[ZouldiersParticipant]

 HOU gets: Brandon Knight and Marquese Chriss

 PHX gets: Ryan Anderson and Deanthony Melton

This came out of nowhere but the Rockets have done it. They get a young forward in Chriss who can play 4 or 5 and is also athletic as well and Knight, when healthy could be a solid backup to CP3. Not sure why the Suns do it though but I guess Okobo will start for them??? 

Thoughts?

 

 

 

[Striver347Participant]

 It seems to be the case that Davon Reed and Shaquille Harrison will be logging minutes at the 1 also, since, they did it so often in summer league. The league is switching to rangy switchable wings who can create plays, and this falls in like with that thread.

 

More importantly, what a haul for Houston. They absolutely fleeced Phoenix. I’m convinced Phoenix did it for a salary dump. Houston, on the other hand, gets a young talent in Chriss, who I imagine will improve tremendously playing with playmaking guards like Harden and Paul. I can see the lobs and open threes Chriss becomes privy to, and his ability to knock them down consistently will allow Houston’s offense to run smoothly. I’m not sure how he’ll fare defensively, especially against the better big men of the west. Then, you factor in Brandon Knight who I believe is the most forgotten player in the league. I think in a bench role he has greater value than running the team in the beginning of the ball game. He certainly strikes me as a player with Jason Terry level potential and I think Houston is all the better for it. Not so sure what the defensive metrics read for Knight though I think Houston essentially got rid of players who did absolutely nothing for them last season for two valuable pieces.

 

Not sure Houston’s roster is much improved from the 2018 season considering the loss of Ariza and Mbah a Moute. Still, Houston has room for improvement, and I think Chriss and Knight can play large roles into that.

 

 

 

 

[BleedGreen808Participant]

I really like the opportunity De’Anthony Melton will get by being on the Suns.  His role on the Rockets would have been unclear but with the Suns he’ll likely get plenty of playing time.  They already have their core players in Booker, Ayton, and possibly Josh Jackson so maybe Melton can be a complimentary piece to them.  

[RUDEBOY-Participant]

 Rockets definitely wins this trade . Besides getting rid of Anderson’s 40 Million for the next 2 yrs. they get a backup pg in Knight that can start if CP3 gets injured. They trade Anderson without giving away a 1st rounder. Maybe a change of scenery is what Chris’s needs. And they’ve gotten rid of a lot of older players . Melo is the only guy over 30 they’ve added this offseason. The Suns still have questions at pg. But they’ll 2 deep at every other position.

[cohenbc1Participant]

 Brandon Knight will be a useful guy to have around if CP3 gets injured again. If the Big 3 in the Rockets’ backcourt are all healthy I don’t think Knight will get regular rotation minutes at all. Chriss will compete with that skinny Chinese guy to see who sits at the end of the bench and who plays in the Rio Grande Valley.

Is Iso Joe coming back, I wonder? They need more wings. Who on the Rockets guards LeBron and Durant? Gerald Green? Ennis? Harden?

 

[ZouldiersParticipant]

 BTW, where’s that S.O.B. that called me a terrible GM back a few years ago when we did a mock draft because I’m sure as hell won’t do this lopsided trade. 

[Reptilian MonkParticipant]

 Agree with most here Rockets win this trade, Suns may have given up on Chriss to early and gave up a solid back up point for Andersons high contract and a prospect.

[sweaterflexParticipant]

A rare double salary dump, but the end result is unclear. The Rockets clearly didn’t want to package a first rounder to get rid of Anderson, but I think I’ll like Melton more than whoever they could draft at ~29 next year. Knight never played defense in the first place and will be lucky to come back at 85% after his injuries. Chriss also doesn’t play defense or rebound, but he’s worth a shot. The Rockets now have three positive defenders on the entire team (Paul, Capela, Tucker). Maybe they can offload Knight later for a defense first guy around the trade deadline (MKG?). Phoenix should just start Booker at the 1 at this point and switch everything.

[festar35Participant]

I feel like the Suns would benefit from getting a guy like Patrick Beverley or Corey Joseph next to Booker. A defence first guard who can create a little offense, but doesn’t need the ball all the time to be successful and can shoot the 3-ball at a reasonable rate.
Both those guys are on expiring deals, so could just be a bit of a rental.

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 This is a weird deal, especially for Phoenix. For them to take on Anderson’s contract without getting a first round pick back is puzzling to say the least. They also traded the only pg on their roster with any experience and a recent lottery pick for a second rounder. They must really see something in Melton. It’s just hard for me to see the direction here. 

I guess you can say Houston wins because they dump Anderson’s contract, but I’m not sure this trade actually makes them better this season. Knight could be an insurance policy in case one of their main backcourt guys gets injured, but he’s a poor defender who might not figure into their regular rotation much. Chriss is still all upside at this point. He’s a great athlete for sure but hasn’t really shown much of an actual skill set or iq that would make you comfortable playing him important mins. Maybe Houston could unlock something in him that Phoenix couldn’t. Melton might not have helped them much this year but he seems like he might have been worth holding onto. Even getting rid of Anderson, they definitely don’t get better defensively with this deal.

 

[True_JafiParticipant]

 I like what the sunds did here. Getting Anderson will free up so much space for Ayton to work. Having Chriss next to him will clog things. Adding a deep good shooter will make space for everyone (Booker and Ayton). Knight will be CP3 backup barring injury but Knight himself is injury prone as well. And coming off a achilles injury aint help. Suns prolly have been watching him and didnt see much from what they have there now. 

[HobbyOGParticipant]

 Terrible trade for the Suns, this was the best you could get for those players???? 

