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    steviechillz
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     Kendall Marshall- I guess this guy isn’t considered a "underrated" PG to some, but IMO people don’t give this guy enough love.  Last year he lead his UNC team to an unexpected turn around in the season.  He gave Harrison Barnes more freedom on offense and set his teammates up like a good PG should.  I’d take this guy on my team any day

    Peyton Siva- Little guy who can score in bunches.  We also saw last year that he can be a clutch player as well with his circus lay-up against West Virginia.  This guy reminds me of a more control Nate Robinson with less athleticism

    Ray Mcallum- Chose to play @ Detriot so many people haven’t seen this kid play, but he is a beast.  Watch out for this guy to possibly play his way into the late-lottery this year

    Aaron Craft- Super under-control last year for being a freshman PG who wasn’t suppose to play all that well.  Excellent at making the right pass and plays hard all the time.  This guy could lose his starting job to Shannon Scott bc of Scott’s athleticism and NBA potential.

    Maalik Wayns- The better version of Kyle Lowry? Or another PG with no jumpshot? We will see this year when he leads Villanova team desperate for offense

    Juan Fernandez- watch for him to have a breakout year. I’m sure some of you only know this name bc of his clutch shots last year during March Madness

    Lorenzo Brown- With Ryan Harrow gone, he becomes the only playmaker for NC State.  I think he could have a 16ppg 5apg 3rpg type season

    Dj Cooper- Ajunior who can fill up that stat sheet.  This guy is fun to watch

    Tony Wroten- I know this guy hasn’t played yet, but some think he is too flashy and should not play PG at all in college.  Trust me people, this guy is a PG.  And yes, he does have a swag to his game, but i think thats a good thing.  This guy had 10 assists and 16pts in 10 minutes in the Jordan Classic game.  I don’t care if it’s not a "real" game, that’s impressive.  He will learn that college bball isn’t the playground and will play more under control.  This guy has one-and-done written all over him and washington is getting a big time player.

    Keith Appling-Gonna fill Kalin Lucas’s shoes next year at State. He reminds me of Kyrie Irving, so don’t be surprised if he has a great season.

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  • #574035
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    llperez

    i think abdul gaddy of washingotn is very underrated and should come on much stronger next year if he is healthy again. Wroten will play more sg, but get minutes at both when gaddy is on the bench.

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  • #573863
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    llperez

    i think abdul gaddy of washingotn is very underrated and should come on much stronger next year if he is healthy again. Wroten will play more sg, but get minutes at both when gaddy is on the bench.

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  • #574037
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    iguapops420
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     Not too big on Craft. Most certainly can’t wait to watch the new Shanwow come in and take his spot. Shannon Scott is my favorite highschool pg with his vision,unselfnishness, and creativity.

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  • #573866
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    iguapops420
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     Not too big on Craft. Most certainly can’t wait to watch the new Shanwow come in and take his spot. Shannon Scott is my favorite highschool pg with his vision,unselfnishness, and creativity.

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  • #574043
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    JNixon
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    Look out for:

    Reggie Moore at Washington State. Athletic 6’1 guard with quickness. Played with a broken hand/wrist las year, but should be healthy in the fall.

    Dundrecous Nelson at Ole Miss. Another athletic guard. He’s rough around the edges and more of a scorer than a PG, but he should blossom by the SEC slate. He’s talented.

    Terrell Stoglin at Maryland talented player. He can score in bunches or set up guys. His potential is intriguing.

    Flip Pressley at Mizzou is also a big talent. He’s small at 5’10 160, but he has a sweet shooting stroke and he has the quickness to drive and dish or get into the paint. He’s a clever passer and good at using floaters in the lane. His quick hands make him a pest on D as a ball thief too.

    Eric Akins at Notre Dame will emerge with Ben Hansbrough gone. He’s similar to Jordan Taylor. He will have to work on finishing around the rim consistently and work on his jumper, but he’s strong and quick and will play aggressive when on the floor. Look out for him

     

     

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  • #573871
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    JNixon
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    Look out for:

    Reggie Moore at Washington State. Athletic 6’1 guard with quickness. Played with a broken hand/wrist las year, but should be healthy in the fall.

