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  • #369200
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    417basketballfan
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     Who is the top NBA player? Here’s a list of the top 30 players. Make yours as well.

    Kawhi 

    LeBron

    Kd

    Freak

    Harden

    Curry

    Jokic

    Embiid

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    10 klay

    Butler

    Kyrie 

    Dame

    westbrook

    Pg 13

    Oladipo

    Aldridge 

    Griffin

    Gobert

    20 simmons 

    Porzingis

    Towns

    Fox

    Middleton

    Beal

    Lowry

    Draymond

    Cj

    Horford

    30 Conley

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1133421
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    OhCanada-
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    Nice topic. Be interesting to see how many people pick Durant and how many pick Leonard. 

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    • #1133427
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      OhCanada-
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      3.Lebron
      4.Curry
      5. Harden
      6. Davis
      7. Westbrook
      8. Lilliard
      9. Jokic
      10.Embiid

      I’ll give my 1 and 2 after the finals.

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      • #1133438
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        celtics1982
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         Giannis, Durant and Leonard have to be top ten players right?

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        • #1133490
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          OhCanada-
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           Ha good call. Id put Giannis behind Harden. Kawhi and Durant are 1 and 2 but I cant decide how Id order them right now.

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  • #1133424
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    RUDEBOY-
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     1.Lebron 2. KD 3. Curry 4. Kawhi 5. Greek Freak 6. Embiid 7. Harden 8.Westbrook 9. Anthony Davis 9. Doncic 10. Kyrie 11. PG 12. Jokic 13.Townes 14. Simmons 15. Lilliard 

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  • #1133425
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    CoachWyers
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     Steph Curry is my vote face of the GS dynasty last 5 years.  League is def going to be Giannis though for a long time.

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  • #1133426
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    BlueRivers25
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     Zion is already in the top 30. 

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  • #1133428
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    JDB12
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     I don’t think there is a player that you can say is head-and-shoulders above anyone else anymore. Between your top 6 and probably PG13, I think there were stretches this season where each one of those guys showed why they could be considered the best player in the world. And no one played absolutely out of their mind on a consistent enough basis to where you would say they are the best player in the world. Harden had that wild offensive run. But it’s hard to say he’s the best in the world because of his poor defensive effort, and if any of those other guys played in the system and style he did, they would also be averaging 35 per game. If we’re including the post season, I think Kawhi, Curry, and Jokic increased their stock a ton, while Giannis and Harden stayed neutral, and Embiid, Russ and PG13 didn’t do themselves any favors in the playoffs. And of course, LeBron not being able to lead the Lakers to a playoff spot hurts him, and it definitely isn’t his supporting cast or coach’s fault. 

    I think right now is an interesting time in basketball where the best players in the world each have pretty glaring holes in their game, situation, or how they’re perceived so it’s hard to king one without backlash.

     

     

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    • #1133429
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      OhCanada-
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       Very good post but Hardens defence this year was great for a guy scoring 40 ppg.

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      • #1133430
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        JDB12
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         I mean averaging 36ppg like Harden did this year is impressive, but his defense still wasn’t good. Kobe was first team all-defense the year he averaged 35. Jordan was DPOY averaging 33ppg and was first team all-defense averaging 35 ppg… I think it just goes to show no matter how good we think Harden is right now, he still isn’t any better than Kobe or Jordan were offensively, and is a much worse defender. He can’t even be mentioned in the same conversation as those two all-time… maybe eventually, but not even close as of now…

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        • #1133432
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          Agreed, Harden shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence as them. The greatest players have always been two-way players. Scorers that could also guard the other teams best player any night. That was Jordan & Kobe. That was also Garnett, Duncan, LeBron, Russell, Olajuwon, etc. the list goes on. Guys like Harden & Curry may be some of the best shooters of all time, but they can’t guard $hit. The NBA now days is all about offense and two-way players are dying out. I will always pick someone like Kawhi or Giannis over Harden because they play on both ends.

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          • #1133487
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             I agree and disagree. I don’t think you can put Harden and Curry in the same defensive category because Harden a lot of the time puts no effort in. Curry might not be a great on-ball defender, but he plays team defense well, knowing where and when to be and that’s why he’s usually towards the top in steals per game (excluding this season). I’m not saying Curry should be on an all-defensive team, but I don’t think he’s the liability Harden often is. 

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  • #1133433
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    cohenbc1
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     It really depends on what time frame you take into consideration. For example, Kawhi clearly outplayed Giannis in the Eastern finals, but Giannis had a better season, IMO. I would say the same about Steph vs. Dame. 

    I guess I would say that there’s a "Big 7" in the NBA — 7 guys who, over a stretch of games, are more than capable of being the best player on the floor. Those guys (in no particular order) are Curry, Harden, Lillard, Kawhi, Durant, Freak, Jokic. 

    As soon as LeBron is on a relevant team again, I expect him to join this group. But you can’t be in that group when the games you play in don’t matter.

    I can’t believe at least three of you above still think Westbrook is better than PG13. Even Westbrook doesn’t think that.

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  • #1133436
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    CU.LIONS
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     Anyone picking Ben Simmons top 20 must not watch playoff basketball. His lack of any kind of shooting, not just from 3 but mid range as well is a half court disaster in the playoffs. 

    If you can’t play half court well in the playoffs, you can’t be top 20 IMO.

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    • #1133439
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       They use him wrong! Bad pairings all around. Like he might be a top 20 talent and might be a top 20 player if used the right way.

      Like put him on the Celtics without Irving, make him a point forward that works on the box. With Embiid he does very little of that and it’s a shame.

