[geothermalParticipant]

 Avery Bradley or Patrick Beverly?

-Both are quick great defenders and both are Guards on the team, not generally a typical point guard who passes and gets players often, but both are rugged and defensive guards. Avery generates more points than Patrick but Houston’s design for there offense is for Harden and Howard. They are 3point shooting also are on low, with 32.1% for Avery and 34.1% for beverly.

Current stats for 2013-2014

Avery Bradley – 15.7pts 1.6ast 1.4stl 3.6rbs 44.8% FG for 30mins

 Patrick Beverly – 9.3pts 2.6ast 1.4stl 3.9rbs 40.1% FG for 31.7mins

Omer Asik or Tiago Splitter?

Asik and Splitter are defensive centers, Limited to none existing range. Although Splitter has the advantage on learning under Tim Duncan. Asik is A little bit taller than Splitter and heavier. I wont post numbers because asik is playing limited minutes, but one thing is good about splitter is that he knows how to handle being coach

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AmiableBaller34Participant]

 Huh, those stats have to be wrong, because I don’t think Avery is scoring that much. Reguardless, I would still take Avery over Beverly just because he has an elite skill in his man to man defense. I think on a contender he would be the perfect man to come off the bench for 20 minutes a night and just make life miserable for opposing guards. Beverley is decent, and he did step up when they needed him too, but don’t think he brings as much to the table. 

Same could be said for Splitter and Asik. I like Splitter, think he’s a well rounded player, but Asik has proven to be a monster on the glass when he gets time, and his defense is under rated as well. I mean in only 18 minutes a game this year he’s averaging 7 boards off the bench. Every team needs that guy. Also I think it’s worth mentioning, that if you’re going to mention learning under Ducan, then why not mention Asik learning under Tibs? 

[AmiableBaller34Participant]

 Huh, those stats have to be wrong, because I don’t think Avery is scoring that much. Reguardless, I would still take Avery over Beverly just because he has an elite skill in his man to man defense. I think on a contender he would be the perfect man to come off the bench for 20 minutes a night and just make life miserable for opposing guards. Beverley is decent, and he did step up when they needed him too, but don’t think he brings as much to the table. 

Same could be said for Splitter and Asik. I like Splitter, think he’s a well rounded player, but Asik has proven to be a monster on the glass when he gets time, and his defense is under rated as well. I mean in only 18 minutes a game this year he’s averaging 7 boards off the bench. Every team needs that guy. Also I think it’s worth mentioning, that if you’re going to mention learning under Ducan, then why not mention Asik learning under Tibs? 

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

He’s averaging 13 PPG.

Beverley vs Bradley
I think it depends on what kind of team you have.  For the Rockets, Beverley fits perfectly because he can shoot the 3-ball and play off-ball while Harden and Parsons have the ball in their hands.  Sure his 3pt percentage is 34% but he’s been struggling every since Jeremy Lin got injured.  He should have it back to 37% when Lin gets back.

On the other hand, if perimeter spacing isn’t an issue, Bradley might be the better fit.  He’s a hard-nosed defender and probably a top-3 PG defender in the L, whereas PatBev is within the top-7.  I also think Bradley has more potential, especially if his shooting improves.

Overall:  I’d rather have PatBev.  Bradley is a better defender but PatBev isn’t that far behind.  Beverley is also a better rebounder (especially offensive) and a better passer as well as a better shooter.

 

Splitter vs Asik
This again comes down to what kind of team you have.

If you already have a defensive anchor (Duncan), then Splitter is the perfect fit because he has some moves on offense, is going to rebound decently, and can finish around the rim.  He’s more offense than defense.

If your team doesn’t have a defensive anchor, that’s when you go with Asik.  He’s a monster rebounder and does all of the dirty work, and loves it.  He can bang with any big out there and he’s one of the few centers in the NBA that you could put on top Cs and not have to double-team.  He also has a non-existent offensive game but isn’t a terrible finisher, but he does have hands of stone.  He’s all defense, little offense.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

He’s averaging 13 PPG.