    Dundrecous Nelson at Ole Miss. Another athletic guard. He’s rough around the edges and more of a scorer than a PG, but he should blossom by the SEC slate. He’s talented.

    Terrell Stoglin at Maryland talented player. He can score in bunches or set up guys. His potential is intriguing.

    Flip Pressley at Mizzou is also a big talent. He’s small at 5’10 160, but he has a sweet shooting stroke and he has the quickness to drive and dish or get into the paint. He’s a clever passer and good at using floaters in the lane. His quick hands make him a pest on D as a ball thief too.

    Eric Akins at Notre Dame will emerge with Ben Hansbrough gone. He’s similar to Jordan Taylor. He will have to work on finishing around the rim consistently and work on his jumper, but he’s strong and quick and will play aggressive when on the floor. Look out for him

     

     

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  • #574049
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    rileymcshea3
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     I can see how you can compare Peyton Siva to Nate Robinson due to there height and athleticsm but besides that they have totally different games.Nate Robinson is more of athlete trying to shoot 3s because hes to short to do anything else .While Siva is more of a Tony Parker driver that can jump over people before they jump Siva can and he can hit the open 3 if you give him to much space ,Siva can actually run his team like a point and Nate is just looking to score and make flashy passes

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  • #573878
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    rileymcshea3
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     I can see how you can compare Peyton Siva to Nate Robinson due to there height and athleticsm but besides that they have totally different games.Nate Robinson is more of athlete trying to shoot 3s because hes to short to do anything else .While Siva is more of a Tony Parker driver that can jump over people before they jump Siva can and he can hit the open 3 if you give him to much space ,Siva can actually run his team like a point and Nate is just looking to score and make flashy passes

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  • #574051
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    scoutguru
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    When I seen this last year, I made it a priority to watch this kid. Had a solid year as a frosh and should get better as he gets more experience running the show as a point guard.

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  • #573880
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    scoutguru
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    When I seen this last year, I made it a priority to watch this kid. Had a solid year as a frosh and should get better as he gets more experience running the show as a point guard.

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  • #574053
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    larbear260
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    i would almost say wayns is overrated….but definitly McCallum, at Detroit i think he could do something along the lines of what Steph Curry did at Davidson

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  • #573882
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    larbear260
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    i would almost say wayns is overrated….but definitly McCallum, at Detroit i think he could do something along the lines of what Steph Curry did at Davidson

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  • #574065
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    ilike.panochas
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    Im a huge fan of Shabazz Napier..He is under the radar, understandably so playing behind Kemba Walker. But last season, he established himself as a lockdown defender at the PG being only a freshman, I expect big improvement and he and Lamb could possibly be the best defensive back court next season.

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    ilike.panochas
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    Im a huge fan of Shabazz Napier..He is under the radar, understandably so playing behind Kemba Walker. But last season, he established himself as a lockdown defender at the PG being only a freshman, I expect big improvement and he and Lamb could possibly be the best defensive back court next season.

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  • #574067
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    JNixon
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    Lol every time someone says anything about Pressey that exact same video is uploaded

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  • #573896
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    JNixon
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    Lol every time someone says anything about Pressey that exact same video is uploaded

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  • #574063
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    scoutguru
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    It didn’t post for w/e reason.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj5UmH5TdfI

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  • #573892
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    scoutguru
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    It didn’t post for w/e reason.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj5UmH5TdfI

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  • #574078
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    iguapops420
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     Damn. Little guys got ups.

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  • #573906
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    iguapops420
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     Damn. Little guys got ups.

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  • #574096
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    NJHooper95
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    Tyshawn Taylor and Elijah Johnson

    Tyshawn is a steady guard with decent athleticism and should be the leader for the JayHawks

    Elijah Johnson has more pro potential because of his body and elite level athleticism. I think both of these guys will have big season in the Kansas backcourt this year.

