Re-Evaluating the Anthony Davis trade packages

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Re-Evaluating the Anthony Davis trade packages

I wanted to go over the Anthony Davis trade packages and talk about them now that the draft lottery is shaken out. Awkward that Zion can't be traded for AD now but we've talked about that before. Remember Davis is a one year rental technically though it seems likely he would re-sign given the right situation. I'm only factoring in the 3 teams that have been most frequently mentioned though some others have interesting packages. I'll let you guys figure out the packages but here are the prospects:

Celtics: Tatum, Brown, Smart, Robert Williams, 3 1st round picks this year that could be packaged for a move up.

Knicks: Kevin Knox, DSJ, Mitch Robinson, 3rd over all pick.

Lakers: Brandon Ingram, Kyle Kuzma, Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, 4th over all pick.

So a few things to factor in and think about, lets highlight each team pitfalls and positives.

The Celtics have Tatum whos considered by many of the prize jewel of young NBA future stars as far as available players go. He didn't have a great playoffs show but I doubt it knocks his stock too much. Brown had a sophmore slumber but still shows potential and is a very smart kid. Smart great on D not much else. Robert Williams is project definitely but with good upside. Secondly draft pick value can shake out weirdly. The Celtics three picks shake out on a draft value chart to being worth about the same value as the number two overall pick. Though I highly doubt that Memphis, New York, Los Angeles would want those picks, especially in a top heavy draft, but they might have value in a getting decent role player depth at some of those spots. This package is trending downward slightly but only very slightly and while I think sometimes Tatum is overrated he still has the best value out of any player listed above. Depth to me is the biggest question with the Celtics potential packages and it all shakes down to how much do the Pels value a Tatum/Zion pairing.

The Knicks are the wild card to me and it all comes down to what New Orleans thinks of RJ Barrett. If you think hes an all-star and a future championship number two then it gives the pick a lot of value. If you think hes a high volume shooter and value Tatum and Ingram more hes not your guy. Personally I'd throw his potential somewhere in the same class. Kevin Knox has Kuzma like potential while possibly a better defender. DSJ and Mitch are projects. Mitchell has amazing defensive rim runner potential but needs time that he'd get during a rebuild. DSJ strikes me the same way in that he needs to learn to refine his game on the go, maybe learning behind a smart vet for a bit first though (Holiday fits this). Overall this package seems like the biggest risk by far but possibly with the most upside depending on how you value these players and the confidence in your coaching staff. Besides the point but I like the potential of re-pairing RJ and Zion for player comfortability.

The Lakers boast probably the deepest package out of the three teams listed. Brandon Ingram has clot concerns which really scares me after what happened with Chris Bosh but he looked great when he didn't share the floor with LeBron, arguably may have more upside than Tatum. I honeslty think Kuzma has reached his peak, he might become a slightly better shooter and could make small improvements in other places but the defense might not ever be there. Still at this point hes a very solid player with Tobias Harris like upside. Best young laker now but lowest ceiling other than Hart. Lonzo is the biggest question mark. Does his game fit in today NBA if he can't ever get his shot down? Proved to be a good defender/great passer but the bigger question is will he even play in New Orleans? Hart had a bit of a slump this year but still has good 3&D potential. To me I like the overall quality of the Lakers top 3 prospects best but 2 of 3 have big red flags to me. The final question mark is the 4th pick. This is considered by many a top 3 heavy draft and big drop of after with guys muddled at 4 to 10. I don't think this pick is anywhere near as value as the 3rd unless the Pels fall in love with one of those 4 to 10 guys. If the Pelicans value depth and ignore risk as a rebuilding team in a package though this is their clear winner.

Personally I'm torn I'd be happy developing around either of the three I mean all of these starting lineups look fun

BOS trade: Okafor/Williams/FA, Zion, Tatum, Brown, Holiday

NYK trade: Okafor/Robinson/FA, Zion, Knox, Barrett,/Holiday, Holiday/DSJ

LAL trade: Okafor/FA, Zion, Kuzma\Ingram, Holiday, Ball

Oh the anticipations


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rozier

is it possible to include rozier in a package via sign and trade also? thinking he has value to NOP with holiday playing a lot of SG.

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I didn't even mention him

I didn't even mention him after that ESPN interview because I'm not sure what to expect from him

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What a dumb interview. The

What a dumb interview. The guy is obviously working towards endorsement deals but go earn it. I mean you really think you can go outperform Kyrie then sign to a team that will give you 32 minutes a game and drop your 24 points and 6 assists. Then you talk your shit.

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I'd rather have RJ Barrett,

I'd rather have RJ Barrett, Tatum and Mitchell Robinson over anything the Lakers can offer. I think it comes down to the Knicks and Celtics. One key factor in my opinion is Kyrie Irving's free agency. If he bolts for the Knicks (which Stephen A Smith gives a 95% chance along with Durant fwiw) then are the Celtics really a team that AD is going to want sign long term with especially since they will also be giving up a ton of their young talent to acquire him? Then also is Boston really going to really want to give up Tatum, and many other assets for essentially a rental player?

