was probably emotionally draining for the Pacers to not come out with a win. It could really damage their chances for the rest of the series…we will find out alot about this teams mental makeup now that they are almost back against the wall already.
Taking out Hibbert makes zero sense. not doubling Lebron also makes zero sense. You have got to make a role player make a catch, and take a shot with 2 seconds to win a playoff game. Let Hibbert sit in the middle of the paint, and put a small on Bosh in case they do want to pick n roll. You hard hedge on bron with a wing like Young with Hibbert as back line guy, or double bron off the pick. If he flips it to bosh, hibbert can get out to contest, with less then a tick left and if he hits it you tip your cap.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 8:28pm #780866
LipstickParticipantWhat about when Hibbert was out during Game 6 vs New York?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 8:28pm #780933
LipstickParticipantWhat about when Hibbert was out during Game 6 vs New York?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 8:45pm #780868
Pistol Pete. The PelicanParticipantI actually disagree I don’t mind that Hibbert wasn’t in the game. If he would have been in he would have been on Bosh or Battier. Which means that he wouldn’t be under the goal to stop a Lebron James layup to begin with. If the ball gets inbounded to Bosh, He is the best mid-range jump shooter in the NBA, and he can pretty much do the same exact play to Hibbert that Lebron did to George.
Also I guess people are forgetting about Roy Hibberts slow foot speed and his overall clumsiness. What happens on a switch? What happens with him guarding on the perimeter. We’re talking about the Roy Hibbert who trips over his own feet at least 4 times a game.
The fault is on Paul George who overran Lebron, he was supposed to give some space so he could catch Lebron dead on, and either force a jumper, a pass or make him go through him for a tough layup, not leave Lebron half of the floor wide open, while you’re on his back side.
People are caught up in the moment of Lebron making a game winning layup, but Roy Hibbert should have been out of the game in my opinion. Paul George should have played better defense.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 8:45pm #780935
Pistol Pete. The PelicanParticipantI actually disagree I don’t mind that Hibbert wasn’t in the game. If he would have been in he would have been on Bosh or Battier. Which means that he wouldn’t be under the goal to stop a Lebron James layup to begin with. If the ball gets inbounded to Bosh, He is the best mid-range jump shooter in the NBA, and he can pretty much do the same exact play to Hibbert that Lebron did to George.
Also I guess people are forgetting about Roy Hibberts slow foot speed and his overall clumsiness. What happens on a switch? What happens with him guarding on the perimeter. We’re talking about the Roy Hibbert who trips over his own feet at least 4 times a game.
The fault is on Paul George who overran Lebron, he was supposed to give some space so he could catch Lebron dead on, and either force a jumper, a pass or make him go through him for a tough layup, not leave Lebron half of the floor wide open, while you’re on his back side.
People are caught up in the moment of Lebron making a game winning layup, but Roy Hibbert should have been out of the game in my opinion. Paul George should have played better defense.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 9:03pm #780872
GrandmamaParticipantWell, the reasoning behind taking Hibbert out is because he can’t guard Bosh on the perimeter. They had the right personnel in the game, it was just really poor defense by George on the play. You want to force Lebron to take a jump shot because that’s his weakness.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 9:03pm #780939
GrandmamaParticipantWell, the reasoning behind taking Hibbert out is because he can’t guard Bosh on the perimeter. They had the right personnel in the game, it was just really poor defense by George on the play. You want to force Lebron to take a jump shot because that’s his weakness.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 9:38pm #780880
frogmanParticipantThankyou for not ripping on Vogel like so many other people are. If there is 2 seconds on the clock it’s up to the defenders to force a contested jump shot, not allow a lay-up. Maybe Hibbert should have been in the game but it is on George
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 9:38pm #780947
frogmanParticipantThankyou for not ripping on Vogel like so many other people are. If there is 2 seconds on the clock it’s up to the defenders to force a contested jump shot, not allow a lay-up. Maybe Hibbert should have been in the game but it is on George
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 9:43pm #780878
LipstickParticipantAre Sam Young and/or Tyler Hansbrough that much better in Hibbert’s place though?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 9:43pm #780945
LipstickParticipantAre Sam Young and/or Tyler Hansbrough that much better in Hibbert’s place though?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 6:12pm #781642
BiggysmallsParticipantDon’t put Hibbert on Bosh. Put a wing like Sam young on Bosh and let Hibbert “guard” Battier.
Scenario 1- Lebron gets the ball and goes to the rim, Hibbert is there…take your chances.
Scenario 2- Bosh sets a pick for Lebron, you can switch because it is a wing on him, with Hibbert behind them in the lane.If either of these scenarios happens and a kickout to Battier happens, he makes a clean catch, clean shot and makes a shot…all in 2.2 seconds, you tip your hat and call it a day. But if you have to choose between having Lebron take a shot, or Chris Bosh/Shane Battier taking a contested J at the end of a playoff game, I’ll take the latter.
Hibbert shouldnt be guarding Bosh, people are right on that idea, but if anybody actually thinks it matters who was guarding Bosh to start because he would be taking that shot on anything other then a last second kick out is a bit delusional.
Paul George got burned, but having Hibbert allows that mistake to be potentially erased.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 6:12pm #781710
BiggysmallsParticipantDon’t put Hibbert on Bosh. Put a wing like Sam young on Bosh and let Hibbert “guard” Battier.
Scenario 1- Lebron gets the ball and goes to the rim, Hibbert is there…take your chances.
Scenario 2- Bosh sets a pick for Lebron, you can switch because it is a wing on him, with Hibbert behind them in the lane.If either of these scenarios happens and a kickout to Battier happens, he makes a clean catch, clean shot and makes a shot…all in 2.2 seconds, you tip your hat and call it a day. But if you have to choose between having Lebron take a shot, or Chris Bosh/Shane Battier taking a contested J at the end of a playoff game, I’ll take the latter.
Hibbert shouldnt be guarding Bosh, people are right on that idea, but if anybody actually thinks it matters who was guarding Bosh to start because he would be taking that shot on anything other then a last second kick out is a bit delusional.
Paul George got burned, but having Hibbert allows that mistake to be potentially erased.
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