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- Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 7:56am #60457
holefillers1ParticipantI have seen enough of this kid to know I’ve seen enough. No way he should have declared. He is an undersized four, too slow to gaurd the three. Even with the 7’4 ws he doesn’t look to have an advantage on the defensive end. I see him getting pushed out of the block and having to settle for mid range J’s on the other end. Anyone believe he will thrive in the NBA as an offensive threat, maybe like a Tobias Harris. Or maybe he will be a plus defender and hustle guy. If you are on board withTrey Lyles in the top ten then please curse me out below.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 8:22am #992016
ChewyParticipanta huge believer in Lyles. I agree with you that his future is not at the 3. His future is as a stretch 4. He had trouble staying in front of college small forwards, the only reason he didn’t get beat is because of his superior size and the fact that he had two 7 footers behind him protecting the rim. He will not be able to guard the top small forwards in the NBA.
However, he already has much better handles than most of the players will the title of "stretch 4." He will be able to be a better playmaker at the 4 than most power forwards. I think his rebounding will be fine, nothing special, but fine. It will take him anywhere from half a year to two years to get a knockdown NBA 3 point shot, but when he does, he will become a special player in this league.
I don’t think he will be anywhere close to the running for ROY, but in 4 years we will be talking about him being a steal in this draft.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 8:22am #991875
ChewyParticipanta huge believer in Lyles. I agree with you that his future is not at the 3. His future is as a stretch 4. He had trouble staying in front of college small forwards, the only reason he didn’t get beat is because of his superior size and the fact that he had two 7 footers behind him protecting the rim. He will not be able to guard the top small forwards in the NBA.
However, he already has much better handles than most of the players will the title of "stretch 4." He will be able to be a better playmaker at the 4 than most power forwards. I think his rebounding will be fine, nothing special, but fine. It will take him anywhere from half a year to two years to get a knockdown NBA 3 point shot, but when he does, he will become a special player in this league.
I don’t think he will be anywhere close to the running for ROY, but in 4 years we will be talking about him being a steal in this draft.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 8:24am #992021
BiggysmallsParticipantWe just saw a team in the NBA finals that ran out either Harrison Barnes or Draymond Green at the 4 spot and in some cases Green played the 5.
There aren’t that many 6’10 260 PFs anymore. Lyles will be fine.
I think he’ll at least be as productive as Markieff Morris.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 8:24am #991878
BiggysmallsParticipantWe just saw a team in the NBA finals that ran out either Harrison Barnes or Draymond Green at the 4 spot and in some cases Green played the 5.
There aren’t that many 6’10 260 PFs anymore. Lyles will be fine.
I think he’ll at least be as productive as Markieff Morris.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 8:48am #992031
ChicagoCaseyParticipantUndersized? Since when is being 6’10" 240 undersized LOL
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 8:48am #991889
ChicagoCaseyParticipantUndersized? Since when is being 6’10" 240 undersized LOL
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 8:59am #992037
raptors15ParticipantUndersized no,not in height or length. Top ten talent, once he gets his body right and will shine once he gets extended minutes
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 8:59am #991895
raptors15ParticipantUndersized no,not in height or length. Top ten talent, once he gets his body right and will shine once he gets extended minutes
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 9:13am #992039
kdtriv01ParticipantThey came away from UK practices surprised at how good he was. Some reports said he was as skilled as Towns. He, unfortunately had to play out of position.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 9:13am #991897
kdtriv01ParticipantThey came away from UK practices surprised at how good he was. Some reports said he was as skilled as Towns. He, unfortunately had to play out of position.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 9:14am #992041
mamadouParticipantQuite a wildcard, he could be the starter alongside drummond…or valanciunas.
Biggest range of the 1st round IMO.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 9:14am #991899
mamadouParticipantQuite a wildcard, he could be the starter alongside drummond…or valanciunas.
