[i’m jus so offendedParticipant]

So as you can see the headline at the top right of the homepage "Derrick Williams insists "I am a small forward". Do you really now? So if the team that drafts you says "Derrick we’re going to start you at the 4", what is he about to say? Is he going to pull an Eli Manning and demand a trade? Is he going to retire? Kid sounds real cocky and uncoachable right now. I’m friends with this girl from St. Louis who goes to University of Arizona who dated him as a freshman and she said he was a douche and cheated on her all the time…I still think he’s a great talent but shouldn’t he be willing to do whatever the team needs from him rather than telling them where they should play him?

[ghettosermonParticipant]

Well if you think about it the top 5 picks of the draft are all teams who have PF’s but need SF’s.

[The8thDeadlySinParticipant]

Well since he cheated on his GF, he shouldnt be a lottery pick, much less the number 1..

 

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

 He’s never played the small forward at any level of his career.  I know kids who played with him in high school and AAU ball and they said he never stood out as a great player till he started to come into his own his senior year of high school.  This is why he was only a 3 star prospect.  I see him every day at the LMU rec center working out and doing drills and I over hear him talking all the time and I’ve overheard him talking about playing the wing.  He’s had a good amount of success in such a short period of time and went from lightly recruited to possibly the number one pick in the NBA draft within two years and comes off as cocky at times and I can’t fault him for that.  I think he can play the 3 or 4.  He’s a mismatch at either position so he should just keep emphasizing that. 

[edot4483Participant]

I think you are wrong about him being cocky with just that line. The guy knows where he wants to play. Nothing wrong with saying that. Im sure if his future coach told him he will play the 3 & 4 he wont pull a Scottie Pippen and refuse to enter the game. He’s just stating the position he will have the most success at. He will be a good 3 in the L. He showed off his defensive skills in the tourney by blocking 2 potential game winning/tying shots and he has the length to guard just about any 3-4 in the league. Yea dude came outta relatively "nowhere" on most peoples radars from this year but he earned it. His stats got a lot better from freshmen to soph year. He was very productive in his frosh year.  Dude is a hooper, give him credit. He wouldnt be a top 3pick in next years draft but there is almost no risk in drafting this guy. never been injured, never caught a charge. Remember Tyrus thomas was I think 3rd overall in his draft, he came outta nowhere, and is now just a role player. derrick will be a starter in due time if not 1st year. Comparing him to Eli?? I guaranSheed he wont do the steve francis thing on draft day. Eff what that girl from STL says too. She must not have been handling her biz nor did she get the memo about D 1 athletes…They get about any girl they want. And he went to Zona…You ever walked around on that campus?? Or been to AZ?? The girls are real nice out there so while I dont condone cheating on your girl, at least it aint his wife and im sure the mistresses he was gettin it in with were nice. Dont be so critical of one line.

[omphalosParticipant]

He wasn’t sure how he’d measure in at the combine most likely and wanted to assure people he could play the 3 if he didn’t have enough length to play the 4. I have nothing wrong with this, it’s just an assurance he’s giving teams with SF needs that he is their guy.

[NorvniceParticipant]

Any 3 can play the 2,….Derrick williams runs and moves like a Big Man. He has nothing to do with Paul Pierce, Carmelo Anthony, Rudy Gay…etc…it’s all about how you move. He is not a perimeter athlete.Period! A real Basketball mind can clearly see that. This guy played against duke and dunked all over The big white plumlees  and now he’s a future ALL STAR??? He did not creat his own shot..90 percent of his highlights are involving his teammates with a pass, some others are making plays off of rebounds. As well as he played against Duke he didn’t create his own shot or show professional perimeter ball skills(Pierce, Caron Butler, Melo..) that would allow him to survive out there in the league.

College Basketball is bad right now and 95% percent of viewers dont know what to look for in these prospects. People see a dunk and they start to think the world of a player!!! Derrick Williams is an undersized PF that may be able to cause consistent mismatches. Guys like this dont start in the NBA usually, so I wouldn’t rule it out! Williams is similar to Antawn Jamison, Al Harrington, a little Al Thornton. He won’t ever domintate ONE position therefore he’ll likely not take an all star spot from anyone!

 

 

[Scottoant93Participant]

looks like derrick williams is forgetting where he comes from…should fit well with all the egos in the nba

[apb540Participant]

Good points.  I think Derrick Williams is more of a 3 than a 4.  Cross between Thad Young and Blake Griffen.  What ever the in betwen of those two is, is his potential. 

[NorvniceParticipant]

IF hes more of a 3 than a 4 than he should be able to score on the Perimeter. If you can show me any clear evidence of that then I might agree with you. Game tape doesnt lie!! In addition this Guy is 6’8 250!!! I’ll say it again 6’8 250!! Also he’s got nearly 11% Body fat. The only small Forward that size is Lebron and he’s an abiration.