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  • #573923
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    NJHooper95
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    Tyshawn Taylor and Elijah Johnson

    Tyshawn is a steady guard with decent athleticism and should be the leader for the JayHawks

    Elijah Johnson has more pro potential because of his body and elite level athleticism. I think both of these guys will have big season in the Kansas backcourt this year.

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  • #574098
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    JNixon
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    Elijah Johnson is combo guard version of Rodney Williams. Physically gifted and a super athlete, but not a great basketball player.

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  • #573926
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    JNixon
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    Elijah Johnson is combo guard version of Rodney Williams. Physically gifted and a super athlete, but not a great basketball player.

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  • #574102
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    JNixon
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    "I can see how you can compare Peyton Siva to Nate Robinson due to there height and athleticsm but besides that they have totally different games.Nate Robinson is more of athlete trying to shoot 3s because hes to short to do anything else .While Siva is more of a Tony Parker driver that can jump over people before they jump Siva can and he can hit the open 3 if you give him to much space ,Siva can actually run his team like a point and Nate is just looking to score and make flashy passes"

    People may disagree with this, but Peyton Siva reminds me of Sebastian Telfair. He’s small as a guard, who looks good driving the lane and makes flashy plays as a scorer and playmaker. Siva plays a gambling style of D, and I don’t see him as a pure PG at the next level. Siva probably has a better, more natural jump shot than Telfair though.

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  • #573930
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    JNixon
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    "I can see how you can compare Peyton Siva to Nate Robinson due to there height and athleticsm but besides that they have totally different games.Nate Robinson is more of athlete trying to shoot 3s because hes to short to do anything else .While Siva is more of a Tony Parker driver that can jump over people before they jump Siva can and he can hit the open 3 if you give him to much space ,Siva can actually run his team like a point and Nate is just looking to score and make flashy passes"

    People may disagree with this, but Peyton Siva reminds me of Sebastian Telfair. He’s small as a guard, who looks good driving the lane and makes flashy plays as a scorer and playmaker. Siva plays a gambling style of D, and I don’t see him as a pure PG at the next level. Siva probably has a better, more natural jump shot than Telfair though.

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  • #574106
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    NJHooper95
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    Trevor Releford. Folks, this guy is a player. Quick, great handle, fearless, and can finsih in the lane. This guy will be the engine that drives a very dangerous and athletic Alabama team.This guy and this team are big-time sleepers. There is alot of talent their.

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  • #573934
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    NJHooper95
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    Trevor Releford. Folks, this guy is a player. Quick, great handle, fearless, and can finsih in the lane. This guy will be the engine that drives a very dangerous and athletic Alabama team.This guy and this team are big-time sleepers. There is alot of talent their.

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  • #574108
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    204baller
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    Myck Kabongo will suprise people, he has good height for a point guard, ultra quick and can hit the 3 as well.

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  • #573936
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    204baller
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    Myck Kabongo will suprise people, he has good height for a point guard, ultra quick and can hit the 3 as well.

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  • #574110
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    NJHooper95
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    I think Elijah will have a solid season in Lawrence. Rodney Williams is a disappointment. Tremendous athlete but hasnt shown much else. Elijah was in a crowded backcourt last season. This will be a season to determine what he is all about.

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  • #573938
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    NJHooper95
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    I think Elijah will have a solid season in Lawrence. Rodney Williams is a disappointment. Tremendous athlete but hasnt shown much else. Elijah was in a crowded backcourt last season. This will be a season to determine what he is all about.

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  • #574114
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    JNixon
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    Kansas’ PG spot wasn’t all that crowded at all last year, and he still didn’t play. I see an athlete without any great basketball skills. He’s also not a real PG.

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  • #573941
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    JNixon
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    Kansas’ PG spot wasn’t all that crowded at all last year, and he still didn’t play. I see an athlete without any great basketball skills. He’s also not a real PG.