Beverley vs Bradley
I think it depends on what kind of team you have.  For the Rockets, Beverley fits perfectly because he can shoot the 3-ball and play off-ball while Harden and Parsons have the ball in their hands.  Sure his 3pt percentage is 34% but he’s been struggling every since Jeremy Lin got injured.  He should have it back to 37% when Lin gets back.

On the other hand, if perimeter spacing isn’t an issue, Bradley might be the better fit.  He’s a hard-nosed defender and probably a top-3 PG defender in the L, whereas PatBev is within the top-7.  I also think Bradley has more potential, especially if his shooting improves.

Overall:  I’d rather have PatBev.  Bradley is a better defender but PatBev isn’t that far behind.  Beverley is also a better rebounder (especially offensive) and a better passer as well as a better shooter.

 

Splitter vs Asik
This again comes down to what kind of team you have.

If you already have a defensive anchor (Duncan), then Splitter is the perfect fit because he has some moves on offense, is going to rebound decently, and can finish around the rim.  He’s more offense than defense.

If your team doesn’t have a defensive anchor, that’s when you go with Asik.  He’s a monster rebounder and does all of the dirty work, and loves it.  He can bang with any big out there and he’s one of the few centers in the NBA that you could put on top Cs and not have to double-team.  He also has a non-existent offensive game but isn’t a terrible finisher, but he does have hands of stone.  He’s all defense, little offense.

[geothermalParticipant]

 sorry, i got the stats for per 36 minutes for the points of Avery, sorry again,

Great insight, i was blown out by your detail, but with the surplus of great PG? where would you rank them?, 

 

 

[geothermalParticipant]

 sorry, i got the stats for per 36 minutes for the points of Avery, sorry again,

Great insight, i was blown out by your detail, but with the surplus of great PG? where would you rank them?, 

 

 

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I think it’s tough to rank them because they’re not top-tier or even middle-tier players.  They’re specialists that would only start on a few teams.  Teams that need guys like Bradley and Beverley.  

That said, if I tried to rank them, I’d say they’re within the 25-35 range in terms of PGs.  Not exactly starters for most teams but definitely one of the best back-ups.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I think it’s tough to rank them because they’re not top-tier or even middle-tier players.  They’re specialists that would only start on a few teams.  Teams that need guys like Bradley and Beverley.  

That said, if I tried to rank them, I’d say they’re within the 25-35 range in terms of PGs.  Not exactly starters for most teams but definitely one of the best back-ups.

[geothermalParticipant]

So saying that, is Lin better than beverly?, before getting injured he was playing well, but i once read that the coach is preferring beverly,why is that?

 with a team like houston will it be just better to target a player that would be a good distributor? lets say, andre miller?

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Yes, Lin is better than Beverley but Coach McHale preferred Beverley over Lin because of fit.

Here’s the thing.  Lin is a ball-dominant scoring PG.  Harden is a ball-dominant  scoring/creating SG.  Neither are great defenders.  Patrick Beverley on the other hand, is an off-ball defensive PG.  He can play off of Harden and Howard and hit the open gaps as he knocks down threes and he’s also an excellent defender.  In a sense, Beverley and Harden complete eachother as do Lin and Beverley.  Which is why Beverley is the starter and Lin comes in with the 2nd unit and is allowed to score at will as well as do whatever he pleases.

Now I don’t think the Rockets need a good distributor, let me tell you why.  James Harden is one of the top assisting SGs in the NBA.  He is 3rd in the L in assists within SGs, behind Wade and Ellis at 5.4 APG.  Last season, he averaged 5.8, 3rd in the L again.  Jeremy Lin also manages 4.5 a game with Beverley dropping in 2.3.  This is where Parsons comes into play, Parsons is becoming a very good point-forward for the Rockets, he’s 6th in the L in assists within SFs while averaging 4.0 a game.  And with Aaron Brooks getting more burn, we’re adding another PG to the mix that in the last 5 games is averaging 4 APG. 

The Rockets are passing the ball by commitee, and this method has led us to be the best scoring team in the league so far and a close 2nd last season.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Yes, Lin is better than Beverley but Coach McHale preferred Beverley over Lin because of fit.