[timinator1Participant]

I’m intrigued by Chriss, but there’s still the real possiblity that he’s never going to get his head and his game together. It’s a big swing for Houston, and if it works well would be a nice weapon against GSW. But the jury should still be waaay out on this one, from a basketball point of view.

From a business point of view however…shedding the Anderson money is a great move for Houston.

For Phoenix, I like this move a lot. Let’s get Anderson in the four spot, and move JJax back to his more comfortable 3 spot. Yes, they still need a point, but those are more readily available than most other positions. And maybe this clears some space for Bender to grow up a little too.

 

  

[RUDEBOY-Participant]

 Wojo is reporting that Anderson agreed to have his salary reduced from 21 million to 15 to match Knight’s salary. And the Suns can decide if they want to keep him in 2019 for another year. So this trade doesn’t look so bad from the Suns point of view. 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 No idea why he would agree to that, but if it’s true than this trade makes a whole lot more sense for Phoenix.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

The decision makes sense for Anderson. He clearly wants to be in a situation where he’ll see the floor and contribute. 

It’s really not a huge financial risk for him. The Suns would have until 7/10/19 to either guarantee the full $21 million he’s owed or waive him. If they waive him, he pockets $15.6 million and enters free agency next summer.

 

[HitsterParticipant]

As a Suns fan I’m surprised we have given up on Marquese Chriss so early. Len has moved so even with Ayton coming in he’d have seen some playing time. Ryan Anderson gives us a 3 point shooting big who may stretch the floor for Ayton but we have an experienced frontcourter in Tyson Chandler already.

I’m a bit surprised we didn’t look to ship Tyson as well, I know he’ll be a good mentor to Ayton but I feel he deserves to be on a contender and reuniting him with CP3 would have been fun.

Chriss is going into a great set up, he’ll be expected to do a fair bit of the heavy lifting but Harden and CP3 will feed him nice baskets and he’ll get good production and could put himself in the shop window for a big deal in two year’s time.

[KIP BallerParticipant]

 I think this is definitely a good move for Rockets and the biggest winner in Chriss. He has shown flashes of talent and still has potential. Houston is the perfect system for him and I expect him to play a productive backup role to Capela. He needs players to set him up like Paul and Harden so he can focus on being a finisher. He needed a change of scenery badley and this could be the best one for him. Knight will be decent insurance policy for Paul. I’m not sure how excite Knight is because he was looking forward to finally having the reigns to his own team and is now back to a backup, which he was unhappy with before. 

Interesting move for Suns. Anderson is a great fit from an offensive skill standpoint and could be a nice bridge to Bender taking on a bigger role. He gets paid a lot of money but Suns arent concerned about that because they arent a free agent destination for two years in my opinion. Melton looks like a cool prospect but we just drafted Okobo so not sure how valuable he will be. I think there is a chance that one of the two will develop into a starting caliber guard so it will be fun to watch them battle it out for the next few years. I have to imagine the Suns have atleast one more move up their sleeve for a pg who can start this year. If not, it will be another long year with  currently 2 2nd round picks and a d-leaguer as the pg rotation.

 

[RUDEBOY-Participant]

I Wonder will Criss make Amends with Harden? Remember he Tweeted that all Harden did was Shoot & Flop!! Folks Pass Tweets Keep Coming back to Haunt Them!! HaHa!!

[HitsterParticipant]

 As a Suns fan, I’m surprised that we didn’t look to get a solid PG in for this coming season even if it was only on a one year deal. We threw big money at Trevor Ariza to give the team extra experience and another veteran alongside Tyson Chandler. We could have used some of that potentially on a PG, I know we aren’t anywhere near being a play off team but a chance to be creator for some young prospects would surely appeal to some veterans. Guys like Rondo and Tony Parker who like Ariza have titles so don’t need to chase rings as such were on the market.

[GBeeParticipant]

 Oddly enough, to me the most intriguing piece of the deal is Melton. Anderson might be revitalized in a different, low pressure situation. IDK if he’s damaged goods physically, but he was a productive, semi-valuable player recently. Yes, he’s a salary dump, but so is Knight. At their best, I’d say Anderson is the more valuable player, especially given his fit next to Ayton. With Booker, Ariza and Anderson on the floor with him, Ayton will almost be forced to learn to play with good spacing. Chriss was entirely expendable. Quite frankly, I think he’s garbage who’s shown very little improvement and one of the lowest IQs in the league. To me he’s just a thrown in who’s option will likely be declined. Yes, he was a lotto pick but he’s played his way into having less value and intrigue compared to Melton who’s the big, defensive, switchable, low usage combo guard that the Suns could really use. The Rockets saved money which they needed to do, but in terms of personnel, I like what the Suns got back more.

[r377Participant]

 A real head scratcher to me for the Suns.

I thought they were more keen on Chriss than they were Bender ?

they just signed ariza to a 1 year $15 mill contract. Why ? They are not going to compete for a ring.

As for Chriss I am sure they could of got at least a lotto protected first rounder for him from some team…

 

 

 

[natevalParticipant]

 When can Melton be traded again? Rozier is going to price himself out of Boston. Maybe Melton and the Bucks pick for Rozier.

 

 

[RUDEBOY-Participant]

 I’ll be Shocked if Ainge trades Rozier this season without getting a commitment from Kyrie that he’s staying.

[HitsterParticipant]

Bender was always going to be a long term prospect and was possibly seen as a future C whilst Chriss was a more NBA ready PF.

[BallerScriptParticipant]

 I wouldn’t say Chriss is NBA ready
But in comparison to Bender you could say he is more developed.

 

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