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  • #574112
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    NJHooper95
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    I watch Telfair since he was in eight grade. He was more hype than anything. There was nothing special about him. He was really quick so were alot guards.  think Peyton is a better player. More athletic by far and better shooter. I do agree he has a alot of streetball in him, but better player than Telfair. I also agree he is not a pure point guard, but in today’s game most of the best pgs are scoring points. I.E. Rose, Westbook, Parker, Jennings, Curry, Devin Harris, etc. Very Few Paul’s, Kidd’s, William’s, Rondo’s and Nash’s in the world.

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  • #573939
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    NJHooper95
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    I watch Telfair since he was in eight grade. He was more hype than anything. There was nothing special about him. He was really quick so were alot guards.  think Peyton is a better player. More athletic by far and better shooter. I do agree he has a alot of streetball in him, but better player than Telfair. I also agree he is not a pure point guard, but in today’s game most of the best pgs are scoring points. I.E. Rose, Westbook, Parker, Jennings, Curry, Devin Harris, etc. Very Few Paul’s, Kidd’s, William’s, Rondo’s and Nash’s in the world.

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  • #574118
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    JNixon
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    Morningstar, Reed, and Selby all played almost exclusively at SG or off-guard.

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  • #573945
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    JNixon
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    Morningstar, Reed, and Selby all played almost exclusively at SG or off-guard.

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  • #574116
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    NJHooper95
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    Kansas had Josh Selby, Tyshawn Taylor, Tyrel Reed, and Brady Morningstar who all logged 20 min or more, thats pretty crowded. I agree he is not a real pg, more of a combo.

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  • #573943
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    NJHooper95
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    Kansas had Josh Selby, Tyshawn Taylor, Tyrel Reed, and Brady Morningstar who all logged 20 min or more, thats pretty crowded. I agree he is not a real pg, more of a combo.

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  • #574124
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    NJHooper95
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    But those are still backcourt mins that are taken away from Elijah. All those guys played 20 plus min so somebody was in as the proverbial point guard every now and then when Tyshawn wasnt in the game and he log 27mpg last season. Well Iggy one thing we know college doesnt have a lockout, so we actually gets to see who right. I will remind you of this during the season.

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  • #573951
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    NJHooper95
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    But those are still backcourt mins that are taken away from Elijah. All those guys played 20 plus min so somebody was in as the proverbial point guard every now and then when Tyshawn wasnt in the game and he log 27mpg last season. Well Iggy one thing we know college doesnt have a lockout, so we actually gets to see who right. I will remind you of this during the season.

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  • #573955
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    cavairo7
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    I really like Terrell Stoglin from the Terps.  Without Jordan Williams, he’s gonna have the opportunity for the offense to completely run through him.

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  • #574128
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    cavairo7
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    I really like Terrell Stoglin from the Terps.  Without Jordan Williams, he’s gonna have the opportunity for the offense to completely run through him.

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  • #573959
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    1.Damian Lilliard of Weber St.-Will be next year’s version of Norris Cole..A great shooter and penetrator…Very good 1 on 1 skills..Played great against on the jr. team that scrimmaged against TEAM USA last season..

    2.Dee Bost of Miss. St-Isnt a nba prospect, but he’s an exciting college player…

    3.David Stockton of Gonzaga-Lacks strength, but is a good shooter and did a good job of setting up people last season…

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    1.Damian Lilliard of Weber St.-Will be next year’s version of Norris Cole..A great shooter and penetrator…Very good 1 on 1 skills..Played great against on the jr. team that scrimmaged against TEAM USA last season..

    2.Dee Bost of Miss. St-Isnt a nba prospect, but he’s an exciting college player…

    3.David Stockton of Gonzaga-Lacks strength, but is a good shooter and did a good job of setting up people last season…

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  • #574005
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    I agree with the person who mentioned Ray McCallum and the one who mentioned David Stockton. Also, look out for both Jackson Aldridge, an Australian point guard on his way to Hinkle Fieldhouse to play for Brad Stevens at Butler, as well as Chrishawn Hopkins. Not sure how the minutes will shake out, but Hopkins is an explosive playmaking athlete and ALdridge is a very cerebral, under-control player with outstanding vision, touch, and basketball instincts.

