What should the knicks do with Kanter

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What should the knicks do with Kanter

From what I've read, Kanter is not happy with his role coming off the bench lately as he feels he should be starting. As a center, one of his biggest weaknesses is defending around the rim which he is absoluely terrible be cause he is too slow. He does put up nice numbers with rebounds and points, but he fails on the defensive end. If he is not a 6th man, I don't think he is starter material. He provides some good energy on the 2nd unit and his weaknesses can masked a little bit better. I'm hoping Michcell Robinson comes back soon and gets more minutes at center to finish out the 2nd half of the season.

So, what do we do with him? Trade him and get assets or hope he buys into his new role coming off the bench?


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The Knicks are rebuilding, and while a long shot, a pairing of Porzingis + Zion + 2019 free agent has to be the goal. Kanter's ideal role on a winning team is mauling second units. The Knicks as constructed are not a winning team. Starting Kanter and letting him accumulate stats while getting roasted in space on the pick and role will raise his trade stock and lead to more ping pong balls. I love Robinson as a prospect (#1 among rookies in BPM!) and Porzingis will probably be a center when he returns, so Kanter clearly has no future with the team. Let the man get buckets and then walk if he can't be traded.

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The Knicks are probably not

The Knicks are probably not going to offer Kanter a new deal as they will likely be chasing FAs this summer. They could see what trade value they could get for him but any contender isn't going to take on an $18 million expiring deal easily. The Knicks won't want to take back future salary either so a trade is probably unlikely.

I could well see a buyout possibly being looked at, the Knicks can save a bit of money and Kanter could take a vet minimum type deal if a contender is interested. But if he wants playing time then 10 to 15 mpg or less on a play off team is unlikely to appeal to him.

Jabari Parker has been put out of rotation by the Bulls so could a straight up trade for Kanter be an option if Chicago could make use of Kanter and the idea of playing for the Knicks could be appealing to Jabari.

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I feel his best role would be

I feel his best role would be coming off the bench & doing to 2nd units what Sabonis & Harrell have been doing all season, as well as Julius Randle at the start. Now I don't think he is as good as any of those young guys, but no reason he still can't be dominant offensively in spurts.

Now are the Knicks the team for him? Well potentially could be, but most likely not.

A team that he fits with will have their starting 4 or 5 able to play a little bit of the other spot as Kanter is purely a 5, on top of that they'll need to be good defenders given Kanters lack of ability there.

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I would put him on the

I would put him on the trading block..It'll be hard to trade him with that salary, they'll have to take back a bad contract and I don't think they'll do that.

I do think Katner can be a very good six man for several playoff teams but that salary hates the trade.

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While I certainly can

While I certainly can understand kanters frustration with his role, the Knicks really have no reason to play him more. He is an expiring contract who likely doesn’t have a future with the team, and their goals for the season are to develop their younger players and give themselves the best lottery odds. They could try to trade him, but he is not a guy who is going to be highly coveted and I doubt they will get anything really desirable in return. Imo a buyout is probably the most likely scenario.

The bottom line is that kanter is going to need to expand his game if he wants to remain a relevant player in the league. While his numbers look decent, he has too many deficiencies in his game and his skill set is not particularly valued in today’s game. Just being a low post bruiser is not going to be enough to continue earning paychecks. Take a page from guys like Nikola vucevic or even Jonas valanciunas. He needs to expand his range to 3, work on his passing and playmaking from the post and at least improve his instincts to the point that he is not a complete liability on defense. If those things don’t happen, I don’t expect his career to last much longer.

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luke kornet

luke kornet's play of late is making it hard to petition for kanter to get more minutes. the only team that is in the hunt that can send expiring contracts back to NY to balance a trade are the lakers. doubtful lebron will allow that given his history with kanter.

kanter is best suited to beat up second units. OKC seemed to utilize him the best of any team. NYC should just give him more minutes with the second unit. let him get a handful of double-doubles and then ping the market again as teams start to separate themselves in the standings.

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I agree prob best to be a

I agree prob best to be a second unit 20-26 mins sort of guy.

Last time I watched him his defense wasn't that bad. This isnt the 80s or 90s where he would be going up against Hakeem, Ewing, robinson, shaq etc. Half the shots these days are 3 pointers. Rim protectors aren't as important as they were 30 years ago.

Kanter is only 26yo but his $18mill contract might be hard to move.

Other names ive heard around the league - Dieng, Batum/Kaminsky/biyombo.

At the end of the day he is hard to move, New york are not in win now mode so don't really need to take on another bad contract...

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With all due respect, his

With all due respect, his defense and the numbers bear it. I know that defensive rating isn’t a perfect stat, but he consistently has one of the worst defensive ratings of any center year after year. It’s actually much harder for him to defend in today’s nba than it would have been in the 80s or 90s, with the emphasis on the pick and roll game and floor spacing. Guys who can’t move their feet in space are getting exposed like never before. Guys who don’t really deter shots at the rim either like kanter are borderline unplayable in today’s league. Virtually any playoff caliber team would attack him relentlessly and play him off the floor in a playoff setting.

I’m not necessarily saying kanter is a lost cause, but he is going to have to significantly adapt his game if he wants to survive in today’s league.

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boston

if im boston i wait until the trade deadline, and i offer the lowest of my projected first round picks. as good as boston is , they really get killed on the boards at time. i really think he can help us at the end of games. i know his defense is not good, but he does put forth effort. in boston i think he'll play hard. with horfords injuries, kanter can fill some of his minutes

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How?

I like Kanter for Boston adds a low post scorer we really don't have. He'd improve the team. Thing is you don't trade a first for him and you can't trade for him anyways. We don't have the salary to match up. There not trading Smart and Morris for him and the Knicks likely want cap space instead of Smart. So he's a buyout target and we have mid-level money to throw at him. So Knicks save a few million, we pay the difference and sign him. Win win.

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we have FOUR first round

we have FOUR first round picks. might as well start using some. offering the lowest pick. probably around the mid twenties , isnt going to hurt us

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How?

You get you need to match salary in trades right? Kanter is unlikely to be traded because he makes so much money. Even if we had an expiring deal that matched and that player was horrible, I still wouldn't offer a first for Kanter. He's a rental and would likely be behind both Horford and Baynes. He'd be a match up type player like Monroe last year and he got a lot of DNP in the playoffs. I'd trade a late second, nothing more, but we can't trade for him so it doesn't matter.

Just because we have four first round picks doesn't mean you just give them away! They are crazy valuable right now. A late first could get you a much better more complete player than Kanter. I'm not against trading a first for the right player. For example I'd trade Morris, Bird, and a first for Randle if the Pelicans wanted to shake things up and make a run.

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He's making too many enemies

He's making too many enemies by trash talking guys throughout the league and playing with unnecessary physicality outside of basketball plays. Needs to stay in his lane.

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I will never blame a guy for

I will never blame a guy for wanting to play and win.

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