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  • #1133440
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    Scrooge McDuck
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    1. Curry
    2. Davis
    3. Embiid
    4. Leonard 
    5. Giannis
    6. Lillard
    7. Draymond
    8. Porzingis
    9. Jokic
    10. Beal
    11. Westbrook
    12. Gobert
    13. Middleton
    14. Griffin
    15. Thompson
    16. Kemba
    17. D Mitchell

    I realize this is unpopular, but given the drama some of the other players create. This would be my list.

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    • #1133446
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      frogman
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       This isn’t unpopular, it’s beyond stupid.

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      • #1133459
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        Scrooge McDuck
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         Any thoughts on why? Or are you a bot?

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        • #1133500
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          celtics1982
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           You talk about drama, yet your crazy high on Davis and Leonard? Two guys that caused a ton of drama. Then there’s Davis your #2 only making the playoffs twice in seven years!

          How is Green way higher than Thompson also?

           

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        • #1133505
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          frogman
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           Don’t know why I’m bothering to reply but not having Lebron and Durant on your list obviously invalidates it.

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  • #1133442
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    The Goat
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    The finals will be KD vs Kawhi for #1 

    3 Lebron 

    4 Curry

    5 Giannis 

    6 AD

    7 Harden

    8 Embiid

    9 George 

    10 Jokic

     

     

     

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  • #1133444
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    The Goat
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    11 Klay

    12- 14 Kyrie, Dame, Russ

    15 Boogie

    16 KAT

    17 Horford

    18 Griffin

    19 Doncic

    20 Draymond

    21 Aldridge

    22 Gobert

    23 Beal

    24 Simmons

    25 Kemba

     

     

     

     

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  • #1133447
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    Mkadoza
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     1. Lebron (first year he gets injuries, gotta see more regression before hes not #1

    2. KD

    3. Kawhi

    4. Giannis

    5. Anthony Davis

    6. Curry

    7. George

    8. Harden

    9. Lillard

    10. Kyrie

    11. Jokic

    12. Klay

    13. Embiid

    14. Westbrook

    15. Butler

    16. Gobert

    17. Griffin

    18. Towns

    19. Draymond

    20. Kemba

    21. Aldridge

    22. Beal

    23. Oladipo

    24. Doncic

    25. Simmons

    26. Horford

    27. Gallinari

    28. Bledsoe

    29. Middleton

    30. Siakam

    Lot of room for debate. You could put the top 6 in any order and I probably wouldnt disagree. Theyre that close IMO.

     

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    • #1133448
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      Mkadoza
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       Healthy Porzingis would fall in the 20 to 25 range, healthy Cousins (which I doubt well ever see again) 14 to 20

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    • #1133499
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      tblazer_NZ
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      DeRozan is at minimum better than 4 of the players on your list.

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      • #1133503
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        Mkadoza
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        I dont know. Derozan seems to be a usage product. I’ll put it like this, is he better than Booker and McCollum? because this is the tier we’re talking about. 

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  • #1133449
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    Blackhole1374
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     Is this for who is the best player throughout this season like who I would I think could be the best player at any certain time? Bcuz Lebron wasn’t really consistent with his effort on the defensive end but if that doesn’t count then he’s definitely still a top pick.

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  • #1133453
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    2quick4u
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    1. Steph Curry

    2. Kawhi

    3. Giannis

    4. KD

    5. Harden

    6. Lebron

    7. Jokic

    8. Kyrie

    9. Lillard

    10. Embiid

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  • #1133463
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    sweaterflex
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    This is from the perspective of team building, not from highest combined skill level (like a 2K rating per se).

    1. Curry

    2. Kawhi

    3. LeBron

    4. KD

    5. Harden

    6. Giannis

    7. AD

    8. Embiid

    9. Jokic

    10. Lillard

    11. KAT

    12. PG3

    13. Kyrie

    14. Gobert

    15. Butler

    16. Westbrook

    17. Luka

    18. Griffin

    19. Draymond

    20. Beal

    21. Dipo

    22. Simmons

    23. Kemba

    24. Klay

    25. Horford

    26. Aldridge

    27. Siakam

    28. Lowry

    29. Mitchell

    30. Middleton

    Zion could be around 30th during his rookie year tbh. 

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  • #1133465
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    Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers
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     Even though he may not even even be the most valuable player on his own team right now (which is absolutely crazy to say) I would have to believe a healthy KD is the best player in the world at this particular time. He has virtually no exploitable weaknesses in his game. Don’t think you can say that about any other player right now. 

    I’m not going to do a whole list but kawhi, curry, lebron and harden round out my top 5. I feel like Giannis showed in the playoffs that there are still too many holes in his game to be in that category. He’s knocking on the door with AD, embiid, jokic, and dame. 

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  • #1133514
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    Thefabulousjq
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    1. Kawhi

    2. Durant

    3. LeBron

    4. Curry

    5. Giannis

    6. AD

    7. Harden

    8. PG13

    9. Lillard

    10. Embiid

    11. Jokic

    12. Kyrie

    13. Klay

    14. Butler

    15. Gobert

    16. Westbrook

    17. Towns

    18. Kemba

    19. Beal

    20. Oladipo

    21. Griffin

    22. Draymond

    23. Simmons

    24. Doncic

    25. Middleton

    26. Siakam

    27. CJ McCollum

    28. Porzingis

    29. CP3

    30. J. Murray

     

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  • #1133527
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    OhCanada-
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     You guys know Lowry is still a better player than Siakam right?

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