Let's not forget the Knicks have 7 first round picks in the next 5 years. If NO is set on trading AD then pairing Zion with his college teammate and friend RJ Barrett with the #3 pick (keeping both happy), getting a young stud shot blocker in Mitchell Robinson, along with youngsters Kevin Knox, DSJ, and Frank Ntilkina, plus Dallas' 2021 and 2023 first round picks seems like a pretty good package to rebuild around Zion and Barrett.

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Yo good point on future draft

Yo good point on future draft picks I forgot about how many the Knicks have after the KP trade, I like the Knicks move best regardless but I might be sold after that

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If NO did trade with Lakers and RJB was.BPA

Do you think he cares to continue playing with Zion? He has no choice, but what do you think?

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I don't think so just because

I don't think so just because of the timeline theres still a big age difference and I can't see Davis wanting to come back and re-upp with the Pelicans regardless because of all their mismanagement in the past. Them lucking in to the first over all pick doesn't really seem like that would convince him that they have it together finally.

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Im sorry. If I'm the Knicks,

Im sorry. If I'm the Knicks, the thought of KD, AD and Kyrie is unbelievable. All three are better than anything the Knicks have had since prime Ewing.

BUT, I'm not giving up Mitchell Robinson. You can have Trier, DSJ, Knox, the 3rd pick and both Mavs Picks, but and Mitch are future 10 year starters. Mitch per 36 minutes averaged 14 pts, 12 rebounds, and 4 blks a game. As a rookie. Who didnt play basketball competively for a year. Can you imagine if GS traded Draymond after his rookie year?

No, Mitch is a young Marcus Camby. Im not giving that up.

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Clippers

The Clippers offer of Shamet SGA and nexts years first and that miami unprotected pick is pretty nice too. SGA is up there with tatum in terms center pieces for trades, especially with Zion on the roster giving him a really good young guard to grow with, Shamet also is a nice spot up option to space for him now and going forward.

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Boston's package is ok but

Boston's package is ok but Lakers and Knicks are complete trash. There's plenty more teams that can make offers that I would consider first if was the one pulling to trigger for the Pelicans-

Hawks - Collins, Huerter, #8, #10, future unprotected 1st

Bulls - Carter Jnr, Markannen and #7

Sixers - deal around Simmons or a S & T around Harris

Magic - S & T Vucevic, Fultz, Ross, their first

Griz - Conley and #2 ?

Rockets - Tucker, Capela, Gordon, future first

Thunder - deal around Russ

Clips, Spurs, the list goes on . You can make a package with virtually anyone that's better than the crap NY and LA are offering.

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Crazy thought

Trade AD to Boston for Tatum, Smart and two firsts.

Trade Holiday to Indiana for Evan Tuner

Starting 5:

Turner

Zion

Tatum

Smart

Payton? Pick? Shooter

That is a very good playoff team in two years. Land a pick and a good FA and they are in business.

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I'd say the Knicks have the

I'd say the Knicks have the inside track on this one. Fours years of rookie contract RJ or Morant is quite appealing. Combine that with Knox and Robinson who are about to enter year two and DSJ who is entering year three. There's a good amount of time left on those rookie deals for such high upside players. Gives the Pels a good amount of time to figure out how each player will fit long term before having to consider handing out extensions. Tatum is a fantastic player and all but he only has two years left on his rookie deal and his ceiling is comparable to RJ or Morant. If your the Pels, why fork over the big money sooner rather than later? The rest of Boston's assets are pretty much meh for the most part and all the Lakers pieces lack any potential All-NBA level talent. Also, Davis has said he will not resign with Boston so I imagine they would be reluctant to include Tatum in any deal, especially if Kyrie bolts.

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I think that Boston would be

I think that Boston would be reluctant to give up Tatum in any package if they included Brown, Smart and picks. If Horford opted in then he might be included as he is an expiring deal.

I think that the Knicks would need to include maybe one of the Dallas picks due via Porz trade.

The interesting thing could be the drop off between 3rd and 4th pick as any offer that includes potentially RJ might really interest NOP. Zion and RJ as a duo from day one would be a great rebuilding point.

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The Pelicans will not get

The Pelicans will not get that much for a one year rental, even if he’s the best rental. These unreasonable expectations are going to get David Griffin fired. And he’s pretty good.

The Lakers won’t do Ball, Kuzma, and Ingram and the Celtics won’t do Tatum and Brown. The Celtics might not trade Tatum at all and Ingram’s blood clot is probably fine, but they won’t get market value for him and he could be an all-star this year. Maybe.

I think the options are Ball, Kuzma, #4 or Jaylen Brown, Smart, #14 or Mitchell Robinson, Dennis Smith, Knox, #3. I might take New York here, maybe Los Angeles. However, entertainment-wise, I really like the idea of Zion and Jaylen Brown. Sounds like a lot of fun, lots of dunks, lots of fast breaks.

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I still think New Orleans has

I still think New Orleans has leverage because the teams will be very competitive to get a shot at AD. If we've learned anything from the Lakers and seemingly they have too that standing pat and waiting for free agency isn't a garuntee some team will step up and I think New Orleans is smart to at least wait until the trade deadline for the best possible deal. The Lakers already set the market this season and I'm going to guess the packages are only going to go up not down.

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