[JimmeredYaWabafetParticipant]

his ultimate potential is Karl Malone, lol look at Malone’s http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/malonka01.html second year in college compared to http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=45854

young Karl Malone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IASPaR9OIGs&feature=related 

[AKOOParticipant]

He is a smart young man that will be the only superstar from this draft. You can tell a superstar because boy does the hate come raining down. Now all of a sudden a guy that only had 3 stars by his name opposed to all the players with 5 is cocky. Now all of a sudden the Morris twins wanna talk about the refs not letting them play him like they wanted to or he would not be doing this or that. The dude has his head on straight, he can be a top 5 SF in the league within 3 years but he will not be a top 5 PF in the NBA anytime soon. Why the heck would he not want to give himself the best chance of superstardom?

[aamir543Participant]

He’s been hanging with Michael Beasley too much. Correct me if I am wrong, butdont Williams and Beasley seem like clones of each other. they are both undersized versatile 3-4, who can shoot the ball, as well as post in the paint. The problem is, they are undersized at the 4. And if Williams cheats on his GFs, I dont even want to hear Kobe’s ex.

[aamir543Participant]

@BitchsmakdYomumbro, look at Larry Bird’s point averages for his final college season, then look at Adam Morrison’s.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/birdla01.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/morriad01.html

[JimmeredYaWabafetParticipant]

 i said his ultimate potential which means far fetched ceiling that could happen if he is a crazy ass gym rat/workout man like Malone

Larry Bird’s stats are way freakin better Morrison he could of been like Wally Szczerbiak if he didnt have the ACL tear

[OhCanada-Participant]

Girls lie alot and talk alot of &$#%#&@!. I wouldnt be surprised if she was just a one night stand, a latcher, a girl he would call up on those late nights or something of that nature. Sounds like Derrick told her what she wanted to hear, got what he wanted from her, then moved on and she didnt.

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

 Beasley and Williams are both at the rec every day and always hang out, Williams has a minimal height advantage that isn’t noticeable unless you really look for it.  

[apb540Participant]

My bad, I actually did mean to say "more of a 4 than a 3."  Just too faded at the time lol 

[kobyzParticipant]

maybe he can be a SF in the mold of James Worthy

[OhCanada-Participant]

Maybe he can lose some body fat, gain some lean muscle and be an athletic 6’8 245 hybrid forward. Whats wrong with that? He is obviously quick enough, strong enough, athletic enough already.

[AKOOParticipant]

Do you guys remember Big Nasty Corliss Williamson? He played mostly SF in the NBA at 6"7 245 and no way you could tell all the naysayers that he would be able to coming out of Arkansas. I think Williams is just what he says he is a SF who can play some PF at the next level

[NorvniceParticipant]

You think hes a SF, but you haven’t seen the skills!!! I don’t get it.

Harrison Barnes is a SF!!! Jordan Hamilton is a SF!! How and the hell is this dude a SF! A SF is basically a big 2 guard. This man didnt go coast to coast once. He belongs below the free throw line and thats where he was operating at Arizona. If He was a SF you would of seen ISOs on the wing. Dribble moves, and step backs. Thats not his game! Arizona knew it and its clear. Lets not make him something that he isn’t. The vast Majority of his point were scored through passes and rebounds, he does not create.

As far as Corliss Williamson…he’s highly forgettable, so if Derrick Williams imulates that then he’ll be considered a bust for a top 5 pick!

Oh yeah for the record Michael Beasley avged 27ppg and 13rebs a game as a freshmen, while Derrick Williams gave you 19 and 8 as SOPHMORE!! How quick are able to forget…B-Easy’s offensive skill set is on another level.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 How did Derrick Williams not create?  He scored very efficiently both in isolation and in the post.  Just look at the numbers if you aren’t going to watch his games.  He was one of college basketball’s most efficient isolation scorers and post scorers by the numbers.

[JNixonParticipant]

I think he’s a tweener. He’s going to be able to score, but to me he seems to be a tweener. I think he’s more of a PF than a SF, but I don’t think he has enough of the qualities of either position to say he certainly is a SF or a PF. In a sense of being able to just score and having the body of a tweener, I think the Beasley comparison has merit. He’s not exactly like Beasley, but there are some characteristics that are comparable. Mostly in their scoring, smooth athleticism, and their tweener bodies.

[AKOOParticipant]

Has averaged 3.1 assists his career while Josh Smith has averaged 3 assists his career, still Josh Smith is considered a tweener while Carmelo is a top 3 SF. Creating is not what seperates a PF from a SF alone, if so Josh is just as much of a SF as Carmelo. I for one think Atlanta needs to move Josh to 3, Al to 4, and get a real Center, but my point is creating alone is not it. No one stat or quality makes one person a SF and the next a PF, its the person and if Derrick Williams says he is a SF, I am willing to give him the benefit of a doubt and let him play SF until he proves he cant effectively, there are many guys his weight that have done it. Corliss Williamson, Jamal Mashburn, Billy Owens, on and on and on man. It’s starting to seem like Norvnice either has a problem with Derrick Williams. By the way, I am and was never a big Beasley guy since you keep throwing him out there, I always thought he was like Chris Gatling, just a guy that could get buckets and nothing else.

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