‘Should have stayed’ thread

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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 12:03pm #51783

DolanCare
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Who’s that player that you just wished stay in school instead of declaring? Whether you think they needed just one more year in the NCAA, or the full four.
There’s so many prospects that came out too soon, but the one that sticks in my mind is Quincy Miller. He had a solid freshman season, but still had so much to prove and work on. What are some other ones?
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 12:07pm #833039

kazam
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Darius Washington from Memphis a few years ago
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 12:07pm #832932

kazam
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Darius Washington from Memphis a few years ago
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 12:26pm #833047

BenchWarmer
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Hassan Whiteside and Tony Wroten.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 12:26pm #832941

BenchWarmer
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Hassan Whiteside and Tony Wroten.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 12:32pm #833051

agentoaktree
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knuckleheads like josiah turner, or people with families like deangelo casto, the list of players that might have squeezed on to a roster if they stayed is almost infinite
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 12:32pm #832945

agentoaktree
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knuckleheads like josiah turner, or people with families like deangelo casto, the list of players that might have squeezed on to a roster if they stayed is almost infinite
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 12:39pm #833057

JoeWolf1
Tiny Gallon – actually had some NBA skills, such as being a very good ball handler for a big guy, and nice touch on his jumper, but refused to get in shape and bolted after one solid season at OU. Probably could have found himself on a roster if he played until his JR year. It’s a lot harder to make it back up when you start in the D-League than it is to stay on a roster when you come into the league ready to play.
I think he’s eaten himself out of professional basketball.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 12:39pm #832951

JoeWolf1
Tiny Gallon – actually had some NBA skills, such as being a very good ball handler for a big guy, and nice touch on his jumper, but refused to get in shape and bolted after one solid season at OU. Probably could have found himself on a roster if he played until his JR year. It’s a lot harder to make it back up when you start in the D-League than it is to stay on a roster when you come into the league ready to play.
I think he’s eaten himself out of professional basketball.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 12:40pm #833053

Toronto16
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Myck Kabongo, Dajuan Wagner, Marvin Williams.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 12:40pm #832947

Toronto16
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Myck Kabongo, Dajuan Wagner, Marvin Williams.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 1:23pm #833071

GlenTaylorSucks
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Adonis Thomas, Daniel Orton, Josh Selby
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 1:23pm #832964

GlenTaylorSucks
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Adonis Thomas, Daniel Orton, Josh Selby
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 1:40pm #833075

Jordo
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I didn’t think Austin Rivers was ready.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 1:40pm #832968

Jordo
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I didn’t think Austin Rivers was ready.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 1:47pm #833081

TheMOSTHATEDone
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Came too green and jumping, just jumping.
Also, i dont know what happened with the ultra fat and talented Renardo Sidney, saw him on a D-league roster, did he ate himself like Tiny Gallon?
What a physical waste, i wish i could have had their measures and athletic ability, i would be playing in the league right now. damn
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 1:47pm #832974

TheMOSTHATEDone
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Came too green and jumping, just jumping.
Also, i dont know what happened with the ultra fat and talented Renardo Sidney, saw him on a D-league roster, did he ate himself like Tiny Gallon?
What a physical waste, i wish i could have had their measures and athletic ability, i would be playing in the league right now. damn
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 2:02pm #833085

McDunkin
Ndudi Ebi
BJ Mullens

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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 2:02pm #832978

McDunkin
Ndudi Ebi
BJ Mullens

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- Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 3:44pm #833119
  
  GlenTaylorSucks
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  Ebi…don’t even remind me. The one first rounder we get in that 5 years…and it’s Ebi. Wtf. lmao
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 3:44pm #833012
  
  GlenTaylorSucks
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  Ebi…don’t even remind me. The one first rounder we get in that 5 years…and it’s Ebi. Wtf. lmao
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 2:17pm #833087

TarHeelRaven
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From a financial standpoint, James Mcadoo has lost a TON of money by staying at UNC this long. He was a top five draft pick after the 2011-2012 season when he had a solid NCAA tournament after Henson went down with the wrist injury. Last year Mcadoo put up solid 14 and 7 numbers but was a turnover machine, shot in the 50’s at the line and had no post moves. From what I’ve read, it seems like Mac has finally realized that he has to put in work to be a star and has been going at it hard this summer. With a strong junior campaign, he could move up significantly from where he is on draft boards now, but his draft stock will never be as high as it was after his freshman season.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 2:17pm #832980