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  • #574179
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    Andrew1984
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    I agree with the person who mentioned Ray McCallum and the one who mentioned David Stockton. Also, look out for both Jackson Aldridge, an Australian point guard on his way to Hinkle Fieldhouse to play for Brad Stevens at Butler, as well as Chrishawn Hopkins. Not sure how the minutes will shake out, but Hopkins is an explosive playmaking athlete and ALdridge is a very cerebral, under-control player with outstanding vision, touch, and basketball instincts.

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  • #574009
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    jaycee24
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    imma keep screamin his name to you all catch on

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    jaycee24
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    imma keep screamin his name to you all catch on

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  • #574027
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    Andrew1984
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    Also, St. Joseph’s junior Carl Jones. He averaged 17 points and shot 37 percent from 3 as a sophomore.

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  • #574201
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    Andrew1984
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    Also, St. Joseph’s junior Carl Jones. He averaged 17 points and shot 37 percent from 3 as a sophomore.

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  • #574317
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    iguapops420
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     Im  fan of MacCallum but not so sure yet if he’s an NBA guy. He needs to really blow up Steph Curry style for me to buy into him completely. Average numbers at Detroit aren’t gonna cut it. Whoever mentioned Damian Lillard, I’m on board. He’s a good shooter but I’m wondering just how badly the injury is gonna effect him this upcoming season. As a Jayhawks fan, I’m already a big fan of Taylor as he seems to me ike he’s matured a lot since his fresh year and while he’s not much of a scorer, he’s not the kinda guy who’s gonna just be a complete non threat on offense either. Floor general is what I’m honestly begining to see with this kid.

    JNixon is right about Elijah so far, with all that athleticism, there is no reason for a guy like Morningstar to be taking his minutes at either guard position. While I most certainly don’t see him as a pg by any means, he could definitely develop into a scorer off the bench for some team in a Ben Gordon type role. This is all assuming he’s been working hard in the gym during this offseason. Still, I’m a fan until he fails this year assuming he starts.

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  • #574141
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     Im  fan of MacCallum but not so sure yet if he’s an NBA guy. He needs to really blow up Steph Curry style for me to buy into him completely. Average numbers at Detroit aren’t gonna cut it. Whoever mentioned Damian Lillard, I’m on board. He’s a good shooter but I’m wondering just how badly the injury is gonna effect him this upcoming season. As a Jayhawks fan, I’m already a big fan of Taylor as he seems to me ike he’s matured a lot since his fresh year and while he’s not much of a scorer, he’s not the kinda guy who’s gonna just be a complete non threat on offense either. Floor general is what I’m honestly begining to see with this kid.

    JNixon is right about Elijah so far, with all that athleticism, there is no reason for a guy like Morningstar to be taking his minutes at either guard position. While I most certainly don’t see him as a pg by any means, he could definitely develop into a scorer off the bench for some team in a Ben Gordon type role. This is all assuming he’s been working hard in the gym during this offseason. Still, I’m a fan until he fails this year assuming he starts.

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  • #574329
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    river09
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     Jordan Taylor… Wisconsin…

    powerful PG who can hit the three and finish in traffic when necessary… may lack the "wow" factor compared to some guards but bo ryan trusts him to orchestrate his offense which says a lot of his character… can lead an offense… handle the press… makes the right pass… and if it comes down to it he can drive the lane and create his own shot and shots for others…. he’ll be the guy this year that will make wisconsin surprise everyone… again… think a stronger devin harris…

    18.1 ppg 4.1 rpg 4 apg  3.83 a/t (!!)    and shot 42.9% from 3 last year…… a little respect people… i can’t believe no one mentions him… 

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  • #574152
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    river09
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     Jordan Taylor… Wisconsin…

    powerful PG who can hit the three and finish in traffic when necessary… may lack the "wow" factor compared to some guards but bo ryan trusts him to orchestrate his offense which says a lot of his character… can lead an offense… handle the press… makes the right pass… and if it comes down to it he can drive the lane and create his own shot and shots for others…. he’ll be the guy this year that will make wisconsin surprise everyone… again… think a stronger devin harris…

    18.1 ppg 4.1 rpg 4 apg  3.83 a/t (!!)    and shot 42.9% from 3 last year…… a little respect people… i can’t believe no one mentions him… 

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  • #574347
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    JNixon
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    Jordan Taylor isn’t underrated. He was an All-American last year. That’s why he hasn’t been mentioned.