Here’s the thing.  Lin is a ball-dominant scoring PG.  Harden is a ball-dominant  scoring/creating SG.  Neither are great defenders.  Patrick Beverley on the other hand, is an off-ball defensive PG.  He can play off of Harden and Howard and hit the open gaps as he knocks down threes and he’s also an excellent defender.  In a sense, Beverley and Harden complete eachother as do Lin and Beverley.  Which is why Beverley is the starter and Lin comes in with the 2nd unit and is allowed to score at will as well as do whatever he pleases.

Now I don’t think the Rockets need a good distributor, let me tell you why.  James Harden is one of the top assisting SGs in the NBA.  He is 3rd in the L in assists within SGs, behind Wade and Ellis at 5.4 APG.  Last season, he averaged 5.8, 3rd in the L again.  Jeremy Lin also manages 4.5 a game with Beverley dropping in 2.3.  This is where Parsons comes into play, Parsons is becoming a very good point-forward for the Rockets, he’s 6th in the L in assists within SFs while averaging 4.0 a game.  And with Aaron Brooks getting more burn, we’re adding another PG to the mix that in the last 5 games is averaging 4 APG. 

The Rockets are passing the ball by commitee, and this method has led us to be the best scoring team in the league so far and a close 2nd last season.

[Prime TimeParticipant]

 Because both Lin and Harden need the ball in their hands to be effective. Beverley is a better shooter and can spot up for 3’s and is a good defender. He fits better with the starting line up than Lin does.

Lin is the perfect 6th man. He can come in, score some buckets, distribute, and lead the 2nd unit.

[Prime TimeParticipant]

 Because both Lin and Harden need the ball in their hands to be effective. Beverley is a better shooter and can spot up for 3’s and is a good defender. He fits better with the starting line up than Lin does.

Lin is the perfect 6th man. He can come in, score some buckets, distribute, and lead the 2nd unit.

[geothermalParticipant]

So saying that, is Lin better than beverly?, before getting injured he was playing well, but i once read that the coach is preferring beverly,why is that?

 with a team like houston will it be just better to target a player that would be a good distributor? lets say, andre miller?

[geothermalParticipant]

 its like learning from a proffesor!, you really know Rockets Basketball, Parson’s value must be high right now, hate to see him part ways with houston if the main reason would be money. Harden really is the heart of houston,

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Oh I love my Rockets lmao, I try to watch every single game.

I don’t think either the Rockets or Parsons would want to part ways.

To be honest, the heart of Houston is Parsons.  He really gives our team a whole new identity on the court and a face/personality that the fans love off the court.  He’s definitely THE fan favorite and he seems like a genuinely nice guy.

Apparently, he was the key player that helped recruit Dwight Howard.  That just shows how great his personality is.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Oh I love my Rockets lmao, I try to watch every single game.

I don’t think either the Rockets or Parsons would want to part ways.

To be honest, the heart of Houston is Parsons.  He really gives our team a whole new identity on the court and a face/personality that the fans love off the court.  He’s definitely THE fan favorite and he seems like a genuinely nice guy.

Apparently, he was the key player that helped recruit Dwight Howard.  That just shows how great his personality is.

[geothermalParticipant]

 its like learning from a proffesor!, you really know Rockets Basketball, Parson’s value must be high right now, hate to see him part ways with houston if the main reason would be money. Harden really is the heart of houston,

[geothermalParticipant]

and to think, he went as far as the second round,

[geothermalParticipant]

and to think, he went as far as the second round,

[ItsRainingNegsParticipant]

 Patrick Beverly. He’s that guy that plays 100% of the time if even if you’re jut burning time in a three on three game waiting for the rest of your friends to get there. He’s tenacious on defense and is extremely good going lateral. As much as I like Bradley’s defense I have to take PB.

 

Asik. Honestly I don’t think it’s all that much of a question but it’s not unwarranted. When Asik is getting burn I think he’s a borderline top ten center.

[ItsRainingNegsParticipant]

 Patrick Beverly. He’s that guy that plays 100% of the time if even if you’re jut burning time in a three on three game waiting for the rest of your friends to get there. He’s tenacious on defense and is extremely good going lateral. As much as I like Bradley’s defense I have to take PB.

 

Asik. Honestly I don’t think it’s all that much of a question but it’s not unwarranted. When Asik is getting burn I think he’s a borderline top ten center.

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