TarHeelRaven
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From a financial standpoint, James Mcadoo has lost a TON of money by staying at UNC this long. He was a top five draft pick after the 2011-2012 season when he had a solid NCAA tournament after Henson went down with the wrist injury. Last year Mcadoo put up solid 14 and 7 numbers but was a turnover machine, shot in the 50’s at the line and had no post moves. From what I’ve read, it seems like Mac has finally realized that he has to put in work to be a star and has been going at it hard this summer. With a strong junior campaign, he could move up significantly from where he is on draft boards now, but his draft stock will never be as high as it was after his freshman season.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 2:47pm #833101
  
  Lotto Stud
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  Hindsight is 20/20 my friend. I hate when people think a player should make the leap after 1 season just because they are a high profile prospect, even if he would’ve left early and performed poorly we would be hearing folks say he should’ve stayed another year.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 2:47pm #832994
  
  Lotto Stud
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  Hindsight is 20/20 my friend. I hate when people think a player should make the leap after 1 season just because they are a high profile prospect, even if he would’ve left early and performed poorly we would be hearing folks say he should’ve stayed another year.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 3:04pm #833103

bigheavy
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Marquis Teague
Quincy Miller
Tobias Harris
Brandon Knight
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 3:04pm #832996

bigheavy
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Marquis Teague
Quincy Miller
Tobias Harris
Brandon Knight
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 3:46pm #833123
  
  GlenTaylorSucks
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  Harris is basically the reason why I won my fantasy league. He straight-up balled for the last couple of months of the season. Milwaukee was dumb as hell for giving him up so quickly
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 3:46pm #833016
  
  GlenTaylorSucks
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  Harris is basically the reason why I won my fantasy league. He straight-up balled for the last couple of months of the season. Milwaukee was dumb as hell for giving him up so quickly
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 3:53pm #833129
  
  jmarg25
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  I think Tobias Harris is doing fine. I don’t think it would have hurt to stay one more year, but the path he chose is working out very well. He averaged 17 and 8 in 27 games with Orlando.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 3:53pm #833022
  
  jmarg25
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  I think Tobias Harris is doing fine. I don’t think it would have hurt to stay one more year, but the path he chose is working out very well. He averaged 17 and 8 in 27 games with Orlando.
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  - Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 9:14pm #833076
    
    bigheavy
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    If that trade never happens Tobias Harris is stuck in Milwaukee getting no playing time because they never really gave him a shot and didn’t look like they were going to even though they really could have used him. The move to Orlando is just what he needed. I put him on the list because of what almost happened to his career.
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  - Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 9:14pm #833184
    
    bigheavy
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    If that trade never happens Tobias Harris is stuck in Milwaukee getting no playing time because they never really gave him a shot and didn’t look like they were going to even though they really could have used him. The move to Orlando is just what he needed. I put him on the list because of what almost happened to his career.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 7:50pm #833068
  
  OneAndDone
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  It would have been hard for Knight to stick around and share PG duties with Teague although im sure he would have liked to have won the whole thing instead of bowing out in the final four. Teague certainly could have used another year of seasoning. Rumors had been out there that Ryan Harrow had gotten the best of him in practices all year and would have taken some playing time away from him once he became eligible but Harrow certainly proved those rumors false this past season. I think with Teague staying in Lexington the Cats would have maybe made the sweet 16 and Teague possibly getting drafted as high as Philadelphia at 11.
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  - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 3:30am #833106
    
    JoeWolf1
    Teague might just have the last laugh. He’s had an excellent summer league and is currently the Bull’s 2nd string point guard. I suspect a big 2nd season jump from Teague and even if he is backing up Rose, he’s getting his first experience on a contender and playing for a great coach. He very well could be signed for a starting position after his rookie contract. That may seem like a big jump, but Thibs and the Bulls seems to have confidence in him. There aren’t a ton of PG’s left on the FA market and they let Nate go.
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    - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 9:49am #833169
      
      fastdan
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      Hinrich will see all backup PG minutes. I doubt Teague sees the floor much this year, barring injuries.
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    - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 9:49am #833275
      
      fastdan
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      Hinrich will see all backup PG minutes. I doubt Teague sees the floor much this year, barring injuries.
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  - Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 3:30am #833213
    
    JoeWolf1
    Teague might just have the last laugh. He’s had an excellent summer league and is currently the Bull’s 2nd string point guard. I suspect a big 2nd season jump from Teague and even if he is backing up Rose, he’s getting his first experience on a contender and playing for a great coach. He very well could be signed for a starting position after his rookie contract. That may seem like a big jump, but Thibs and the Bulls seems to have confidence in him. There aren’t a ton of PG’s left on the FA market and they let Nate go.
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- Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 7:50pm #833176
  