    Elijah Johnson isn’t similar to Ben Gordon at all, and I don’t see him developing in that type of role either. His production will rise next year, because he won’t have the benefit of being behind experienced guys or touted Fr., but he’s not comparable to an NBA player right now. He’s just not very good right now.There is more to basketball than size and athleticism, and right now that’s largely all Johnson has shown.

    I got -4 points for saying Morningstar, Selby, and Reed didn’t take Johnson’s time. Clearly you guys didn’t watch Kansas at all last year. And still with all those guys having little to no effect of Johnson’s time, and KU having nobody as a backup PG besides Johnson, he still didn’t produce much or play alot. It says something about just how good he really is.

     

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  • #574170
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    Jordan Taylor isn’t underrated. He was an All-American last year. That’s why he hasn’t been mentioned.

    Elijah Johnson isn’t similar to Ben Gordon at all, and I don’t see him developing in that type of role either. His production will rise next year, because he won’t have the benefit of being behind experienced guys or touted Fr., but he’s not comparable to an NBA player right now. He’s just not very good right now.There is more to basketball than size and athleticism, and right now that’s largely all Johnson has shown.

    I got -4 points for saying Morningstar, Selby, and Reed didn’t take Johnson’s time. Clearly you guys didn’t watch Kansas at all last year. And still with all those guys having little to no effect of Johnson’s time, and KU having nobody as a backup PG besides Johnson, he still didn’t produce much or play alot. It says something about just how good he really is.

     

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    • #574536
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      WizardofOz
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      @Iggy

      ThankYou! Finally someone mentions Terrell Stoglin!

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      WizardofOz
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      @Iggy

      ThankYou! Finally someone mentions Terrell Stoglin!

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  • #574635
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    river09
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    @jnixon…correction! 😛 ….  i guess saying underrated was going a little long since he is very respected in college circles… but i never hear him mentioned as a nba prospect and personally i believe he could be a very steady pg in the league…. 

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  • #574455
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    river09
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    @jnixon…correction! 😛 ….  i guess saying underrated was going a little long since he is very respected in college circles… but i never hear him mentioned as a nba prospect and personally i believe he could be a very steady pg in the league…. 

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  • #574639
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    iguapops420
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     I wasn’t really saying their games were similar, simply that a scorer role off of the bench is about as good as Johnson could hope for. He’s not reliant on the J like Gordon is. Athleticism is far stronger. Simply that role.

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  • #574459
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    iguapops420
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     I wasn’t really saying their games were similar, simply that a scorer role off of the bench is about as good as Johnson could hope for. He’s not reliant on the J like Gordon is. Athleticism is far stronger. Simply that role.

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    iguapops420
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    BTW, JNixon, I’d you got the negatives because if all of those guys were on the court together, then one of them at each time HAD to play pg. Even if they did primarily play sg or off-guard. Just meant it ws a smarter way to play having those guys for strectches at point than Johnson as a primary backup. Just not enough minutes in a game not to. But like I said before, there is no reason for a guy with his atheticism to be losing minutes to a guy like Morningstar. His jumper wasn’t strong enough to replace anyone of those guys nor did he have good enough all around game or highschool pedigree to supplant Selby. He just didn’t fit. Still, he has the potential, and to say he won’t be able to play is an insult. How many guys with far less natural gifts have been unknowns for the first couple years then out of nowhere, BOOM! Though I personally stay away from guys who fail to make rotation until older guys have passed such as Hilton Armstrong and Acie LawIV. Usually if they didn’t get minutes when there was talent around, it was for a reason. As is the case so far for Johnson.

