[Lotto StudParticipant]

http://www.indystar.com/article/20110311/SPORTS04/110311038/1062/SPORTS04/Barbosa-scores-season-high-29-Raptors-beat-Pacers-

"If I was on him, I would have took his head off and I would have been suspended for a game for a flagrant foul," Danny Granger fumed. "Stuff like that will sit in the back of your head the next time we play Toronto. We don’t play them again but if I was on him, I would have taken his neck off."

Talking about Barbosa not running out the clock.

[torontoraptors10Participant]

I was just going to post this!

http://video.thescore.com/watch/pacers-vs-raptors-post-game

Here is the clip from the incident. Do you think what Barbosa did was kind of cheap or was Danny Granger over-reacting?

[Lotto StudParticipant]

Both…….Granger is talking out the side of his neck & Barbosa is acting off of revenge.

[ucla86Participant]

Danny Granger is one of the softest cats in the NBA! Why is he talking like he is scarface in the clip ? Unreal~

[OhCanada-Participant]

Grangers actaully one of the toughest players playing on one of the softest teams, soft enviroments usually alter a players performance. Granger plays through plenty of injuries, never backs down from "tough guys", and voices his opinion often. I like him although this time he is wrong. I remember Indiana took a shot in the same scenerio and Jay Triano tried calling a timeout to extend the game after that poor sportsmanship. This time Barbosa gave them a dose of their own medicine and Granger cried about it. I will say thou, he says he would have taken Barbosa’s head off, but Barbosa was right in his face after the shot, so what happened at that time. I really dont like the new trend in the NBA that seems to be taking trash through the media, doesnt matter who does it from Charlie V and Keving Garnett, Kevin Durant, and Chris Bosh, or Barbosa and Granger. Thats a real b!tch move.

[ucla86Participant]

Great post, I totally agree with you about this whole new trend about guys being "tough guys" via the media..Very very well said.

 

Except what do you base your statement on, that Granger is one of the toughest guys in the NBA? Honestly, I think that statement has little to no truth to it..   To me a tough guy is somebody who your scared to rebound against, somebody who your scared to have cover you defensively, somebody who your scared to dive on the ground to fight for a loose ball… And to me, that guy is NOT Danny Granger..

 

Honestly, I think Danny Granger is a top 5 most over-rated players in the NBA.  He shoots a low percentage, he has never smelled the playoffs, he is just an average defender, and his basketball I.Q is not THAT great.  The last 3 full Indiana games I watched, I though he forced a lot of dumb shots, barely passed the rock, and just made many overall "bad" basketball plays..  Just my thoughts.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

He never says anything in the media. KG always lets u know in your face

[Lotto StudParticipant]

He is referring to Charlie in that scenario

[OhCanada-Participant]

Yah I was refferring to how Villanueva basically whined to the media and exposed Garnetts on court comments. These are things that do not happen in other sports…In hockey some stories that my friend have told me go on are unbelievable, things you wouldnt have heard come out of Richard Priors mouth get thrown around when these guys are trash talking, including racial slurs, mothers, girlfriends. In Football threats, intimidation, and trash talking is an essential part of the game.  You dont see players complain about other players after the game, it is all left on the field, and if they do say something after the game they are subtle as to not expose the other player. Why is it okay in Basketball?

[llperez]

i dont like media trash talking either, but you cant really compart the nba and nhl becasue they allow fighting in nhl and there is no real penalty where nba players cant do anything without paying huge bucks. I was watching one of those behind the scenes nhl reality shows where they follow around the capitals and penguins from earlier this season, and the refs actually tell the players during fights not to stop, it was caught on camera and my friends who watch hockey tell me the refs encourage fights all the time and dont try and hide it, its how the game stays clean since guys wont act dirty if they know they are gonna get their ass kicked.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Yeah I was actaully thinking about the fact tha both of those sports are naturally physical, but still cant be actin like a punk and saying sh!t like you wouldve taken his head off. Thats dumb as hell and validates my first impression on the whole latest Lance Stephenson situation. If GRanger is capable of saying something stupid like that to Barbosa…lol its Barbosa, I wonder what he couldve done to piss off Lance.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Honestly, I think that statement has little to no truth to it.. To me a tough guy is somebody who your scared to rebound against, somebody who your scared to have cover you defensively, somebody who your scared to dive on the ground to fight for a loose ball… And to me, that guy is NOT Danny Granger..

Those do play a huge role in being a tough guy but thats not how I veiwed Granger as one, but with other qaulities I do. The ones you listed are intimidation not toughness. Toughness is being able to withstand, and being durable. Danny is tough with the definition of tough. Someone you know is not going to back down, you know is always going to be a tough matchup, some one you know will not be intimidated, that guy who is probally injured but doesnt make a big deal about it because he is actaully tough. Not tough in an intimidating way youre right.

[ucla86Participant]

I think the qualities that I mentioned are what defines a tough basketball player. The only part of your argument that really has merit, is that Granger has not missed many games due to injury over the first 5-6 years of his career. In Danny Granger’s psyche evaluation of his ownself he might not back down from anybody, or be scared to guard anybody in the league. However, if I am an NBA player and Danny Granger is guarding me, I am not really scared or intimidated to be playing againist him..Just my opinion. 

 

From the games I’ve watched, I think Granger gets beat off the dribble by a lot of small forwards, and reaches in on defense a lot, instead of relying on his feet. Also, I think he is to weak to guard guys down low, the rare times Indy loses small line ups.

[OhCanada-Participant]

I agree with that 100 percent. In the Toronto game Calderon blew by Collison down the stretch and Granger shouldve stepped in for the charge but didnt. I was thinking "Why did you just reach, put your body in the way". Collison sorta gave him a dirty look to lol. He is not a tough guy to the point where he gives players a good intimidation, but he is a very durable guy who can rely on staying blue callar, and non premadonna.

[kobyzParticipant]

so Barbosa did what he did, why to make that somthing such offended? it’s nothing, why to make it a big deal?

it’s absurd to get offended for that, it’s to be fake!

[ucla86Participant]

Darren Collison is my all time favorite basketball player. It does not surprise me that Collison (or any other UCLA product) would give Danny Granger a dirty look for being a baby about taking a charge, especially against a guy like Jose Calderon lol !

[iguapops420Participant]

 I’d be pissed too. Bosa has been in the game long enough to know you just dribble the clock out. But Danny needs to back his  talk up with on court action.

[ucla86Participant]

If he you actually watch replays of the clips, Barbosa gets right in Grangers face and he literally just stands there and takes it like a baby..   AND THAN… fifteen minutes later when Granger is hidden in the locker room he runs his mouth… What a Bitch!

[flyboyParticipant]

Stop with all of this "tough guy" and "not a tough guy" BS and the keyboard warrior posturing and just watch basketball. Really. This isn’t a strongman competition. And as for Danny, if he has something to say to Barbosa, do it on the court or don’t do it.

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