  OneAndDone
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  It would have been hard for Knight to stick around and share PG duties with Teague although im sure he would have liked to have won the whole thing instead of bowing out in the final four. Teague certainly could have used another year of seasoning. Rumors had been out there that Ryan Harrow had gotten the best of him in practices all year and would have taken some playing time away from him once he became eligible but Harrow certainly proved those rumors false this past season. I think with Teague staying in Lexington the Cats would have maybe made the sweet 16 and Teague possibly getting drafted as high as Philadelphia at 11.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 3:46pm #833127

BasketballJunkie224
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to the guy who said marvin williams..he was the #2 pick in the draft. and ndudi ebi? he went straight from high school..i guess i agree that he shouldve went to school but he never made it to arizona’s campus to begin with….same case for travis outlaw….i think that leon powe shouldve stayed maybe another year @ cal
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 3:46pm #833020

BasketballJunkie224
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to the guy who said marvin williams..he was the #2 pick in the draft. and ndudi ebi? he went straight from high school..i guess i agree that he shouldve went to school but he never made it to arizona’s campus to begin with….same case for travis outlaw….i think that leon powe shouldve stayed maybe another year @ cal
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 4:06pm #833030

Lipstick
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Not so bold prediction: this list could get very, very long.
It’s hard to blame first round locks for leaving early with the enormous amount of guaranteed money that comes with it, but I’ll throw in Elliot Williams. Really thought he would’ve been a quality rotation player at the least. He still has plenty of time, but I was sure he would’ve been better by now.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 4:06pm #833137

Lipstick
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Not so bold prediction: this list could get very, very long.
It’s hard to blame first round locks for leaving early with the enormous amount of guaranteed money that comes with it, but I’ll throw in Elliot Williams. Really thought he would’ve been a quality rotation player at the least. He still has plenty of time, but I was sure he would’ve been better by now.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 4:38pm #833042

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I know Jeremy Tyler never made it to college but I wish he would have stayed in America and played at Louisville. He was a great athlete and had a strong offensive game (30+ ppg his jr year I think.) The biggest thing for him would have been practicing against samardo samuels and terrence jennings every day and having the opportunity to be one of the go to guy for the Cards. I believe his development would have been much different had he been with Louisville rather than a 17/18 year old kid with attitude problems trying to make it in Israel and Japan. Definitely a guy who pops into mind when thinking who should have stayed.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 4:38pm #833149

koty
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I know Jeremy Tyler never made it to college but I wish he would have stayed in America and played at Louisville. He was a great athlete and had a strong offensive game (30+ ppg his jr year I think.) The biggest thing for him would have been practicing against samardo samuels and terrence jennings every day and having the opportunity to be one of the go to guy for the Cards. I believe his development would have been much different had he been with Louisville rather than a 17/18 year old kid with attitude problems trying to make it in Israel and Japan. Definitely a guy who pops into mind when thinking who should have stayed.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 7:38pm #833066

Forte IV
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Definitely Tony Wroten. It’s my firm belief he could have been the first PG taken had he stayed for a second year. He would have been the man at Washington had he stayed.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 7:38pm #833174

Forte IV
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Definitely Tony Wroten. It’s my firm belief he could have been the first PG taken had he stayed for a second year. He would have been the man at Washington had he stayed.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 8:39pm #833074

psam24
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Tyler Honeycutt, Tommy Mason-Griffin, Courtney Fortson, Josh Selby, there are alot of names for this topic.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/12/2013 - 8:39pm #833182

psam24
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Tyler Honeycutt, Tommy Mason-Griffin, Courtney Fortson, Josh Selby, there are alot of names for this topic.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 12:30am #833090

Jr. ROXAS
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Jereme Richmond.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 12:30am #833197

Jr. ROXAS
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Jereme Richmond.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 9:58am #833280

fastdan
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It seems like one and dones who didn’t go in the lottery have an extremely high bust potential. It’s the players who don’t have bad teams who will give them floor time and develop them just don’t ever get the opportunity to develop.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 9:58am #833175

fastdan
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It seems like one and dones who didn’t go in the lottery have an extremely high bust potential. It’s the players who don’t have bad teams who will give them floor time and develop them just don’t ever get the opportunity to develop.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 11:06am #833290

baggin13
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Xavier Henry
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Posted on: Tue, 08/13/2013 - 11:06am #833185

baggin13
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Xavier Henry
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