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    BTW, JNixon, I’d you got the negatives because if all of those guys were on the court together, then one of them at each time HAD to play pg. Even if they did primarily play sg or off-guard. Just meant it ws a smarter way to play having those guys for strectches at point than Johnson as a primary backup. Just not enough minutes in a game not to. But like I said before, there is no reason for a guy with his atheticism to be losing minutes to a guy like Morningstar. His jumper wasn’t strong enough to replace anyone of those guys nor did he have good enough all around game or highschool pedigree to supplant Selby. He just didn’t fit. Still, he has the potential, and to say he won’t be able to play is an insult. How many guys with far less natural gifts have been unknowns for the first couple years then out of nowhere, BOOM! Though I personally stay away from guys who fail to make rotation until older guys have passed such as Hilton Armstrong and Acie LawIV. Usually if they didn’t get minutes when there was talent around, it was for a reason. As is the case so far for Johnson.

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  • #574475
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     The more I watch Johnson, the more I see Shannon Brown really. Low hoop IQ, questionable shot selection and a dunker first and foremost.

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  • #574655
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    iguapops420
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     The more I watch Johnson, the more I see Shannon Brown really. Low hoop IQ, questionable shot selection and a dunker first and foremost.

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  • #574477
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    "BTW, JNixon, I’d you got the negatives because if all of those guys were on the court together, then one of them at each time HAD to play pg. Even if they did primarily play sg or off-guard."

    Taylor and Johnson were the only 2 players to play any real PG time for Kansas last year. Reed, Morningstar, and Selby played off-ball last year.

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  • #574657
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    JNixon
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    "BTW, JNixon, I’d you got the negatives because if all of those guys were on the court together, then one of them at each time HAD to play pg. Even if they did primarily play sg or off-guard."

    Taylor and Johnson were the only 2 players to play any real PG time for Kansas last year. Reed, Morningstar, and Selby played off-ball last year.

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  • #574487
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    iguapops420
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     Well seeing as though Reed played 29 minutes, Morningstar 27 and Selby 20. I just don’t see hpw it’s possible that Johnson’s 14 minutes a game behind Tyshawn’s 27 is possible. But I could be mistaken and it could have to do with Selby missing the first 15 games. Still, PG is not where Johnson needs to be, like I said, I’m seeing a lot of Shanwow in his game, and that is by no means the game of a PG. In some ways, not even a 2.

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  • #574667
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     Well seeing as though Reed played 29 minutes, Morningstar 27 and Selby 20. I just don’t see hpw it’s possible that Johnson’s 14 minutes a game behind Tyshawn’s 27 is possible. But I could be mistaken and it could have to do with Selby missing the first 15 games. Still, PG is not where Johnson needs to be, like I said, I’m seeing a lot of Shanwow in his game, and that is by no means the game of a PG. In some ways, not even a 2.

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  • #574489
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    I wanna say Elijah Johnson is more than just an athlete out there on the basketball court, but I just haven’t seen much of him to disprove that point. One thing I’ll say is idk, he didn’t come off to me as being as raw as a Rodney Williams type player, who just lacks some basic basketball skills. I know being a highly touted recruit doesn’t mean anything and him playing 2 yrs already should be what we make our judgements on, but usually guards have less lee-way when being ranked so high in high school, as opposed to wings and bigs, who can get by more on physical tools at that level, thus their high rankings. What I’m saying is, the talent has to be there with this kid. This will be a big year for him coming up, not even for the nba, but just to prove he can be a productive college player, and not be a huge disappointment, relative to his hs rankings. He won’t have to worry about looking over at the coach once a t/o happens, the minutes will be there, and he’ll have to produce.