Biggest range of the 1st round IMO.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 9:40am #992053
kobyzParticipantWildcard indeed, the hardest player trying to project, somtimes i think his game too underwhelm and lack flashiness being lottery pick, other times I’m thinking he could be special and miss match against oposite fours with his nice basketball body and nice foundation of skills, i just didn’t see enough of him and doesn’t know how much tough and competitive he is..,
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 9:40am #991910
kobyzParticipantWildcard indeed, the hardest player trying to project, somtimes i think his game too underwhelm and lack flashiness being lottery pick, other times I’m thinking he could be special and miss match against oposite fours with his nice basketball body and nice foundation of skills, i just didn’t see enough of him and doesn’t know how much tough and competitive he is..,
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 12:57pm #992009
Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipantI like his versatility and feel for the game. Hes not really a stretch 4 right now but has the potential to develop into one. I don’t really put too much stock into his play at Kentucky this year as he was played out of position a lot. He has decent post moves and finishes well around the basket. He makes good reads as the screener on the pick and roll and has a good stroke out to about 17 feet. I think he could work on extending his range a little more and he’ll probably never be a great defender but I see him as a solid NBA player. Where he gets drafted depends on team needs and who’s available. I think Detroit will strongly consider him at 8 and Indiana at 11.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 12:57pm #992150
Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipantI like his versatility and feel for the game. Hes not really a stretch 4 right now but has the potential to develop into one. I don’t really put too much stock into his play at Kentucky this year as he was played out of position a lot. He has decent post moves and finishes well around the basket. He makes good reads as the screener on the pick and roll and has a good stroke out to about 17 feet. I think he could work on extending his range a little more and he’ll probably never be a great defender but I see him as a solid NBA player. Where he gets drafted depends on team needs and who’s available. I think Detroit will strongly consider him at 8 and Indiana at 11.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 5:10pm #992065
bdoody42ParticipantLyle has star/bust written all over him. I think it really depends on what team he lands with and the coaching staff. His potential is as a stretch four.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 5:10pm #992207
bdoody42ParticipantLyle has star/bust written all over him. I think it really depends on what team he lands with and the coaching staff. His potential is as a stretch four.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 5:33pm #992067
CoachWyersParticipantI think Lyles is a guy that will be a solid complimentary starter for his career and maybe in his prime could sneak onto an all star team or two, but is best served as your 3rd/4th best player on your team. He has a nice skill set for todays game as a stretch 4 with his ability to face up and should be able to help a team run their offense because he makes smart basketball plays and cuts, is willing to set screens to get his teammates open, and is a good passer for his size. I don’t believe the hype that NY will take him at 4 if they are so in love with him as is being said I think they would trade back for him, but I could see him in play with Detroit, Phoenix, Utah, and Indiana.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 5:33pm #992209
CoachWyersParticipantI think Lyles is a guy that will be a solid complimentary starter for his career and maybe in his prime could sneak onto an all star team or two, but is best served as your 3rd/4th best player on your team. He has a nice skill set for todays game as a stretch 4 with his ability to face up and should be able to help a team run their offense because he makes smart basketball plays and cuts, is willing to set screens to get his teammates open, and is a good passer for his size. I don’t believe the hype that NY will take him at 4 if they are so in love with him as is being said I think they would trade back for him, but I could see him in play with Detroit, Phoenix, Utah, and Indiana.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 7:13pm #992103
Andrew1984ParticipantHe just doesn’t have any defining, signature characteristics that will set him apart from being average.
He’s not particularly explosive, he’s not a great ball-handler, he’s not a great shooter, he’s not a great rebounder, he’s not especially scrappy or tenacious, he doesn’t have great vision, he’s not a great passer…he’s just ok. He looks like three or four guys that are the 8th, 9th, and 10th man on every NBA team.
He’s a JAG. I’m fine with taking him 10-20 or so, but if a GM drafts him between 4 and 8 or 9 or so, he will regret it.
0- Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 7:40pm #992105
ChoppyParticipantAs a prospect, I don’t have a problem with Lyles. He should have a long career as a stretch 4. My problem is only with NBADraft.net who keeps mocking him at 8. No way he goes to Detroit. If he could play the 3, maybe, but Detroit fans well know what putting a 4 at the 3 spot can do for your team.
Aran, PLEASE stop putting Lyles at 8!!!
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 7:40pm #992247
ChoppyParticipantAs a prospect, I don’t have a problem with Lyles. He should have a long career as a stretch 4. My problem is only with NBADraft.net who keeps mocking him at 8. No way he goes to Detroit. If he could play the 3, maybe, but Detroit fans well know what putting a 4 at the 3 spot can do for your team.
Aran, PLEASE stop putting Lyles at 8!!!
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 7:13pm #992245
Andrew1984ParticipantHe just doesn’t have any defining, signature characteristics that will set him apart from being average.
He’s not particularly explosive, he’s not a great ball-handler, he’s not a great shooter, he’s not a great rebounder, he’s not especially scrappy or tenacious, he doesn’t have great vision, he’s not a great passer…he’s just ok. He looks like three or four guys that are the 8th, 9th, and 10th man on every NBA team.
He’s a JAG. I’m fine with taking him 10-20 or so, but if a GM drafts him between 4 and 8 or 9 or so, he will regret it.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/23/2015 - 8:18am #1009421
NBAjunkie81ParticipantIf he were at another school he would have been a star & a lottery pick… He has excellent size for a 4, he can shot well to about 20 feet & he can put the ball on the floor & get to the rim… He’s not a star NBA player but he’s a solid starter in his mid 20’s… Very nice player & a good get… The NBA Draft produces VERY few starters & 1 to 3 future stars each year…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/23/2015 - 8:18am #1009283
NBAjunkie81ParticipantIf he were at another school he would have been a star & a lottery pick… He has excellent size for a 4, he can shot well to about 20 feet & he can put the ball on the floor & get to the rim… He’s not a star NBA player but he’s a solid starter in his mid 20’s… Very nice player & a good get… The NBA Draft produces VERY few starters & 1 to 3 future stars each year…
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