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  • #574669
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    I wanna say Elijah Johnson is more than just an athlete out there on the basketball court, but I just haven’t seen much of him to disprove that point. One thing I’ll say is idk, he didn’t come off to me as being as raw as a Rodney Williams type player, who just lacks some basic basketball skills. I know being a highly touted recruit doesn’t mean anything and him playing 2 yrs already should be what we make our judgements on, but usually guards have less lee-way when being ranked so high in high school, as opposed to wings and bigs, who can get by more on physical tools at that level, thus their high rankings. What I’m saying is, the talent has to be there with this kid. This will be a big year for him coming up, not even for the nba, but just to prove he can be a productive college player, and not be a huge disappointment, relative to his hs rankings. He won’t have to worry about looking over at the coach once a t/o happens, the minutes will be there, and he’ll have to produce.

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  • #574508
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    JNixon
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    " I just don’t see hpw it’s possible that Johnson’s 14 minutes a game behind Tyshawn’s 27 is possible."

    How?? It adds up, going over by 1 minute.

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  • #574689
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    JNixon
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    " I just don’t see hpw it’s possible that Johnson’s 14 minutes a game behind Tyshawn’s 27 is possible."

    How?? It adds up, going over by 1 minute.

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  • #574516
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    iguapops420
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    Look dude don’t bitch at me for telling u the facts of why you were more than likely given negatives. I’m talking about the fact that you managed to come up with  76 minutes for 3 guys who ONLY played the 2?

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  • #574697
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    iguapops420
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    Look dude don’t bitch at me for telling u the facts of why you were more than likely given negatives. I’m talking about the fact that you managed to come up with  76 minutes for 3 guys who ONLY played the 2?

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  • #574521
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    JNixon
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    Kansas played 3 guards too at times. That’s why I said SG and off-guard.

    There were plenty of times they played Taylor, Reed and Morningstar on the floor at the same time. Matter of fact, that was their starting backcourt lineup by the conference slate. It’s not fact. The fact is that 27 mpg and 14 mpg, adds up. Taylor and Johnson’s minutes at PG add up. Unless 27 +14 doesn’t =41, which is merely 1 extra minute. I know, I watched Kansas a bunch last year. They are my favorite teams rival school. Selby, Reed and Morningstar didn’t play PG.

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  • #574701
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    JNixon
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    Kansas played 3 guards too at times. That’s why I said SG and off-guard.

    There were plenty of times they played Taylor, Reed and Morningstar on the floor at the same time. Matter of fact, that was their starting backcourt lineup by the conference slate. It’s not fact. The fact is that 27 mpg and 14 mpg, adds up. Taylor and Johnson’s minutes at PG add up. Unless 27 +14 doesn’t =41, which is merely 1 extra minute. I know, I watched Kansas a bunch last year. They are my favorite teams rival school. Selby, Reed and Morningstar didn’t play PG.

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  • #574537
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    He is one of the more charismatic young players.

    He already has the pedigree coming in from Oak Hill. (Nolan Smith, Ty Lawson, Brandon Jennings).

    He already has the high school accolades. (McDonalds AA, Team USA  under 16 and under 17 Gold medals).

    Now is he going to be coach by the best (Coach K).

    He will be the best point guard in college by his Junior season.

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  • #574717
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    Johnny Chill

    He is one of the more charismatic young players.

    He already has the pedigree coming in from Oak Hill. (Nolan Smith, Ty Lawson, Brandon Jennings).

    He already has the high school accolades. (McDonalds AA, Team USA  under 16 and under 17 Gold medals).

    Now is he going to be coach by the best (Coach K).

    He will be the best point guard in college by his Junior season.

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    providencefriars1
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    Just to throw out a couple more names:

    I dont think these guys will be good NBA guys but they are good college players who might get some second round looks. 

    Scoop Jardine

    Erving Walker

    Marquise Carter

    Jio Fontan

    Gerald Robinson

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    providencefriars1
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    Just to throw out a couple more names:

    I dont think these guys will be good NBA guys but they are good college players who might get some second round looks. 

    Scoop Jardine

    Erving Walker

    Marquise Carter

    Jio Fontan

    Gerald Robinson

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